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Tesla devotee tests Cybertruck safety with his own finger – and fails

(2024/05/08)


We know that Tesla Cybertruck owners are very special, and their mothers love them very much, but perhaps the most special of all is the one who "broke" his finger attempting to demonstrate the safety of the "frunk" closing mechanism.

The frunk is powered and shouldn't be closed manually, according to the [1]owner's manual , because it could cause damage. This is operated either through the mobile app or a button on the frunk itself.

The documentation repeatedly warns owners to "ensure that all hands and other objects are free of the powered frunk before closing it" due to the risk of "damage or serious injury."

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All the same, owners have demonstrated that a sensor system is in play, which beeps and reopens the frunk when an obstacle is detected. Some have gone so far as to stick their digits in the way as a show of faith in the latest Muskmobile. It appears this faith is sorely misplaced.

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Responding to a [5]video where another idiot had his finger crushed in the frunk, a Tesla fan going by Joe Fay – [6]no relation – insisted in a YouTube Short that this shouldn't be happening.

"There's no way it would actually crush your finger, right?" the devotee wonders. "Let's put it to the test!" Yes, let's.

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With the rigor of a true scientific mind, Fay begins with his arm. The frunk chimes and raises. OK, hand now. Bing! Up it goes. Finger ... the moment of truth. The faint of heart among us should probably look away now. Bing! What?

"Oh, it stopped! It hurt a little bit but it didn't crush my finger. We're good, we're good."

But Fay didn't count on the bloodthirstiness of the average netizen – or maybe he did. Doing [8]incredibly stupid and/or dangerous things for views isn't unheard of in the "content creator" industry.

[9]Gone in 35 seconds – the Cybertruck's misbehaving acceleration pedal

[10]Tesla Cybertruck turns into world's most expensive brick after car wash

[11]Unintended acceleration leads to recall of every Cybertruck produced so far

[12]Tesla's Cybertruck may not be so stainless after all

According to his viewers, he was doing it wrong. "In my last video, everybody kept saying that when the Tesla Cybertruck was coming down on my finger that I pushed up to make it open up and sense my finger, but that's not just not true," he says in a follow-up titled [13]MY CYBERTRUCK BROKE MY FINGER .

"To prove that wrong, I'm going to put my finger completely flat against the Cybertruck this time. I'm not going to hover it, I'll put it completely flat and see if it crushes my finger because everybody is asking."

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He then takes a twig and tests the frunk's effect, which, as you might expect, effortlessly chops the stick in two. At this point, we have to marvel at Fay's extreme bravery. I don't know about you, dear reader, but I would be seriously questioning the wisdom of what I was about to do.

"Hopefully, my finger doesn't break like that, but let's find out." Yes, let's.

Undeterred, Fay lays his finger flat on the body as the frunk door descends. A sharp intake of breath is followed by a long series of howls, yowls, and yelps – music to the ears of those who delight in watching natural selection in action.

"OK, oh my God, owwwww. OK, I can't even move my finger right now, I might have actually broken it," he groans once freed from the [15]"stainless" steel maw. "Look at how bad that puncture is."

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[1] https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/GUID-F2E1AC08-A176-4A97-ACB2-F5C215F93BEB.html

[2] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_offbeat/bootnotes&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2ZjuhnjUIzb-PPchRtKhW9wAAAMo&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0

[3] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_offbeat/bootnotes&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44ZjuhnjUIzb-PPchRtKhW9wAAAMo&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[4] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_offbeat/bootnotes&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=3&c=33ZjuhnjUIzb-PPchRtKhW9wAAAMo&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[5] https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cOW-2YBjXSc

[6] https://www.theregister.com/Author/Joe-Fay

[7] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_offbeat/bootnotes&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44ZjuhnjUIzb-PPchRtKhW9wAAAMo&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[8] https://www.theregister.com/2023/12/05/youtuber_jailed_plane_crash/

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/22/tesla_accelerator_fix/

[10] https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/20/cybertruck_car_wash_mode/

[11] https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/19/tesla_recalls_all_3878_cybertrucks/

[12] https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/13/tesla_cybertruck_rust/

[13] https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OTrK_7vUGiY

[14] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_offbeat/bootnotes&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=3&c=33ZjuhnjUIzb-PPchRtKhW9wAAAMo&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[15] https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/13/tesla_cybertruck_rust/

[16] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



Who's next

Alumoi

for the Darwin award? Come on, there are a lot of Tesla owners. Don't be shy!

