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Hold up world, HP's all-in-one print subscription's about to land, and don't forget AI PCs

(2024/02/29)


HP Ink recorded its seventh quarter of shrinking revenues as enterprise customers voted to sweat their assets for longer amid economic uncertainty, but with a new all-in-one print sub coming and AI PCs it is feeling bolder.

The world’s number one print vendor and second largest PC maker said revenues for its [1]Q1 ended 31 January , were down 4.4 percent year-on-year to $13.2 billion, and CEO Enrique Lores described the sales landscape as “volatile,” and one that continues to impact demand across our industry.”

HP CEO pay for 2023 = 270,315 printer cartridges [2]READ MORE

Analysts had estimated a topline of $13.56 billion, and so HP's shares dipped three percent in after hours trading.

The Personal Systems division was down four percent to $8.8 billion, with Consumer down one percent and Commercial down five percent. Printing was down five percent to $4.4 billion, with Consumer down 22 percent and and Commercial down 12 percent. Supplies revenue was flat.

"The external environment remains dynamic," said Lores on a [3]conference call . "In Consumer, we anticipate that a post-holiday slowdown, and this was a bit more pronounced than initially expected. Commercial customers remain cautious. While we saw signs of stabilization in the SMB and education markets, we saw a slowdown in US enterprise and federal sales, especially in the month of January."

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Taking the positives where he could find them, the CEO pointed out the rate of revenue was declining, which points to “market stabilization.”

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He added: “We're maintaining our investments in a down market to strengthen our competitive position and there are several bright spots this quarter.” Gaming PCs and “continued momentum” in Instant Ink subscriptions were among them.

According to analysts at IDC, the PC market “bottomed out” in calendar Q4 following “ [7]unprecedented consecutive declines ” since it started tracking shipments in 1995 - eight quarters of year-on-year falls.

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Concentrating on things he can control – unlike market demand – Lores said HP is “managing our mix, reducing our costs and maximizing operational efficiencies.” He said the corp is on track to deliver annual run rate structural cost savings of $1.6 billion by the end of this year.

HP reduced its overheads to $12.25 billion in Q1 versus $13.055 billion a year earlier, helping to lift net profit by 33 percent to $600 million.

Like its peers, HP is hoping for better trading conditions as the year progresses, laboring under the expectation that a Windows 11 refresh and on-device AI will breath new life into a flagging PC sector, one that swelled during the pandemic but has since collapsed amid market saturation and malaise in the economy.

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“Alongside the PC opportunity, we continue to develop new AI applications to run on top of our installed base of more than 200 million commercial devices. The best example of this is the workforce central platform,” said Lores. This was renamed to the HP Workforce Experience platform.

“It integrates data and telemetry from our PC printer and poly devices into a single dashboard to improve productivity, security and collaboration, and it is now available to all of our managed solution customers.”

Around 100 AI PCs were announced at MWC this week from all the usual players. HP, including HP, Dell and many others.

[10]HP's CEO spells it out: You're a 'bad investment' if you don't buy HP supplies

[11]IDC: AI is a solution for a PC industry with a sales problem

[12]Should leaders place bets on new PCs or generative AI?

[13]AI PC hype bubble swells, but software support lags marketing

[14]Windows 12: Savior of PC makers, or just an apology for Windows 11?

[15]HP exec says quiet part out loud when it comes to locking in print customers

Another fresh initiative is the incoming launch this week of the HP all-in subscription plan. “For a monthly fee, consumers will receive a printer in delivery, premium 24/7 support and an option to upgrade their hardware every two years. This has tested extremely well in our pilots with customer satisfaction exceeding Instant Ink's already high scores.”

HP has moved in recent years to protect its margin-rich printer supplies revenues from pesky third party cartridge manufacturers – a move that has [16]attracted the interest of lawyers .

“Despite pockets of softness in Q1, we saw signs of improvement overall,” said Lores in summary. He added that HP expects the “pace of recovery to be uneven across different segments.”

