October 2025 will be a support massacre for a bunch of Microsoft products
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October 14, 2025, is the date. Most versions of Windows 10 are set to be retired by then, and Microsoft and its hardware partners are keen to get users onto Windows 11. However, a raft of productivity apps are also due to [1]drop out of support , meaning a double or triple whammy for administrators dealing with upgrades.
While nothing will stop working immediately, the Windows vendor warned that after this end date, "Microsoft will no longer provide security fixes, bug fixes, or technical support."
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"Using products after end of support leaves your organization vulnerable to potential security threats, productivity losses, and compliance issues."
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Microsoft would also like customers to make use of its cloud services. Its preferred option would be a sign up for something like its E3 subscription for continuous support and updates.
However, this isn't an option for all. The brave souls running Exchange Server on-premises are particularly affected. Exchange 2019 runs out of support next year, but there remains no replacement.
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In 2022, Microsoft [6]said the next version of the server would turn up in the second half of 2025. It was originally planned for 2021, but Microsoft said: "Unfortunately, 2021 had other plans for Exchange Server. In March 2021, we confronted a serious reality: state sponsored threat actors were targeting on-premises Exchange servers."
Since then, Microsoft has focused on [7]patching vulnerabilities within Exchange Server but has steadfastly refused to change the end of support date. On the plus side, when the next version is released, Microsoft has promised to extend support beyond October 14, 2025.
Skype for Business Server 2019 is also due to retire on October 14, 2025, although in 2022 Microsoft [8]said it would "remain committed to supporting Skype for Business Server" beyond that date.
[9]Admin alert: Copilot app lands on Windows Server 2022
[10]Microsoft to tackle spam by restricting Exchange Online bulk email
[11]AI gold rush continues as Microsoft invests $1.5B in UAE's G42
[12]Microsoft to use Windows 11 Start menu as a billboard with app ads for Insiders
Microsoft also announced at the Ignite 2020 event that it planned to release a versionless on-premises solution dubbed vNext, saying that the upgrade from Skype for Business 2019 to vNext would be smooth, and the new server would be "the easiest path to migrate users to Teams in the future."
In 2023, analyst Directions on Microsoft [13]asked a simple question: "Where is Skype for Business vNext?"
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A good question, and one that some organizations have taken upon themselves to answer by migrating to a different platform. Swedish authorities are, for example, [15]looking for an alternative .
We asked Microsoft about the whereabouts of Skype for Business vNext and will update should the company have any information to share.
All of which highlights the risk facing Microsoft with so many products coming to the end of support. While the company hopes and expects most customers to have moved to a subscription model and continuous support, there is also a possibility that those same customers might take this opportunity to consider alternatives. ®
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[1] https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/office-end-of-support-blog/key-end-of-support-dates-for-office-2016-2019-apps-amp/ba-p/4095876
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[6] https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/exchange-team-blog/exchange-server-roadmap-update/ba-p/3421389
[7] https://www.theregister.com/2023/01/28/microsoft_patch_exchange_servers/
[8] https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/skype-for-business-blog/skype-for-business-server-support-skype-for-business-app-sdk-amp/ba-p/3599779
[9] https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/18/copilot_on_windows_server_2022/
[10] https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/16/microsoft_external_recipient_limit/
[11] https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/16/microsoft_g42_investment/
[12] https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/15/microsoft_recommendations_windows_11/
[13] https://www.directionsonmicrosoft.com/blog/where-is-skype-for-business-server-vnext/
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[15] https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/08/tele2_collaborate/
[16] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/
Re: Exchange Server?
Don't be so harsh, I used to enjoy watching the Pool Non-Paged Bytes running out as well as running a defrag on some of the database files every weekend with Exchange 2003. I could tailor the work for my on-call weeks to pay for holidays or projects around the house that I was working on.
The Exchange Server situation is ridiculous - there is currently no version in mainstream support, since it ended on the 2019 version back in January this year.
This is made even more ridculous by the fact that many organisations will be running it solely for managing Exchange Online mailboxes attached to hybrid accounts (it is possible to manage them without on-prem Exchange, but is a right pain in the arse). Not only has the full-fat Exchange failed to materialise for years, but they've also not done the obvious thing of producing a set of lightweight management tools for managing online mailboxes in a hybrid deployment.
Well, they will have to migrate to Lotus Notes, then...
Hmm ... there are large organisations who would sooner move to something else rather than to cloudy Exchange. Trouble is, unless you go back to building your own mail networks out of *nix boxes, I'm not sure there are groupware servers that could scale like this. Sure you'd be building them from Red Hat rather than Solaris these days, but even so ....
... or little pointless things like porting the Address Policies over to Exchange Online, which (along with the death of Unified Messaging post Exchange 2013) is the only reason why [RedactedCo] still runs a hybrid implementation of exchange.
Win 10 will surely get an extension
Unless Microsoft go on an all out blitz to push users to 11 (and let's face it, not like they haven't been trying), they will surely be forced to extend the EOL date.
At the time of writing, 11 only has around 25 percent adoption!
I don't know what the minimum adoption rate Microsoft would consider when pulling the plug on win10 support, but if 50 percent of users are still on it by October 2025, that's a HUGE headache for Microsoft.
Re: Win 10 will surely get an extension
One thing they could try, to save face, is reduce the hardware requirements for W11 from mandatory to optional.
Re: Win 10 will surely get an extension
Win10 ALREADY HAD a support extension, is called ESU, and costs$61 for the first year.
People who do notknow what the ESU is, or do not qualify, or do not want to pay,or do not wnt to move to Win11 when their hardware does qualify, are of no interest to microsoft.
Re: Win 10 will surely get an extension
Well, maybe - but it possibly rather depends on the uptake when the end date is coming close. Just imagine the potential reputational damage if there are still a high percentage of Windows users on 10 at the end of support. Would Microsoft risk it?
Re: Win 10 will surely get an extension
They did with xp
So to on-prem sites I would recommend you start evaluating Linux and in particular Ubuntu 24.04 LTS when it comes out in a week or two and then any and all open source stacks that could be alternatives and then when Microsoft pulls the rug out by 2025 and tries to force everyone to be renters then pull the plug on Microsoft by going with Ubuntu 26.04 LTS when it comes out in 2026 after your two year evaluation and transition to Ubuntu and your open source alternatives. And if you find you still need to run now unsupported Microsoft software run it in Ubuntu with Wine or the more polished Crossover Office. And then fill in any cracks with online / cloud services. It’s high time to fob off Microsoft.
It's funny they say this: "Using products after end of support leaves your organization vulnerable to potential security threats, productivity losses, and compliance issues" when everyone knows that even with support from Microsoft their organization is "vulnerable to potential security threats, productivity losses, and compliance issues" while using their unsecure by default software.
Heart of Gold's GPP and Clippy.
I'd be OK with new Microsoft products if each "upgrade" didn't treat me as though I had early onset dementia. "Do you want help writing that email? Er, no, I've been doing it for long enough that I think I've got the hang of English grammar and can express myself to a sufficient level of clarity.
What I don't need is Clippy with the Heart of Gold's Genuine People Personality.
And, to heighten the sense of creeping dementia, Microsoft is gaslighting me by taking features I use a lot and hiding them. Is there a maximum number of features they are allowed to put in Windows before they have to take something useful out?
Exchange Server?
Why are people still running that (nearly 30 years ago it was junk) and Sharepoint?
No, I don't want subscription anything, except my internet connection and similar were there is no alternative.
Finally ditched windows in 2016.