Tesla self-driving claims parked in court
(2024/05/16)
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Tesla is facing a lawsuit over claims made about its self-driving technology after a US judge rejected the company's motion to dismiss the case.
Although Judge Rita Lin dismissed some of the claims, [1]the order [PDF] clears the way for disgruntled Tesla owners to pursue action based on the company's increasingly specific boasts about what its cars are capable of and the cross-country driving abilities that are forever just around the corner.
Judge Lin's order states that the claims "may go forward to the extent they rely on representations regarding the car's hardware and imminent cross-country driving abilities."
[2]
The order is a setback for Tesla, which had compared the claims to a bed sheet company getting the thread count wrong. Not so, according to the order. "Tesla did not recite the same lie time and time again; instead, it allegedly lied about its progress incrementally and with increasing specificity over time."
[3]
[4]
The company and its boss, Elon Musk, have certainly made grand claims about its self-driving technology over the years. According to the second amended complaint, Musk claimed in 2016 that a Tesla car would be able to drive itself from Los Angeles to New York "by the end of next year without the need for a single touch."
It hasn't happened yet.
[5]
As the years roll by, the claims become ever more specific. The order states: "For example, in April 2017, Musk allegedly said that Tesla owners could sleep while their cars drove in about two years."
Judge Lin did not rule on the merits of the claims of the plaintiff, Thomas LoSavio, who had bought himself a Tesla in 2017, expecting that the wunder-tech would eventually be implemented as per the company's claims. In an [6]amended complaint [PDF] in 2022, it was stated that "contrary to Tesla's repeated promises that it would have a fully self-driving car within months or a year, Tesla has never been remotely close to achieving that goal."
[7]Tesla nearing shareholder vote to grant Musk $46B
[8]Clean Air Act complaint paints smoggy picture at Tesla Fremont factory
[9]German plod defend Tesla gigafactory from eco-warriors
[10]Tesla accused of union buster bluster at Buffalo factory
The case hinges on a few specifics, one of which is that the hardware built into LoSavio's car was not capable of full automation. The order states: "LoSavio plausibly alleges that he reasonably believed Tesla's claims that it could achieve self-driving with the car's existing hardware and that, if he diligently brought his car in for the required updates, the car would soon achieve the promised results."
Sadly for LoSavio, that also hasn't happened.
Tesla is under intense scrutiny over its Autopilot technology. Last year the company attempted to remotely patch the software in more than two million vehicles [11]as part of a recall following a damning investigation into the system's safety.
[12]
In May 2024, the effectiveness of that fix was [13]called into question by authorities.
The case number is 22-cv-05240-RFL in the US District Court of the Northern District of California. Tesla's response is due by June 19.
The Register asked Tesla to comment but did not receive a response. ®
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Although Judge Rita Lin dismissed some of the claims, [1]the order [PDF] clears the way for disgruntled Tesla owners to pursue action based on the company's increasingly specific boasts about what its cars are capable of and the cross-country driving abilities that are forever just around the corner.
Judge Lin's order states that the claims "may go forward to the extent they rely on representations regarding the car's hardware and imminent cross-country driving abilities."
[2]
The order is a setback for Tesla, which had compared the claims to a bed sheet company getting the thread count wrong. Not so, according to the order. "Tesla did not recite the same lie time and time again; instead, it allegedly lied about its progress incrementally and with increasing specificity over time."
[3]
[4]
The company and its boss, Elon Musk, have certainly made grand claims about its self-driving technology over the years. According to the second amended complaint, Musk claimed in 2016 that a Tesla car would be able to drive itself from Los Angeles to New York "by the end of next year without the need for a single touch."
It hasn't happened yet.
[5]
As the years roll by, the claims become ever more specific. The order states: "For example, in April 2017, Musk allegedly said that Tesla owners could sleep while their cars drove in about two years."
Judge Lin did not rule on the merits of the claims of the plaintiff, Thomas LoSavio, who had bought himself a Tesla in 2017, expecting that the wunder-tech would eventually be implemented as per the company's claims. In an [6]amended complaint [PDF] in 2022, it was stated that "contrary to Tesla's repeated promises that it would have a fully self-driving car within months or a year, Tesla has never been remotely close to achieving that goal."
[7]Tesla nearing shareholder vote to grant Musk $46B
[8]Clean Air Act complaint paints smoggy picture at Tesla Fremont factory
[9]German plod defend Tesla gigafactory from eco-warriors
[10]Tesla accused of union buster bluster at Buffalo factory
The case hinges on a few specifics, one of which is that the hardware built into LoSavio's car was not capable of full automation. The order states: "LoSavio plausibly alleges that he reasonably believed Tesla's claims that it could achieve self-driving with the car's existing hardware and that, if he diligently brought his car in for the required updates, the car would soon achieve the promised results."
Sadly for LoSavio, that also hasn't happened.
Tesla is under intense scrutiny over its Autopilot technology. Last year the company attempted to remotely patch the software in more than two million vehicles [11]as part of a recall following a damning investigation into the system's safety.
[12]
In May 2024, the effectiveness of that fix was [13]called into question by authorities.
The case number is 22-cv-05240-RFL in the US District Court of the Northern District of California. Tesla's response is due by June 19.
The Register asked Tesla to comment but did not receive a response. ®
Get our [14]Tech Resources
[1] https://regmedia.co.uk/2024/05/16/teslaamendedcomplaint.pdf
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[6] https://regmedia.co.uk/2024/05/16/teslacourtorder.pdf
[7] https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/15/tesla_shareholder_vote_on_giving/
[8] https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/15/clean_air_act_tesla/
[9] https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/11/tesla_gigafactory_police/
[10] https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/10/tesla_suppressed_union_nlrb/
[11] https://www.theregister.com/2023/12/13/tesla_recall_autopilot_safety/
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[13] https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/08/nhtsa_tesla_autopilot/
[14] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/
The cookie is crumbling
Pascal Monett
Looks like shareholders might want to wait on awarding the man-child a fortune in shares . . .
Not even autopilot
Mage
An aircraft autopilot is engaged when cruising. Similarly a ship. They are not used in busy areas, never mind harbours or airports. Automatic landing and takeoff is possible, but only under human supervision and ensuring flight path and runways are empty.
Trains logistically are the first terrestrial vehicle to automate.
Buy things on what they can do
MatthewSt
If it's not in your spec sheet or your contract then you shouldn't rely on it. Not defending Musk here, that's true of absolutely everything.
Wonder what took so long
Musk lies again and again with impunity, surely the buyers defrauded by his false claims should have some sort of recourse.