Trump 'tried to sell Truth Social to Musk' as SPAC deal stalled
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- News link: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2024/03/12/donald_trump_tried_to_sell/
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News of the reported offer comes from the Washington Post, which [1]cited two unnamed people with knowledge of the conversation as its sources. The talk reportedly happened during summer 2023, though the Post didn't specify when precisely the discussion took place.
Trump launched Truth Social, essentially a Mastodon [2]clone , in 2021 after being [3]kicked off Twitter following his failed insurrection attempt on January 6th, a move that Musk reversed after buying Twitter and reshaping it in his own image. Ostensibly a place for freer speech than Twitter, Truth Social launched in 2022 with plans to [4]take the platform public as soon as possible through a sale to a SPAC formed for the purpose, Digital World Acquisition Corp (DWA).
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The deal has yet to close, with the US Securities and Exchange Commission heavily [6]criticizing the use of a Chinese firm to develop DWA. By September 2022 Trump Media and Technology Group (TMTG), parent company of Truth Social, had [7]threatened to sue the SEC for delaying the TMTG/DWA merger. The deal continued to face delays and was still in trouble as of September 2023 - well after Trump had reportedly tried to offload Truth Social on Musk, who has already demonstrated a willingness to [8]pay far more than the asking price for social media sites.
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The former president's money woes have become only more severe since then, with nearly half a billion in fines and penalties being assessed in [11]two court [12]cases , with more potential penalties still to come. Getting Musk to buy Truth Social could have been a sure-fire way to fund his future, but alas - no deal was reached.
Neither Musk nor Trump have confirmed the alleged offer to The Register or anyone else. We received no response from either party, while The WaPo was told by TMTG that "We heard Trump and Musk were actually discussing buying the Washington Post but they decided it had no value."
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Musk, meanwhile, had told The Post that he had never been to Mar-a-Lago, Trump's Palm Beach, Florida residence, though that doesn't appear to be true any longer with the SpaceX billionaire reportedly [14]meeting with Trump and Republican donors at the resort-cum-Trump-castle last week.
[15]Employees saved Musk from himself over Twitter Files
[16]Trump, who tried kicking TikTok out of the US, says boo to latest ban effort
[17]The Anti Defamation League is Musk's latest excuse for Twitter's tanking ad revenue
[18]Elon Musk joins anti-Trump legal brief
Musk [19]said he doesn't intend to donate to either Trump or incumbent president Joe Biden, though as others have [20]pointed out, Musk's statement doesn't exactly close the door to indirect donations. Trump is also [21]said to have pushed for Elon Musk to speak at the upcoming Republican National Convention in July, suggesting Musk's star in the Republican party is rising.
Either way, Trump's Truth Social woes and finances might be getting a reprieve soon. The SEC [22]approved the deal last month, which could be worth up to $10 billion. Trump, who would hold more than half the shares of the combined company, would reportedly stand to raise his net worth by some $4 billion - more than enough to handle those legal problems without Musk's help. ®
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[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/03/12/trump-musk-truth-social-sale/
[2] https://help.truthsocial.com/legal/open-source/
[3] https://www.theregister.com/2021/01/09/twitter_deletes_trump_tweets/
[4] https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-technology-business-media-social-media-b89e2e49345c125d8e6832a50821948f
[5] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_offbeat/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2ZfDeilv6RYB9IAK2HkYt3gAAAMA&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0
[6] https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/12/23/trump-spac-deal-sec/
[7] https://seekingalpha.com/news/3884847-trump-social-media-company-threatens-sue-sec-delayed-dwac-spac-deal
[8] https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/25/elon_musk_buys_twitter/
[9] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_offbeat/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44ZfDeilv6RYB9IAK2HkYt3gAAAMA&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0
[10] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_offbeat/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=3&c=33ZfDeilv6RYB9IAK2HkYt3gAAAMA&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0
[11] https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4518938-trump-bond-e-jean-carroll-defamation-verdict/
[12] https://apnews.com/article/trump-fraud-carroll-fines-82d423b8e7a7f9a32470729c5f4410e5
[13] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_offbeat/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44ZfDeilv6RYB9IAK2HkYt3gAAAMA&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0
[14] https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/05/us/politics/trump-elon-musk.html
[15] https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/22/twitter_staffers_saved_musk/
[16] https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/09/trump_who_tried_kicking_tiktok/
[17] https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/05/twitter_adl_lawsuit/
[18] https://www.theregister.com/2017/02/07/elon_musk_joins_antitrump_legal_brief/
[19] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1765397025967710542
[20] https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-elon-musk-meeting-rcna142097
[21] https://www.vanityfair.com/news/trump-elon-musk-rnc
[22] https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/digital-world-shares-surge-us-regulators-clear-way-merger-with-trumps-media-firm-2024-02-15/
[23] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/
How much?
