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Palantir boss says company's software the only reason the 'goose step' has not returned to Europe

(2024/02/28)


The CEO of controversial data-mining firm Palantir has claimed that the company's technology has prevented terrorist attacks in Europe, thereby implicitly saving the continent from the return of fascism.

[1]Youtube Video

The fast-talking Alex Karp took to the stage at the FII Institute conference in Miami last week to tell the audience how proud he was (from the 1:57.00 timestamp onwards) that "innumerable terror attacks" had been stopped by Palantir in Europe. "In all modesty, if they were not stopped, you would have a very different political reality in the West. And that's just a fact," he said. "I love when I'm getting yelled at in cities in Europe… Keep yelling at me... the only reason why someone's not goose-stepping between me and you is my product. Say thank you," Karp said.

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The CEO was referring to the marching style adopted by German and Italian fascists in the 20th century. From the 1920s to the 1940s, fascism came to prominence in Europe. Propelled by an ideology advocating racial purity, extreme nationalism and perpetual war, the trend culminated in the Second World War, which killed 15 million to 20 million people in Europe. German Nazis and their collaborators were responsible for the Holocaust, one of the most horrific events in human history.

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But it is software — rather than the collective cultural memory of such events — that is preventing the return of the doctrine in Europe, Karp would have the audience believe.

Pushback over privacy in Germany

As of last year, cops in several states of Germany are not allowed to use automated data analysis from Palantir, the CIA-backed surveillance software company. The Federal Constitutional Court made the ruling in [5]March 2023, calling such processing "unconstitutional."

The plaintiffs had argued that the so-called "Hessendata" program – based on Palantir's Gotham platform – facilitated "predictive" policing by profiling suspects before any crime was committed.

Palantir strategy chief Jan Hiesserich [6]told German national Handelsblatt at the time: "Our customers alone determine which data is relevant to the investigation in accordance with relevant legal provisions," adding: "Palantir brings the software to the data, not the data to the software." It told the FT that "Palantir's software can be flexibly adapted to new legal frameworks thanks to its high configurability."

Palantir was founded by Peter Thiel, who made his money and name co-founding PayPal. It attracted early investment from the US Central Intelligence Agency's venture capital arm In-Q-Tel, and won early contracts in US defense and intelligence applications of its data analytics technologies, along the way [7]supporting US Immigration and Customs Enforcement's (ICE) , which was accused of separating children from their families.

[8]Legal campaigners challenge UK.gov decision to redact NHS-Palantir contract

[9]NHS England published heavily redacted Palantir contract as festivities began

[10]Neuralink pockets extra VC cash in computer-brain interface quest

[11]Palantir bags £330M NHS data bonanza despite privacy fears

Estimates suggest that Palantir commands [12]a little less than 2 percent of the data analytics market , which is a small fraction of the total enterprise software market.

But let that not get in the way of Karp's hyperbolic fantasies.

"Look, the fundamental reason for America's outperformance right now is tech [and] Palantir plays an enormous role on the commercial side," he said.

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The [14]FII Institute , which hosted the conference during which Karp performed, is a global nonprofit foundation with an investment arm designed to make an "impact on humanity." Karp's comments would certainly make an impact on any sane listener. ®

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[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNO8N1hHIvE

[2] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_offbeat/bootnotes&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2Zd9muzoFZTNmWSs9I6Iq6AAAABE&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0

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[5] https://www.ft.com/content/790ee3ae-f0d6-4378-9093-fac553c33576

[6] https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/deutschland/verbrechensbekaempfung-bundesverfassungsgericht-schraenkt-nutzung-von-palantir-software-ein/28984322.html

[7] https://www.theregister.com/2018/06/22/amazon_staffers_protest_firms_support_of_the_surveillance_state/

[8] https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/20/legal_campaigners_challenge_government_decision/

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/02/nhs_england_published_heavily_redacted/

[10] https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/27/neuralink_funding/

[11] https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/22/palantir_wins_nhs_contract/

[12] https://6sense.com/tech/big-data-analytics

[13] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_offbeat/bootnotes&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44Zd9muzoFZTNmWSs9I6Iq6AAAABE&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[14] https://fii-institute.org/

[15] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



Anonymous Coward

Ludicrous, as if there's nothing fascistic about data profiling tech!

cyberdemon

Palantir: Providing data services to the Ministry of Truth, the Ministry of Peace, the Ministry of Plenty, and the Ministry of Love.

Without us, you would have fascism!

War is Peace, Ignorance is Strength, etc.. Freedom is Tyranny? Privacy is Fascism?

The Bobster

France is Bacon

Mob talk

elsergiovolador

In other words...

Keep paying us and let us do our thing or it would be a shame if something happened to you...

We shouldn't privatise intelligence services and policing by the backdoor.

