Alibaba's research arm promises server-class RISC-V processor due this year
(2024/03/20)
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Alibaba's research arm, the Damo Academy, last week promised to deliver a server-grade RISC-V processor later this year, showed off a RISC-V-powered laptop running the open source cut of Huawei's CentOS spinout, and talked up a growing community working on the permissively licensed processor architecture.
News of the forthcoming processor – dubbed the C930 – emerged at last week's Xuantie RISC-V Ecological Conference held in Shenzhen. Numerous Chinese media [1]reported that Damo reps announced the imminent debut of a processor that, like other chips cooked up by the Alibaba lab and its T-Head chip design unit, are aimed at server-class workloads. It's 2024, so that means AI is also on the agenda.
Details of the chip were not discussed.
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But Damo Academy folk did discuss a new laptop called the RuyiBOOK that will run the [3]T-Head C910 . That chip, curiously, no longer appears on the chip designer's website but the Wayback Machine [4]reveals that it offered between one and four cores, a 12-stage superscalar pipeline optimized for arithmetic operations, and a design suitable for edge servers, AI, and telecoms applications.
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Now it's apparently suitable for laptops, too.
[7]French cloud Scaleway starts renting Alibaba's RISC-V SoC
[8]Leaked docs hint Google may use SiFive RISC-V cores in next-gen TPUs
[9]MIPS snags top SiFive brains to amp up RISC-V business
[10]China's Loongson debuts processor that 'matches Intel silicon circa 2020'
Interestingly, this laptop runs openEuler – the open version of the EulerOS that Huawei created by adapting Red Hat Linux. It also runs Ding Talk – Alibaba's Zoom-and-Teams-like collaboration suite – and Libre Office.
A device that can run those packages will well and truly do the job for many Chinese knowledge workers and consumers – without relying on US tech.
Reports out of the Ecological Conference suggest another topic of conversation was a "swordless alliance" of Chinese tech companies committed to advancing the local RISC-V ecosystem.
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It's not hard to see why Chinese tech giants would want to do so: US-led sanctions mean they may never again see the most advanced silicon designs developed by the likes of Nvidia, Intel, AMD, and Arm. Creating their own alternatives may be the only way forward, and the RISC-V license gives Chinese chip shops plenty to work with.
It does the same India's techs, and indeed India has [12]prioritized developing its own RISC-V processors. So far, India has little to show for that effort, and has missed deadlines for revealing designs more sophisticated than its current [13]very modest 32-bit offerings . ®
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[7] https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/04/scaleway_risc_v_server_alibaba/
[8] https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/13/google_tpu_sifive_riscv/
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News of the forthcoming processor – dubbed the C930 – emerged at last week's Xuantie RISC-V Ecological Conference held in Shenzhen. Numerous Chinese media [1]reported that Damo reps announced the imminent debut of a processor that, like other chips cooked up by the Alibaba lab and its T-Head chip design unit, are aimed at server-class workloads. It's 2024, so that means AI is also on the agenda.
Details of the chip were not discussed.
[2]
But Damo Academy folk did discuss a new laptop called the RuyiBOOK that will run the [3]T-Head C910 . That chip, curiously, no longer appears on the chip designer's website but the Wayback Machine [4]reveals that it offered between one and four cores, a 12-stage superscalar pipeline optimized for arithmetic operations, and a design suitable for edge servers, AI, and telecoms applications.
[5]
[6]
Now it's apparently suitable for laptops, too.
[7]French cloud Scaleway starts renting Alibaba's RISC-V SoC
[8]Leaked docs hint Google may use SiFive RISC-V cores in next-gen TPUs
[9]MIPS snags top SiFive brains to amp up RISC-V business
[10]China's Loongson debuts processor that 'matches Intel silicon circa 2020'
Interestingly, this laptop runs openEuler – the open version of the EulerOS that Huawei created by adapting Red Hat Linux. It also runs Ding Talk – Alibaba's Zoom-and-Teams-like collaboration suite – and Libre Office.
A device that can run those packages will well and truly do the job for many Chinese knowledge workers and consumers – without relying on US tech.
Reports out of the Ecological Conference suggest another topic of conversation was a "swordless alliance" of Chinese tech companies committed to advancing the local RISC-V ecosystem.
[11]
It's not hard to see why Chinese tech giants would want to do so: US-led sanctions mean they may never again see the most advanced silicon designs developed by the likes of Nvidia, Intel, AMD, and Arm. Creating their own alternatives may be the only way forward, and the RISC-V license gives Chinese chip shops plenty to work with.
It does the same India's techs, and indeed India has [12]prioritized developing its own RISC-V processors. So far, India has little to show for that effort, and has missed deadlines for revealing designs more sophisticated than its current [13]very modest 32-bit offerings . ®
Get our [14]Tech Resources
[1] https://www.sohu.com/a/764141143_121200023
[2] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/systems&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2ZfrBxs0SVtuT7XcQwnUfFQAAARg&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0
[3] https://github.com/T-head-Semi/openc910
[4] https://web.archive.org/web/20240304055214/https://www.t-head.cn/product/c910
[5] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/systems&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44ZfrBxs0SVtuT7XcQwnUfFQAAARg&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0
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[7] https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/04/scaleway_risc_v_server_alibaba/
[8] https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/13/google_tpu_sifive_riscv/
[9] https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/03/mips_sifive_hires/
[10] https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/30/loongson_3a6000/
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[12] https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/29/india_risc_v_microprocessor_program/
[13] https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/26/asia_tech_news_roundup/
[14] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/
All the US is managing to do is undercut their own tech industry in the long term. The Chinese will succeed at supporting their own tech industry with their initiatives, and the products used to do so will be flooding the market with dirt-cheap Chinese hardware. Unless the US intends to completely cut themselves off from Chinese manufacturing and products, this is going to hurt Intel and AMD big time in the long run.
But politicians never have been known to take the long view; they're too busy worrying about the next election to care what happens down the road.