Re: Who's next

Greybearded old scrote

It would only be a Darwin award if he used a different body part.

Re: Who's next

Jellied Eel

It would only be a Darwin award if he used a different body part.

Give it time and Tesla will launch the Mohel edition, bringing the past to the future!

Re: Who's next

Paul Herber

Doesn't anyone want to stick their neck out?

Frunk or froot?

Vincent van Gopher

US = front trunk

UK = front boot

Personally I like froot better than frunk as in the UK we rarely say trunk for the back luggage area of a car.

Re: Frunk or froot?

Throatwarbler Mangrove

It does seem like Cybertruck owners are a bunch of Froot Loops, so I'll allow it.

Re: Frunk or froot?

Charlie Clark

Why not just say fanny or front bottom and be done. After all the owners are all a bunch of…

Next Up:

Wally Dug

Mr Fay checks to see if that paint really is wet before embarking on a trip to the woods to look for a bear clutching a roll of Andrex.

Re: Next Up:

Anonymous Coward

That triggers an off topic question: Bog roll marketers have for decades bigged up the kitten/puppy/koala softness associated with their product, but this begs the question who took one for the team and did a blind test comparison? Maybe a docile labrador puppy is relatively low risk, but kittens have sharp edges all over, and the claws on koalas...well, you just wouldn't.

Re: Next Up:

Vincent van Gopher

Why haven't the bum fodder marketers gone with the 'the neck of a goose, that is well downed' yet? Proven by French monk Francois Rabelais' in his 16th century comic work Gargantua and Pantagruel.

Re: Next Up: Re: Koalas

Eclectic Man

I don't want to worry anyone, but Koala bears have a rather high chance of infection with chlamydia:

"Chlamydia is a major disease threat to our Koala population."*

Whatever you do, do not check out whether a specific brand of toilet paper really is as soft as Koala fur on a certain body part.

https://koalahospital.org.au/pages/disease#:~:text=Chlamydia%20is%20a%20major%20disease,Chlamydia%20pneumonia%20and%20Chlamydia%20pecorum.

Re: Next Up: Koalas

Dinanziame

"Chlamydia is a major disease threat to our Koala population."

As knows every John Oliver fan, thanks to Russell Crowe

Stupidity is without limit.

LenG

Did it never occur to him to try it first with a carrot??

Re: Stupidity is without limit.

Andy Non

or a different appendage... then it really would be Darwin in action.

Re: Stupidity is without limit.

wolfetone

Don't stick your pinky where you wouldn't stick your dinky.

Re: Stupidity is without limit.

Doctor Syntax

It depends on whether they've already reproduced.

Re: Stupidity is without limit.

brett_x

You're not going to get clicks with carrots.

Re: Stupidity is without limit.

A Non e-mouse

If you read the article, he tried with a twig and the twig was snapped. Ignoring that piece of evidence, he carried on regardless.

Re: Stupidity is without limit.

MiguelC

But his mother still loves him very much

F. Frederick Skitty

If he'd tried shutting his finger in the door, then he'd have most likely severed it, as demonstrated by some slightly less stupid[1] Cybertruck owners who used a carrot.

[1] I say only slightly less stupid, as you have to be a serious moron to own one of those Tesla contraptions in the first place.

"It appears this faith is sorely misplaced"

Pascal Monett

The usual result for faith in anything Musk.

Re: "It appears this faith is sorely misplaced"

EvilDrSmith

'Sore' here being the operative word.

"The frunk is powered and shouldn't be closed manually"

Mike 137

Why?

How much effort is involved in opening and closing one manually supposing it's properly balanced with air struts?

Re: "The frunk is powered and shouldn't be closed manually"

Kurgan

Since it's powered if you operate it manually you will damage the servo, probably.

Re: "The frunk is powered and shouldn't be closed manually"

Mike 137

Not the point. What I ask is why powered anyway as manual opening and closing is simple and works.