Rikki Tikki

On a tour of the Dachau camp site, our guide explained why the old SS barracks are now used to run training seminars for the Bavarian riot police (so they can be reminded of what can happen in a totalitarian state). Maybe, just maybe, the Germans have some influence over preventing the rise of fascism.

Dr Who

What an absolute cock!

In Swiss German there's a brilliant word "Chläpfigring" which has no direct translation to English but roughly means "one whose face you have an overwhelming urge to slap". This man is definitely one of those.

heyrick

Please tell me how to correctly pronounce that!

Throatwarbler Mangrove

It's pronounced "Chläpfigring," obviously.

Evil Auditor

Brilliant! Same as Deutsche "Backpfeifengesicht"?

Amazing what you can find in NHS data for £1

Julian 8

Perhaps they are seeing there is no Aryan race data in the UK NHS data = less facism

The perfect excuse

may_i

It's always easy to make fantastic claims when the proof of the claims are hidden behind the veil of Government Secrets and will never be released in your life time.

"the only reason why someone's not goose-stepping between me and you is my product. Say thank you"

Dan 55

The cocaine is strong with this one. Allegedly.

Re: "the only reason why someone's not goose-stepping between me and you is my product. Say thank

Evil Auditor

This. Or* he forgot his medication, again.

*or, not xor

In all modesty, if they weren't stopped, you'ld have a very different political reality in the West

Howard Sway

That's not modesty, it's megalomania.

The problem with creating the Techno-Stasi is that it can of course be used just as easily to suppress people as protect them.

Re: In all modesty, if they weren't stopped...

Jedit

Please! Nobody has worked harder on their humility than he has!

Lord Elpuss

"along the way supporting US Immigration and Customs Enforcement's (ICE), which was accused of separating children from their families."

And you just.... snuck that in there. Despite it being entirely irrelevant and unconnected to the story. Like saying "...the author of this article, who once beat up a ginger kid in a playground. Anyway moving on..."

Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells

Weird that they didn't attribute this policy to the President who started that policy.

( Obama, obviously )

Anonymous Coward

This is misleading. Obama did it occasionally to save children from trafficking. The orange lunatic did it consistently to deliberately terrorise families desperate for a better life.

Anonymous Coward

Is this the 'better life' where they pay thousands to people traffickers and run the risk of death/rape pretty much every step of the way and then when they reach their destination are abandoned to live as an underclass out of sight of law and such niceties as minimum pay, working hours limits, heath and safety? Doesn't sound much better than the slave trade of old.

I saw a story that some of the people found dead in a shipping container were actually degree educated and worked relatively high profile jobs in their home country. They could have spent the money on legal migration instead and would have not died.

Anonymous Coward

why does breaking an unjust law about how to seek a better life mean someone deserves to die?

Anonymous Coward

Re-read what I typed. The people traffickers are already breaking the law so why would they care if the people they are trafficking got harmed along the way? So long as they get their money.

Anyway, the law is not unjust. Maybe the Russian soldiers just wanted a better life in Ukraine?

Dan 55

[1]Incorrect .

I won't summarise it as the article should be read in its entirety.

[1] https://archive.is/2VpWt

Avalanche

You must be new here...

Full of Karp

rgjnk

Sounds like they should be keeping him in a box, not letting him out in public spewing what passes for his thoughts.

Re: Full of Karp

Anonymous Coward

He sounds like he has the makings of a Republican presidential candidate.

KayJ

How does that quote from the Prof go? Something like "if Lord of the Rings was an allegory the lords of the West would have taken up the tool of the enemy and used it against him" - very on the nose for this bunch of chancers.

Fine Fare

Elongated Muskrat

From a man whose boss is probably* currently dressed as Father Jack at the end of the episode, "Are You Right There Father Ted?"

*in a metaphorical sense, at the very least.

anderlan

The first bit about the product protecting democracy--I don't know the market, so I was suggestible. But claiming all of tech (I thought it was a lot of green tech manufacturing) and all of American overperformance--wow. If his head gets any bigger, it'll need to be shot down off the coast of North Carolina.

Terrible Person

excperr

Like so many of his type. You shouldn't listen to anything he says.

He who denied it, Supplied it, or 21st Century Hypocrisy!

Big_Boomer

Palantir, Cambridge Analytica, and AggregateIQ were all implicated in the coordinated manipulation of public opinion in the run up to the Brexit Referendum. I am not talking about open persuasion, rather the sub-conscious manipulation of the general public in devious and underhanded ways that Adolf and Uncle Joe would have cum in their pants just thinking about. They continue in that same vein to this day backing the extreme right and "big money" at the expense of 99% of the human race in just about every election going. Them claiming to have prevented the rise of Fascism is just fucking hilarious when they are pretty much the cause of the rise of Populism/Fascism in the western world over the last 10 years.

What an arrogant prat

Will Godfrey

If this guy told me the sky was blue, I'd immediately look up to find out what colour it really was.

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