Tax helpline callers left on hold for nearly eight centuries
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This is according to the National Audit Office (NAO), which [1]found the time spent waiting in the 12 months to March last year was more than double the time wasted in fiscal 2020. It says digital channels intended to ease service pressures didn't help as expected.
The plan was to convince more citizens phoning in with questions about their taxes to consider using online services to resolve them more quickly. It was also intended to cut costs for His Majesty's Revenue and Customs (HMRC), and free up staff to tackle those needing extra support.
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However, the NAO found that it is not clear how "far and fast digital will reduce demand for telephone calls and correspondence services." It also reckons digital services are best suited to "straightforward queries and reporting changes in customers' circumstances."
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HMRC has not done enough to raise awareness of alternative customer service channels, said the NAO, and the "quality of service provided by HMRC telephone and correspondence has been far below the levels expected in recent years, and has not met annual targets."
The ultimate aim is to handle 80 percent of queries within 15 days and it managed 73 percent, albeit better than 45 percent rates achieved during the pandemic.
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The NAO said the number of telephone calls to HMRC has reduced, yet the amount of time advisors spend on a call has increased – it was up to 23 minutes in the first 11 months of fiscal 2024. This means the call-handling workload pressures have reduced more slowly than forecast. More taxpayers hold multiple jobs and often have more complex needs, and fiscal drag has brought more taxpayers into the system, the NAO said.
This meant proposed headcount reductions could not be realized, the watchdog said. HMRC expunged 9 percent between fiscal 2020 and fiscal 2024. Budget constraints mean it now needs to cut staff numbers by 14 percent, according to the NAO.
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In March, HMRC said it would restrict a number of helplines, including the Self Assessment helpline for six months. This was to ease funding pressures, but after just one day the tax collector U-turned. A more realistic plan to cut services being replaced with digital channels and to market them more effectively is something HMRC must consider, the watchdog concluded.
"HMRC's telephone and correspondence services have been below its target service levels for too long," said Gareth Davies, head of the NAO.
"While many of its digital services work well, they have not made enough of a difference to customers, some of whom have been caught in a declining spiral of service pressures and cuts. HMRC has also not achieved planned efficiencies.
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"HMRC must allow more time for these services to bed in and understand the difference they make before adjusting staffing levels."
This isn't the first time HMRC has been criticized for poor telephone support. The Public Accounts Committee also [11]pulled the authority over hot coals in March .
An HMRC spokesperson told The Register : "While customer service standards on our phone lines are still not where we want them to be, we're making strong progress in our efforts to improve our customer service and additional funding has been confirmed by the government this week.
"Millions more people used our highly rated online services last year – saving them waiting on the phone and freeing up our advisors to deal with those people who need extra support. We continue to encourage people to deal with us online or via the app where they can, and we are working to provide even better, easier and always-available online services. But, as we have recognised, these changes need to happen at a speed and in ways that our customers are comfortable with." ®
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Not fit for purpose
I've had occasion to call 7 times since the beginning of Dec. Not a single issue could be solved by using the website.
After submitting a reclaim they then sent me a letter telling me I had to fill in a form which was "enclosed" but it wasn't The form isn't downloadable. I called to ask them to resend it, it wasn't sent a second time. Third time I called for this issue I was told the form wasn't needed and I should just write a letter. The fourth time I was told it wasn't even in progress but it would be completed in 6 weeks - I'm still waiting.
Out of the 7 calls only one advisor has given me correct informtion and the rest contradictory or useless.
I'm owed a five figure sum and still trying to get them to admit a mistake from 2019/20, never mind what they owe me from 23/24
Re: Not fit for purpose
Not a single issue could be solved by using the website.
This is the problem with most 'digtal helplines' - they are heavily structured into what someone expects the most likely queries to be, despite the fact that those are the queries where the websites usually do contain the necessary info and forms.
People need to ring helplines when their problem is out of the ordinary and can't be solved on the website, which is exactly when these helplines fall down.
Re: Not fit for purpose
The problem is that it's not an out of the ordinary issue, it's one faced by hundreds of thousand of individuals every year. It was a simple request for repayment of higher rate tax on pension contributions.
There's a convoluted way to tell them you want to reclaim online but there's no way to submit the documentary proof that they require other than by post with accompanying letter. Hence my title, not fit for purpose.
"HMRC has not done enough"
I'm thinking that Sir Humphrey would be proud.
Still waiting...
for a callback promised in June 2020.
Cost to the economy ?
Using the minimum wage of £11.44/hour that works out as £79,971,091 in lost time.
Re: Cost to the economy ?
Don't forget the compound interest of 798 years!
The losses are greater than you can imagine.
;-)
1226
Took the click bait.
798 years ago, 1226 Henry III (or his regent) obtained a tax levy for £40,000 (real pounds then, mind) for his army in his french possessions.
I can imagine some Templar grandmaster on the horn waiting to try and convince HMR&C of his order's tax exempt status*. I imagine the musak being Greensleeves unless Henry VIII did compose it.
Wasn't great year for the Cathars either.
* Taxation was probably one reason 80 years later Philip IV liquidated the order and its members. HMR&C clearly not quite as efficient as Philip.
"can imagine some Templar grandmaster on the horn"
Templar Grandmaster Giorg, who was granted immortality by drinking from the Holy Grail, is an outlier and should not be counted.
Re: 1226
You are almost as pedantic as me, who when watching Henry V tried to work out quite how many men Westmoreland's famous "Oh, that we now had here, But one ten thousand of those men in England that do no work today" and found out that approximated to 2.6 men.
It is small wonder he later agrees with his cousin, King Hal "Would you and I alone, Without more help, could fight this royal battle!"
Enquiry
In England, the home of English and the home of HMRC, we use 'enquiry' for random question to some authority.
HMRC vs...
In Canada the current statistical drama is about the number of CRA (Canada Revenue Agency) employees.
59,000 for a population of 40 million.
The UK has HMRC with 64,738 for a population of 67 million. The UK seems to be doing better (more efficient, huh.)
The US has IRS with 93,654 for a population of 341 million. OK so way more efficient.
Size of militaries: 68,000 / 130,000 / 2,080,000. See where the priorities lie.
Re: HMRC vs...
Notwithstanding that the IRS is at the Federal level (i.e. State tax collection headcount is excluded) it would be interesting to see genuine all-encompasing figures because the UK, at least, requires employers to do much of the tax collection work for it. So that very rough 1 tax collector per 1000 head of population is more likely to be nearly 2. Which seems a lot!
The recent Treasury Committee hearing...
Anon because...
At the recent Treasury Committee hearing HMRC did admit that they turned off the help lines a bit too abruptly.
Therese Coffey got a bit of a bee in her bonnet about HMRC's call centre staff working from home. So much so she managed to complain that she had visited some HMRC offices **during lockdown** and found no one in the offices. Facepalm! (Scroll down to Q345.)
I feel very fortunate
that my call was answered relatively promptly, and resolved in good time as well.