Re: manual opening and closing is simple and works.

sabroni

You really don't understand Tesla owners.

Re: "The frunk is powered and shouldn't be closed manually"

Lee D

Have they not heard of clutches, ratcheted gears, etc. in this auto manufacturer?

Re: "The frunk is powered and shouldn't be closed manually"

ChrisC

You're making the mistake of presuming that Tesla should be considered an auto manufacturer...

IMO they're best considered an EV powertrain engineering company that attempts to wrap their latest creations in something resembling, but not quite equalling, a vehicle, rather than doing what they ought to do and simply sell said powertrain tech to whichever actual vehicle manufacturers want a proven EV powertrain around which they can wrap their own tried and tested vehicle designs.

Re: "The frunk is powered and shouldn't be closed manually"

AVR

Those cost money. The frunk's got power to open and close because that looks cool, but it's got the absolute cheapest version without the safety features - for humans or the car - that other manufacturers have because that's the way Elon rolls.

Re: "The frunk is powered and shouldn't be closed manually"

ChrisC

Thus proving, as if there wasn't already enough evidence to indicate this, that, whilst Tesla may have (or at least HAD, depending on which round of layoffs we're into by the time you read this...) some world class engineers in their powertrain division, they were scraping the bottom of the barrel when it came to hiring the teams responsible for designing everything else that you need to put into a vehicle if you want people to consider it even remotely modern and well designed.

The OH has had a few cars with doors and tailgates that could be opened and closed at the push of a button, but EVERY SINGLE ONE of those vehicles was correctly designed so that the same opening and closing process could be performed manually with absolutely ZERO risk of damage to any part of the vehicle. Similarly, the last few vehicles I've had feature power-fold wing mirrors, which are similarly quite happy to be moved by hand without damage. Indeed, so well designed is the powerfold mechanism on my current vehicle that, when the mirror ended up being bent all the way forwards when some complete moron decided to change lanes without looking and dragged the side of their van along the side of my car as they drove off into the distance, the only damage was to the plastic clip-on shell covering the mirror innards, and *that* was only because after it had pinged off the mirror during the collision, another vehicle in the adjacent lane then drove over it...

So there is simply NO EXCUSE for designing a powered thingumybob into a modern vehicle which, if adjusted manually, is at risk of being broken. None at all. Not in your entry level vehicle, and certainly not in the one you're touting as your flagship must-have ubervehicle that will conquer the world.

Re: "The frunk is powered and shouldn't be closed manually"

Zarno

They likely used a worm gear someplace in the actuator, and manually collapsing it will shear teeth.

Or, they used a leadscrew pitch that would allow someone to shear teeth.

Or, they forgot the flyback protection diodes to clamp the voltage generated by the linear actuator being driven backwards.

I can see a few things they could have overlooked/"just dealt with" to get it out the door.

Nothing absolves them from the whole "increase torque request till it shuts" methodology, that's just really bad design.

Re: "The frunk is powered and shouldn't be closed manually"

MrBanana

There is some utility in having a powered trunk/boot. My Volvo estate has powered boot which is linked to a sensor under the rear bumper. If you have your keys in your pocket and armfuls of shopping then you can wave your foot under the bumper and it will trigger the tailgate to unlock and open. This is very handy. There are two buttons inside, one to close, another to close and lock. Also a button on your remote key fob as well as the outside handle. However you can only use the powered options. There isn't a way to manually close the tailgate. I wish it would operate like a CD drawer, where you just give it a small push and then it closes automatically.

Re: "The frunk is powered and shouldn't be closed manually"

Phil O'Sophical

My car has a powered boot lid. If I were to operate it as it was supplied in my garage or a multistorey car park it would bang into the upper surface and damage the paint. In consequence I have to adjust the stop point so that it doesn't fully open. The result of that is that it doesn't open fully in exterior places but remains at just the right height to crack my head on the protruding lock mechanism if I forget to manually force it to max (and the book says not to do that).

All my previous cars had a nice, simple, manual lift which I could gently open, against a strategically placed pad if required, with no risk of damage to car or head. It's just another example of an annoying gadget fitted "because we can", and not to meet any real need.

