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Manjaro 24 is Arch Linux for the rest of us

(2024/05/24)


Manjaro Linux is the DIY-spirited Arch Linux distro, but made easier – so that those still on their way to guru status will be able to say: "I run Arch, BTW."

[1]Manjaro 24.0 "Wynsdey" is the latest release of this Arch Linux metadistro, backed by the eponymous [2]German company . The new release offers kernel 6.9.0 and some of the latest desktop releases: GNOME 46.1, KDE Plasma 6.0.4, and LXQt 2.0.

Manjaro is an interesting attempt to take the rolling-release Arch Linux distribution and mold it into something smoother and more stable. We wrote about [3]Arch for its 20th anniversary , and we've also looked at a couple of the most prominent Arch derivatives, [4]Endeavour OS and [5]Garuda Linux . Like Arch itself, these are both rolling-release projects, with daily updates. Garuda brings Btrfs snapshot support, like that found in openSUSE Tumbleweed, so if an update breaks your system, you can roll back to an older snapshot and get working again quickly.

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Manjaro 24 provides the latest Xfce 4.18 with a tastefully understated theme and wallpaper – click to enlarge

Manjaro takes a different approach. It takes the continuous flow of packages from Arch, then routes them through its own repositories, splitting packages into [7]three branches : Unstable, then Testing, then Stable – a hierarchy that echoes that of Debian. The result is its own distro, with periodic releases, but with considerably more up-to-date components than conventional, fixed-release-cycle distros such as Debian, Ubuntu, or Fedora.

[8]GNU Compiler Collection 15 ushers Xeon Phi and Solaris 11.3 to silicon heaven

[9]In Debian, APT 3 gains features – but KeepassXC loses them

[10]MX Linux updates Libretto, belts out 23.3, based on Debian 12.5

[11]Long-term supported distros' kernel policies are all wrong

Thanks in part to Valve's [12]work on the Steam Deck console , Arch is maturing fast, and the [13]Steam client's usage figures show that it's now one of the most popular distros. The theory behind Manjaro is that it offers the freshness of Arch, but in an easier-to-install form, and one that's more reliable, so you don't need snapshots. Manjaro also gives you access to the famous [14]Arch User Repository , or AUR for short: A vast pool of almost any imaginable Linux software, packaged for Arch. So although Arch – and Manjaro – support the cross-distro Flatpak, Snap, and Appimage packaging formats, you will probably never need them. If there's a Linux version of some software, it's probably in the AUR.

We [15]first looked at Manjaro 21.3 in 2022, and came away somewhat unimpressed. This latest

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release worked more smoothly, and installed perfectly in both VirtualBox and on the bare metal of an old ThinkPad X220. We tried the Xfce edition, which comes with Xfce version 4.18. Manjaro uses the Calamares cross-distro installer, so it's easy to install – but the ThinkPad's small 1366 x 768 LCD meant that on some screens, we had to scroll to see all the options, and since there are no visible scroll bars, this nearly caught us out. We were also surprised to find that it didn't configure any swap at all by default, not even ZRAM memory compression.

Still, it worked fine. A helpful "Hello" welcome screen appears after login, and a minute or so after its first boot, a dialog box appeared automatically and prompted us to install updates. We liked the option to use the [16]free version of Softmaker Office in place of the ubiquitous LibreOffice, and to pick a random but popular proprietary app, it took just a few clicks to install Google Chrome. This distro's space usage was fairly modest, too: Just under 800 MB of RAM and 7.75 GB of disk.

