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Windows 11 tries to escape Windows 10's shadow with AI muscle

(2024/06/04)


Microsoft is set to launch Copilot+ AI PCs this month, aiming to boost adoption of the little loved Windows 11 operating system.

Statcounter has published its latest [1]market share statistics , showing that the OS could certainly use a shot in the arm years after launch (October 2021).

For May 2024, Windows 11 jumped to 27.67 percent of all Windows PCs from 26.19 percent last month. As for Windows 10? Share dropped from 69.89 percent in April to 68.34 percent. The longer-term trend for Windows 10 is very slightly downward, while for Windows 11, it is slightly upward.

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In the absence of official stats from Microsoft, the figures don't make deliriously happy reading for the team behind the flagship operating system.

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The months prior to May have been less than stellar for Windows 11, which has failed to get significantly closer to the considerably larger share of its predecessor. In fact, for a few months at the start of the year, it appeared that [5]Windows 11 was actually losing ground , if only very slightly.

[6]Windows 11 24H2 might call time on that old NAS under the stairs

[7]Microsoft's Recall preview doesn't need a Copilot+ PC to run

[8]VBScript nudged nearer to the grave with next big Windows 11 update

[9]Giving Windows total recall of everything a user does is a privacy minefield

Although the latest uptick is perhaps positive for Microsoft, it's unlikely that Windows 11 will surpass Windows 10 before that operating systems reaches the end of support.

However, considering the need of enterprises to replace their PC fleets, fingers will be crossed in Redmond that Windows 11 adoption might finally start accelerating. Early growth in the operating system's market share was mainly down to early adopters with hardware that met Microsoft's draconian requirements. Later growth can be attributed to a relative trickle of PC replacements.

The "Year of the AI PC" can't come soon enough, described by some analysts as " [10]inevitable ." This is particularly true since the end of support for Windows 10 in 2025 will mean many enterprises will be forced to buy new hardware.

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There was more good news for Microsoft as its Edge browser [12]finally crested the 13 percent mark in terms of desktop market share, up from 11 percent a year ago. With a market share of 65 percent, Google's Chrome continues to rule the roost, but Edge's milestone cements its position as number two. ®

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[1] https://gs.statcounter.com/os-version-market-share/windows/desktop/worldwide

[2] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/oses&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2Zl86JoglpxlobQGzgPQSoAAAANA&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0

[3] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/oses&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44Zl86JoglpxlobQGzgPQSoAAAANA&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[4] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/oses&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=3&c=33Zl86JoglpxlobQGzgPQSoAAAANA&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[5] https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/06/windows_11_market_share/

[6] https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/30/windows_11_24h2_security_tweaks/

[7] https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/28/microsofts_recall_preview_on_non_ai_pc/

[8] https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/23/windows_11_24h2_vbscript/

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/22/windows_recall/

[10] https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/18/analysts_2024_ai_pcs/

[11] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/oses&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44Zl86JoglpxlobQGzgPQSoAAAANA&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[12] https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/worldwide

[13] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



Tom Chiverton 1

> the need of enterprises to replace their PC fleets

What need? Most peoples computers became good enough a few years back. Not like the old days where you'd get a huge performance upgrade every few years.

Dan 55

No, now PCs they just fall apart after a few years.

Captain Hogwash

Actually they don't. The manufacturers stop supporting them which is why enterprises replace them for supported models.

Dan 55

In that case you won't mind if we swap PCs. I have one totally not-falling apart PC I could exchange for yours.

Phil O'Sophical

Microsoft is set to launch Copilot+ AI PCs this month, aiming to boost adoption of the little loved Windows 11 operating system.

I would have throught that removing Copilot altogether would have done more to boost adoption...

Uncle Slacky

Edge is certainly a big number 2...

devin3782

If microsoft remove the telemetry, copilot, and stop badgering me about logging in with a microsoft account or using edge and make the start menu search, search my computer first without searching the web i'll happily buy windows 11 pro. As it is Windows 11 isn't an upgrade.

Edge browser number 2

ColinPa

Windows always seems to use edge for displaying stuff, so of course it will show up in the stats. I am surprised it is as low as 13%

Can they get statistics for non windows O/S use, eg for accessing BBC, or google, or amazon?

I think that would give a better idea of the usage

Re: Edge browser number 2

Joe W

It's not just that it uses Edge to display stuff, it also goes great lengths to set it as the default application for basically everything. Let's say that I'm not that happy with this kind of behaviour...

Re: Edge browser number 2

Anonymous Coward

the teams app is edge with a teams wrapper

Re: Edge browser number 2

hoola

I believe the same is (or has happened) with Outlook.

Everything is being wrapped into Edge and as far as I can see it then grabs more and more to do into. Open a link in an email - it goes to Edge inside Outlook even though something else is the default.

PDF - Edge and worse the wretched thing appears to keep resetting.

The list goes on

For what stats are worth...

Mike 137

" The longer-term trend for Windows 10 is very slightly downward, while for Windows 11, it is slightly upward "

What we never get of course is a statement of the uncertainty of these stats, so it's impossible to tell whether a 1% change is really significant. Nevertheless, it's quite possible that the upward trend in W11 take-up is largely due to folks buying new computers, as W11 is all you get offered now except second-hand. So it may not be down to preference, but merely to there being no option.

Re: For what stats are worth...

Missing Semicolon

This is the idea, of course.

I do wonder if part of the slow uptake is a lot of users, both domestic and corporate, who believe that MS will blink and relax the hardware requirements for Win11 before Win10 goes out of support.

People less aware of MS than us would never think that a company could say "that hardware you paid for? Tough, no good, buy it again".