How is entity going to be worth billions? I am totally lost as to where that valuation is coming from.
Re: How much?
I utterly fail to see the value either. Twitter was stupidly over-priced and far more popular than TS, and that seems to have crashed and burned in finance as well as reputation.
Just how did they get a value such as that?
Re: How much?
There are, sadly, millions of people who are willing to give this "rich" asshole money. Money they often can't really afford, and he shouldn't need if he were as wealthy as he claims to be. If of the 70-something million people who voted for him last time, they all gave him an average of like $13, you arrive at a billion dollars if my math is correct.
But, as with anything involving the stock market, the valuation is generally a worthless figure useful only for bragging rights.
Re: How much?
I can only assume they are trying to pump up the numbers before the IPO. Trump is quite good at getting other people to invest in his failed businesses and extract millions from them.
Re: How much?
The whole point of a SPAC is to end run the IPO process. An already public company, created for the sole purpose of merging with a privately held company, merges with the privately held company and it's then instantly publicly traded. Which is why it's something I say should be outlawed, or at least very tightly regulated. There may be a few edge cases where it's the legitimately best option, but probably 99.9 times out of 100, it's going to be a bunch of grifters looking to scam gullible idiots.
Sounds exactly like something the OHSG would try.
Re: How much?
>If of the 70-something million people who voted for him last time, they all gave him an average of like $13, you arrive at a billion dollars if my math is correct.
If he follows the playbook and party membership is mandatory for government jobs. Say 20M employees all paying $30/month and 50% is kicked back to him = $300M/month, $3.6Bn/year
Re: How much?
The people who do those "How to become a" series of documentaries on Netflix should do one on how to become a world class grifter. Then, of the 5-6 people they profile for each episode, Trump and Xitler would be the capstones.
Re: How much?
Presumably at least Trump isn't planning to invade Russia in winter
Re: How much?
Truth Social never really took off as a major social network. Probably largely because its an echo chamber of like-minded people. Like-minded people who got their kicks out of upsetting people who thought differently. That doesn't really work on Truth Social as they're preaching to the converted. I also suspect its quite risky posting too much there as anti-terrorism investigators will be hoovering up every word that gets posted there to foil plans before they get too far.
It has some monetary value, though, as Truth Social is essentially a Direct Marketing goldmine. It's a self-selected dataset of extremists, useful idiots, gullible nutjobs and vulnerable people. Didn't you have to upload your ID at some point to verify identity? That will be on file.
Re: How much?
ISTR one had to be invited to join the “Truth” social. Guessing all those invited were rolling in money already. But anyhow, how does an invite-only org go public?
Re: How much?
How is entity going to be worth billions? I am totally lost as to where that valuation is coming from.
From Uranus.
No, seriously. It's social media , donchano. It's value is whatever the seller says it is.
...and we all know by now that t'pineapple has a penchant for overvaluing his ass sets [sic]....
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Trump's stature, as a consumate LOSER, just keeps growing every day. I'm sure some MAGA will be along soon. To tell us how this is another manifestation of the conspiracy of "The Deep State". Practicing their "Lawfare" against their faithful-husband of a cult-leader.
Hey Buddy... can you spare a dime (or a billion or two)
The Orange Jesus is short of the greenbacks. As he's got to come up with at least $450M in order to be able to file an appeal in the case that he lost late last month, he's getting desperate.
I'm no lover of Musk but for him to tell 'The Donald' to in the words of his wannabe VP, MTG, 'F**K off' is a good move.
Personally, I can't wait for him to be evicted from Trump Towers and for the contents to be auctioned off for 10 cents on the dollar.
Re: Hey Buddy... can you spare a dime (or a billion or two)
“Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!
But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!”
-- George Carlin
https://youtu.be/iouZYYzQEjU
Re: Hey Buddy... can you spare a dime (or a billion or two)
I've always like the Bill Hicks version of this. "Eternal hell and damnation awaits anyone who rejects God's infinite love."
Re: Hey Buddy... can you spare a dime (or a billion or two)
"Hey buddy! I'm a Christian and I don't like what you said!"
"Well then, forgive me."
Dictionary definition of circle-jerk?
It couldn't have happened to two more worthy individuals.
Sorry????