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Manjaro is easier than installing Arch by hand, and more sober and businesslike than Garuda or EndeavourOS. The choice of desktops is also sensibly restrained. The official flavors are GNOME, KDE and Xfce, with community-maintained Cinnamon, i3, and Sway editions. There's also an Arm edition, which supports 18 different Arm-based boards and devices, including several from Pine64 and Raspberry Pi. ®

Get our [18]Tech Resources



[1] https://forum.manjaro.org/t/manjaro-24-0-wynsdey-released/161527

[2] https://manjaro.org/imprint/

[3] https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/arch_linux_20/

[4] https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/29/endeavouros_artemis_226/

[5] https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/28/garuda_linux_arch_better/

[6] https://regmedia.co.uk/2024/05/23/manjaro_24_xfce.jpg

[7] https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Switching_Branches

[8] https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/23/gcc_15_nukes_larrabee/

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/22/apt_gains_keepassxc_loses/

[10] https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/21/mx_linux_233_released/

[11] https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/21/longterm_supported_distros_kernel_policies/

[12] https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/27/osseu_steam_os_3/

[13] https://www.theregister.com/2023/12/04/steam_mac_lin_changes/

[14] https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Arch_User_Repository

[15] https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/22/manjaro_213_released/

[16] https://www.softmaker.com/en/comparison-freeoffice-softmaker-office

[17] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/oses&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2ZlC5qSCb46g3C5QIpmDgiQAAAM0&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0

[18] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



Ah Liam,

cookieMonster

You’re ruining my weekends with all these reviews. Now I have to come up with another excuse to ignore/delay doing stuff I was supposed to LAST weekend.

Have a pint, great weekend, and keep these articles coming.

I like it....

42656e4d203239

I have used Manjaro KDE on my Acer Aspire laptop for a while.... it mostly works - the last update before this one broke something which causes crashes occasionally. Before that it was quick and rock solid.

I ran the update last night, so am expecting - from the forums - an interesting time this evening trying to persuade Plasma 6 to work as I would like it to. If I get bored I may just re-install from scratch.

The only issue I have with Manjaro in general is that the first comment on any request for help after updating (no matter how respectful that request) is "Why didn't you read x y or z before doing the update?" the second is "Why do you expect your users to read documents they don't know exist before doing an update? Updates shouldn't break stuff" then the subsequent posts are split between zealots ranting "RTFM RTFM", people actually offering help and others saying "waaaa it broke my machine, someone needs to magically fix it without me doing anything or I am leaving"!

Re: I like it....

zimzam

So pretty much on par with the Microsoft Community Hub. Their version of RTFM is Restore The Fucking Machine. On reflection, maybe RTFM is a little vague.

I feel so old...

Michael Hoffmann

Once upon a time, Slackware, compiling my own kernels, taking longer to install a distro than using it, before I did it all over.

Now I'm looking at switching to Ubuntu. My brain might well be lost with Arch.

Get off my lawn - I'm trying to come through my walker! :'(

Re: I feel so old...

PM.

You might like Mint, then

Binraider

By far the easiest way to live close to the bleeding edge of Linux while letting the devs do the bleeding. I've been living here for a while and learned to live with most of the quirks.

Two bits consistently continue to annoy. The first is more a problem of linux audio systems than specific to Manjaro - sound never comes back correctly when waking from sleep.

The other is a bit of a head scratcher. A minority of applications from the AUR repos that used to work now just give an icon pop up and immediately close. No doubt someone that knows arcane config file lore could figure it out, but there is literally no user feedback on what's happened and so no clue where to even start on troubleshooting that one.

(Same if attempting to run from the command line also).

zimzam

Do you know if you're using pipewire or pulseaudio? They both have a separate version of this problem. Pulseaudio sets the audio device to a dummy when going to sleep but sometimes doesn't switch back, pipewire has an issue of just not waking back up with the rest of the system.

For pulseaudio you need a script to kill the pulseaudio process so it can reboot (pulseaudio -k), while in pipewire the solution seems to be to just stop it from putting itself to sleep in the first place. If you search for 'Pipewire suspend +your distro' you should find a relevant method.

As for the AUR stuff, if you're using a helper like yay or paru try searching for the package (-Ss just like pacman) to see if there's a different build of it. Some packages have a bin or a git version.

I found Endeavour a better choice

marky_boi

I wanted to escape the SNAP, FLATPACK hell of apps that don't quite work and move from the stealth upgrade of my full Thunderbird install to a flaypack.... pretty pissed about that one... Currently running fine on Endeavour BUT have given up hope of making Bluetooth work without issues...... certainly scratches my itch... Been using a Linux distro for 20+ years

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