Re: For what stats are worth...

iron

My desktop has met the hardware requirements for Win11 since day 1. If you have a PC built in the last 5 years they should not be an impediment.

I have used Win11 on work laptops and don't like it. It improves nothing and gets in the way more than Win10 even after tweaking various settings. Add to that the only feature that interested me - Android apps - was US only and is (has?) now been removed then what would be the point?

My SteamDeck is showing me I don't need Windows for games. The writing may be on the wall for MS and I've used every version of Windows since 2.0.

Browser market share stats are not reliable

Anonymous Cowerd

Browser market share stats are not reliable - some of the methodologies used are blocked by add-ons (e.g. NoScript)

As for Win11, it will never be on my machine. When Win10 is finally defunct, I'll be installing Linux.

If they weren't removing the choice no one would bother changing

0laf

Iet my laptop 'upgrade' to W11 because it was allowed to and to keep my eye in on new things. Yet again like pretty much every new version of Windows after XP it really offers nothing new or extra to home users. Lets be honest most home users would still be largely happy with W98SE if it supported everything they needed to do.

A new Windows OS is make work for MS, simple newness to drive sales. But an opportunity to gather up all the data they feel they have missed by screwing up their phone and tablet adventures. Also to try to cash in on the microtransactions that are making so much money for everyone else.

My laziness keeps me using Windows but I have to say the data slurping, advertising, nagging, bloated turds that MS produces now are likely to push me over the edge to sort out linux on my W11 unsupported but perfectly usable machine.

Re: If they weren't removing the choice no one would bother changing

Boothy

Apologies for the rant!

I jumped to Linux about 18 months ago now on my main driver at home (still stuck with Windows for work, but they provide that gear, so meh).

All my docs and media are on a NAS (with separate backup and cloud sync), so very little local that needed to be moved, so that made switching easier, for me anyway.

I didn't quite fully commit, as I set up a dual boot, with my existing Win 10 install on one drive, unchanged other than doing a clean up (uninstalling/moving stuff around to fee up other drives etc). Then a separate drive with Mint (as I was already familiar with Mint, other flavours exist). I set up Mint as the primary drive, with Windows as an option via GRUB. But I found, other than booting into Windows to grab some settings or something like that on the odd occasion, that I quickly just stopped using Windows. (Also helps that you can mount NTFS drives as read/write with a single click in Mint (and I assume other flavours), so if all I needed was to grab a file, I can do that from within Linux anyway).

I've been using Mint now for ~18 months, I really can't imagine ever going back to Windows on any personal machine. I don't miss it at all.

A few things I don't miss :

Random slow boot times.

So called background updates or tasks that hog your system for a while (I kept a reasonably clean system).

System updates that seem to take forever even though it's a quick system [*]

Reboots required after even small updates.

The 'update and shutdown/restart' thing, that even when told to update and shutdown, still carries on patching at the next boot up! Time to go get a coffee I guess.

Ads in the Start menu.

Really bad Start menu search system, that keeps pushing Internet results and ads on me (again!). (I turn it off, it then comes back after an update!).

Suggestions, of any sort (it's like Clippy all over again!)

Applications/programs having to be manually updated (I love having a common Software manager and update system now!).

I could go on!

I hadn't realised until I switched, just how many things that are just a normal part of using Windows, are just not a thing, or are less of a hassle, under Linux. To some extent, I hadn't realise just how bad Windows had gotten, until I took that leap, and looked at it from the outside!

Obviously different people will have different use cases, different software needs etc. So millage may vary!

The point is, for me anyway, I have no regrets in jumping to Linux.

And just to be clear, Linux isn't perfect. For example I switched to a different Mesa (GFX driver) as the version in the Mint repo is a bit behind (they go for stability, not cutting edge), and so some newly released games just crashed on start, and this took a bit of digging, and a couple of attempts to get working!

Oh, and I'm also a PC gamer, playing a mix of legacy (C&C, Sword of the Stars, KotoR etc), and newer titles (Horizon Forbidden West, Fallout 4, Starfield, Cyberpunk 2077 etc). All work fine on Linux (sometimes better, especially for older titles such as those written for Win 7 etc).

For ref:

* System: Ryzen 5800X3D, 6900XT, 32GiB RAM, 3 x NVME M.2 drives, one for Windows, one for Mint, and one for my Steam Library :-)

Re: If they weren't removing the choice no one would bother changing

0laf

I'd been put off by gaming issues but largely it appears that Steam etc all pretty much sorted under Linux.

The last terror is probably printing / scanning which had always been a bit of a nightmare in previous Linux experiments.

prh99

That's funny, it's the AI stuff I am trying to avoid....Along with all the ads and data collection.

Kev99

Will AI this and AI that become the next flash in the pan fad like netbooks, luggables, and tablets with barely readable screens? We can only hope.

Meanwhile ...

FuzzyTheBear

Meanw\ile all the fuss goes on , im still happily using ye old Mint on my boxes and enjoying every minute of it.

If there was a sticker that sticks it's tongue out i'd use it :D

Come on .. unless there's a program that needs windows absolutely to run and the pc to perform it's task , why stick with the mess ?

Re: Meanwhile ...

Boothy

Another Mint user, 18 months and counting, no regrets.

The only AI feature I would actually welcome...

Anonymous Coward

... would be a good auto-captioning function for all my photos, so I could sort and find them by sensible description (and people's names, once faces are clustered). I know some of that is available from Google and Amazon, but that's all on their storage - I want a good local version.

Edge is a bully

MJI

Forces its way in hijacking links and the like.

I use Firefox

I actually delete it from 10

Refusing to use 11 due to too many changes.

Home I am going to Mint.

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