HP’s results follow those of [17]Lenovo last week, which reported growth in PC revenue after five consecutive quarters of revenue decline, and [18]Dell is due to report its financial results later today. ®

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[1] https://investor.hp.com/news/press-release-details/2024/HP-Inc.-Reports-Fiscal-2024-First-Quarter-Results/default.aspx

[2] https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/15/hp_ceo_pay_for_2023/

[3] https://seekingalpha.com/article/4674548-hp-inc-hpq-q1-2024-earnings-call-transcript

[4] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2ZeC4OOkNA7D89yBABjvczAAAANY&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0

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[7] https://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS51753924

[8] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44ZeC4OOkNA7D89yBABjvczAAAANY&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[9] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=3&c=33ZeC4OOkNA7D89yBABjvczAAAANY&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[10] https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/19/hps_ceo_spells_it_out/

[11] https://www.theregister.com/2023/10/10/idc_pc_shipments_sink_q3_2023_ai_to_rescue/

[12] https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/11/pc_sales_q2/

[13] https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/09/ai_pc_gartner/

[14] https://www.theregister.com/2023/12/23/windows_12_analysis/

[15] https://www.theregister.com/2023/12/04/hp_printer_lockin/

[16] https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/09/hp_class_action_ink/

[17] https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/26/lenovo_ai_pcs_transparent_concept/

[18] https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/26/dell_ai_pc/

[19] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



Down 4.4% ....

KittenHuffer

.... only another 95.6% to go!

------------> Mine's the one with the anti-HP coating .... and I don't mean that brown sauce doesn't stick to it!

Customers are happy with subscriptions?

Kurgan

Really? i can't believe it.

"enterprise customers voted to sweat their assets"

Gene Cash

I wonder if that should be "enterprise customers voted to run the hell away from anything HP"?

Sweating assets

David M

My 1982 HP-11C is still working fine.

Re: Sweating assets

Doctor Syntax

Maybe you should buy another to help HP's sales.

Re: My 1982 HP-11C is still working fine.

Anonymous Coward

There is a comment here that might make that HP-11C more landfill junk.

HP used to be a reputable company. I should know that I worked there for 20 years. Then the likes of Autonomy and Carly happened. Rotten to the core.

Re: Sweating assets

IvyKing

My 1973 HP45 is still working, though the batteries died decades ago. Single digit LaserJets also had the reputation of lasting forever.

I bought a HP tank printer for the wife, part of the paper feed crapped out on the original unit, being under warranty HP shipped a new printer. The wife has printed out thousands of pages, and so far I've oly spent $19 for a refill of black ink.

Re: Sweating assets

Sandtitz

"Single digit LaserJets also had the reputation of lasting forever"

Laserjet 5L and 6L were cheap shite.

AI? Subscription? NOPE!

Anonymous Coward

HP, you can keep your "only our supplies or else!" business. I'll buy my printers elsewhere.

Re: AI? Subscription? NOPE!

hedgie

Even better, for multifunction devices, the scanner stops working if you're "out of ink"[1], and even better, now requires a login to some HP site supposedly for image optimisation or other such nonsense, but who knows exactly what they're doing with the stuff you upload for no damned practical reason. And, of course, there was the hell of trying to get HP's own Linux drivers to behave. If I was going to buy a home printer for office stuff[2], I wouldn't even consider HP crap. I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't accept one for free unless it was some antediluvian laserjet that *didn't* ever phone home.

[1] And obviously, that's when the DRM chips decide when the cartridge is out, irrespective of how much actual ink is left.

[2] If I do ever buy a printer, it'd be for art photography which HP was always crap for anyway, so they'd not even be in the running if they weren't enshittified to all hell.

Re: AI? Subscription? NOPE!

Tom Chiverton 1

"HP's own Linux drivers to behave"

Ours uses the standard CUPS drivers, with no issues at all. IPP is a thing, and means you can stop caring.

Doctor Syntax

“Despite pockets of softness in Q1, we saw signs of improvement overall,”

Translation: "If we keep digging we can get out of this hole"

Memo from HP to MS

Anonymous Coward

Hey Satnad,

How about dropping all support for HP printers other than the current ones? (list attached) with the next release of W11. That means W10 as well going to an early grave which is what you want isn't it?

We are fed up spending money updating old drivers so we are going to purge our website of all old stuff.

Do we have a deal?

Yours HP.

Love is sentimental measles.