Re: "The frunk is powered and shouldn't be closed manually"

RobThBay

Having the sensor under the rear bumper works fine until a trailer hitch is installed.

Re: "The frunk is powered and shouldn't be closed manually"

LenG

So what do you do if the battery is flat? Leave it open in the rain??

Re: "The frunk is powered and shouldn't be closed manually"

Doctor Syntax

Manula opening and closing, air struts etc. are for poor but sensible people. This is not the Tesla market. Closing it with a mobile app should tell you that.

WTF is a frunk

MJI

NEVER heard of one

Re: WTF is a frunk

Vincent van Gopher

EVs don't have a dirty old engine in the front so you get a small amount of storage space under the bonnet/hood. Call it a front trunk or front boot - frunk or froot.

Re: WTF is a frunk

A Non e-mouse

It depends on the EV. Some EVs are just electric versions of existing ICE cars so the electric motor (and all its control gubbins) sits in the engine bay. Cars that are designed as pure EVs from day one often give you a front storage compartment.

Re: WTF is a frunk

Little Mouse

I believe the technical term is: "Clipped compound"

Oh frunk!

Howard Sway

Looks like I can give the frunk five out of five for safety.... aaaaaagh!..... yes, that's four out of four for safety!

Re: Oh frunk!

Serge Over-Clocker

Four out of five because four fingers weren't broken!

Bonnet. Buh-on-et.

that one in the corner

The lid at the front is the bonnet.

Frunk! I swear, by my pretty floral bonnet, what a ridiculous monicker.

Re: Bonnet. Buh-on-et.

KarMann

Didn't Volkswagen owners sort this out well over half a century ago? This isn't exactly new tech in that regard.

Also, a tip of the bonnet for the Firefly reference. Mine's the brown one. -->

Eclectic Man

Is there any part of the Tesla Truck that is not a nightmare?

Supposedly bullet proof glass that shattered at the initial demonstration.

Steel bodywork that rusts, and is corroded by grease from physical human contact.

Wheel rims that should be removed before going 'off road'

A rear-view mirror that is obscured when the truck rear cover is in operation.

Owners who don't believe that their fingers could be damaged by being caught in the 'front trunk' lid when automatically closing.

See various Register articles on the above. It is almost getting to the pointy where there should be a specific item "Tesla Truck" in the Register menu fro quick access.

Methinks I shall buy me a Mercedes*

* "Oh Lord won't you buy me,

A Mercedes-Benz ..."

A. Coatsworth

>> Is there any part of the Tesla Truck that is not a nightmare?

The fact that this monstruosity sells for up to $100K...

And there is people queueing for it?

Not sure why Tesla would bother with minutieae such as safety, security, or usability if the cultist are (metaphorically for now) diyng to give them their money

Similar but very different:

I am David Jones

This reminded me of some guy who invented a really impressive circular saw emergency stop mechanism. The blade could detect contact with skin and it would then be stopped and retracted ridiculously quickly. Successfully tested on frankfurter sausages, he then tried his own finger (taking a load of painkillers in advance).

It worked as designed, cutting just a millimetre into his finger. Hurt like hell, apparently. That kind of informed confidence / bravery I can admire, unlike Mr Cybertruck.

Not sure if this is a different company or an updated mechanism, but you get the idea:. https://www.sawstop.com/why-sawstop/the-technology/

Re: Similar but very different:

Lurko

That is very impressive, although it's unfortunately not mandatory, nor (currently) offered for handheld circular saws. A quick google for "circular saw accident" brings up some tales of grue.

Can only be closed by the button or an app on the phone?

Marty McFly

Tesla owner... Grab phone. Authenticate. Discover weak network signal. Climb on top of Tesla. Hold phone to the sky. Get enough signal for the app to log in. Go through various menus. Find option. Close the "frunk". Proudly explain to gawkers the absurdity of the process. Pledge undying love to Elon Musk Rube Goldberg for the product design.

Every other vehicle owner.... Grab handle, pull, shut.

WTFrunk...

xyz

A) How can a stupid dipshit (as described) even afford a cybertruck?

B) Did his blood damage the stainable stainless steel?

Stupid, n.:
Losing $25 on the game and $25 on the instant replay.