Even taking into account any raving insanity on the part of Musk (I don’t know the chap so can’t comment), WHY would he (or ANYONE) pay ANYTHING for some Trumped-up nonsense like Truth Social? What exactly would anyone be buying? Apart from ridicule
Re: Sorry????
US Navy nuclear powered super carrier = $37Bn
Replacement for USN Trident nuclear submarines = $100Bn
Owning the guy in charge of them = priceless
Obviously a Trumpist lurking in El Reg
Judging by all the downvotes.
Re: Obviously a Trumpist lurking in El Reg
There's always at least one sad bastard who's a member of the MAGA and/or Xitler cult.
Re: Obviously a Trumpist lurking in El Reg
Hmmm.
Oh to have been a fly on the wall....
"Would you like to buy my failing unprofitable social media site that's inexplicably worth billions?"
"No thanks, I've just bought one"
Trump is desperately looking for someone ...
... to shower him with gold.
Re: Trump is desperately looking for someone ...
> ... to shower him with gold ..
MI6 conspired with the Deepstate to fabricate the Steele dossier. Do we need anymore smoking guns.
[1]Newly Declassified Document Indicates FBI Misled Congress on Reliability of Steele Dossier
[1] https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/rep/releases/newly-declassified-document-indicates-fbi-misled-congress-on-reliability-of-steele-dossier
Re: Trump is desperately looking for someone ...
The Steele dossier is perfectly credible and probably misses a lot of additional details. Trump makes no mystery of his affinities with and support for Russia. Only a fraction of Maggots are still in denial.
Re: Trump is desperately looking for someone ...
Care to ever actually put your name to your shitposts you coward?
The SEC, and its various counterparts around the world, really need to outlaw this SPAC garbage. They're designed specifically to get around having to provide a lot of the investor info you'd normally need to give for an IPO. Generally the only people who would be interested in that sort of thing are shady organizations with people who are looking to cash out before they're required to file anything with the SEC and everyone else is left holding the bag.
That said, there's even more drama going on with the Truth Social SPAC. There's now one more lawsuit Trump has to deal with, alleging that he's trying to alter the terms of the deal by giving himself a larger stake in the resulting company and diluting the ownership stake of one of the major financial backers.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/01/legal-hurdles-swell-for-trumps-truth-social-deal-in-11th-hour-00144398
Why would Musk want to buy that
The only reason Trump didn't go back to Twitter when Musk unbanned him was because he wanted to keep using his own site so he could cash in. If Trump quit posting there its value would be zero. The only reason Musk would buy it is to shut it down and force Trump back to Twitter.
Its value is being propped up by the possibility he might be president again, and his rantings on that site become "official US policy" effectively, and important for historians who want to write the history of the decline of the US into an autocracy. If he loses its value plummets to near zero. Even his supporters will tire of him whining about his court cases after a while as they flail around hoping to find a replacement savior for the orange Jesus.
Re: Why would Musk want to buy that
>The only reason Musk would buy it is to shut it down and force Trump back to Twitter.
Or for the gratitude of a future president
And a ban on imported EVs and a $100K/vehicle federal subsidy for American built EVs ( only valid for companies with 5 letter names beginning with T) ?
Plus a contract for all US satellite launches for the full 1000 year Reich Presidency ?
Re: Why would Musk want to buy that
Trump doesn't outright own TS, and he has some kind of exclusivity agreement with the holding company. So, he basically can't post on Xitter without violating the terms of that contract, which then probably can strip him of his ownership stake and potentially cost him hundreds of millions when he's bleeding cash everywhere.
Re: Why would Musk want to buy that
That'll be a good story in a few years time, the FBI demanding the servers for the archives and them being in the Mar-A-Lago bathrooms.
pushed for Elon Musk to speak at the upcoming Republican National Convention
Because Elon says that he can *already* deliver an extra 20,000 thousand votes to Trump. By June these will also be fully able to navigate themselves to the polling booths without needing to be driven (a massive saving on dogs and shepherds).
These voters will also be reusable after a controlled re-entry into the booths in the neighbouring district: Musk has claimed that "he knows more about vote rigging than any human alive at this time" although this statement has been reported to have caused some friction between him and Trump.
"the use of a Chinese firm"
Sorry ?
Trump, who has been bleating about how Beijing is our enemy, imposing a ridiculous trade war and blaming China for everything he can't blame Mexica for, has used a Chinese firm for one of his shady deals ?
Wow. I would say somebody alert MAGA, but they'd have to have a brain to understand.
I almost fell off my chair ...
I misread the headline as "Trump reportedly tried to tell Truth ..." and had an attack of cognitive dissonance!