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Staff say Dell's return to office mandate is a stealth layoff, especially for women

(2024/02/20)


Exclusive Dell's "return to office" mandate has left employees confused about which offices they can use and the future of their jobs – and concerned the initiative is a stealth layoff program that will disproportionately harm women at the IT giant.

As El Reg broke [1]this month , Dell told employees they each needed to choose between resuming a hybrid work schedule – working from a corporate office part of the time – or continue working remotely. Those who chose to remain as remote workers were effectively making a career-limiting decision.

The implications of choosing to work remotely, we're told, are: "1) no funding for team onsite meetings, even if a large portion of the team is flying in for the meeting from other Dell locations; 2) no career advancement; 3) no career movements; and 4) remote status will be considered when planning or organization changes – AKA workforce reductions."

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Another employee said: "Choosing to be remote does indeed put career advancement at a standstill. If you choose to accept a promotion after going remote, that comes with the requirement of being in office 39 days out of the quarter" and you have to reclassify yourself as hybrid. The employee continued: "Even if you choose to make a lateral career move, the same expectation applies. In-role promotions are possible, but rare enough to not be a realistic option."

In the dark

Our first source told us that the new policy is ambiguous. It states that all employees must be either hybrid or remote and will have a one-time chance in March to choose their preference. But Dell is yet to provide a definitive list of approved office sites.

"February might as well become well known as the month Dell held its breath," this employee predicted.

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Another told us, "[The RTO policy] has indeed caused some turmoil internally, with leadership not being able to provide guidance of any kind. However, an internal page was quietly posted in the intranet without any fanfare that seems to communicate the offices they plan to open in Phase 1 of their rollout plan."

Yet that document, which lists 17 office locations in the US as well as internationally, indicates that those who elect hybrid work may not be able to attend the office they choose due to capacity or business function constraints.

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Dell itself appears to be uncertain about the office space it has available, as demonstrated by an unusual dictum in the location memo: "Note: Do not Google or show up at Dell locations/offices that you have not previously gained access to and expect to have access to that Dell location."

[6]Dell said to be preparing broad Return To Office order this Monday

[7]Dell planning job cuts as PC demand jumps off a cliff

[8]Infosys co-founder doubles down on call for 70-hour work weeks

[9]Remember that day in 2020 when you were asked to get the business working from home – by tomorrow?

Our second source explained that, based on conversations with colleagues, Dell appears not to have a full list of offices that it owns or can access. "After the policy was announced, I and other team members frantically searched for the nearest office, since Dell was not providing that information in any capacity," we're told. "However, some of those buildings are either no longer owned by Dell or they have moved out."

Those offices would show up if employees searched for them. "The request not to Google and visit locations that aren't in that list is likely to [exercise] further control of employee locations," according to our source.

"Despite this information, leaders are still not confident that this will last long, as major metropolitan areas previously known to house large cultural pillars of the brand (Miami, New York City, etc.) are absent from this list," our second source said. "Given execs are now required to be in the office, it is upsetting folks throughout the company. Several VPs are in areas not present on that list, so I doubt this new policy will last longer than a year."

The official date for the opt-in election is March 7.

Stealth layoffs?

"Many believe this is a plan to force resignations so as to not pay severance packages," our second source alleged. "Then once the dust settles there [may be] a relaxation of the policy."

The other employee who spoke to us said the RTO mandate upends more than 15 years of accommodating remote work at Dell. Under that policy, articulated in [10]a company memo [PDF] that appears to date from [11]early 2021 , 65 percent of Dell Technologies employees enjoyed flexible work arrangements. In 2020, founder Michael Dell suggested working from home would [12]become a permanent fixture of life at Dell.

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We're told that for the last 15 years Dell has made workers’ location a matter for their managers to decide. That flexibility helped the biz to acquire quality talent and boosted employee loyalty.

"These employees are the backbone of this company, which includes chiefs of staff, transformation leads, program managers, and much more," our first source explained. "Their years of service provide deep institutional knowledge, which has not only helped expedite decision making but has also reduced cost over the years."

This new policy on its face appears to be anti-remote, but in practice will be anti-woman. Anti-woman for career advancement. Anti-woman for bonus calculations next year

Our first source cited personal experience of the return-to-office order's impact and told us only two men were affected, compared to 29 women. Our source made calculations about the impact using internal data, and suggested women will bear the brunt of the RTO mandate.

"Per sample data pulled, this group is disproportionately female," with women whose partners serve in the military perhaps especially impacted as life in uniform often means relocation.

Dell has a program [14]to recruit military service personnel and their spouses.

"This new policy on its face appears to be anti-remote, but in practice will be anti-woman," our first source said. "Anti-woman for career advancement. Anti-woman for bonus calculations next year."

Of those adversely affected, most have more than eight years of experience at Dell and most are 40–55 year old women, we're told. Dell normally pays out severance to workers let go, but those who resign don't get such payments.

Employee departures – particularly among those with some seniority and higher salaries – may be where Dell aims to save money. Research suggests bringing remote workers into corporate offices [15]doesn't boost profits.

We're told the lack of consideration for the policy's impact on women isn't surprising, given the lack of women in Dell's executive ranks.

"With all of the talk of trying to promote females to leadership, Dell is still a boy's club," our first source remarked. "This new policy will only hurt this situation further."

Our other source agreed with this claim. "In my tenure here, Dell has always given the short end of the stick to women, so that does not surprise me."

"You can also see it in the new parent (maternity/paternity leave) policies. Male employees can come back to do the same job again, whereas female employees are guaranteed a job when they return, but there is no guarantee it will be the same one they had when they left."

A billion is not enough

Our first source suggested financial concerns have motivated the RTO mandate. "We had an unbelievable year 2020–2022 … everyone bought extra and early. But our stuff lasts three to five years."

Our second source reckoned that assessment appears accurate. "Units are moving very slowly, and maybe reaching ten percent of expectations – both for new products as well as additional configs."

In November, Dell [16]reported Q3 fiscal 2024 revenue of $22.3 billion – down ten percent year-over-year. Profits were healthy, however, at over $1 billion for the quarter, a 317 percent year on year rise.

Those who spoke to us expressed frustration with the way Dell management has handled the RTO mandate, citing the inconsistency of managerial messaging in group settings and in private, lack of accommodations for individual circumstances, and disinterest in employee needs.

Our second source admitted it's not confidence inspiring to see not only employees, but managers and VPs departing.

There is little sympathy for folks who moved out of metropolitan areas during the pandemic, which Dell encouraged and supported

"Many calls are tense as we are all aware of the turmoil, and feel as if we are going to be on the chopping block," this person explained. "We all continue working slowly, and absorbing as much as we can, as no one knows who will be here next week, or who will be responsible for picking up the pieces.

"Dell has communicated they plan to get below 100K employees, which seems fairly arbitrary as we continue to cut costs somewhere and 'do more with less' as many leaders parrot that mantra. VPs to new grads, no one is safe from the unemployment hammer, only to reenter the workforce in one of the worst job markets in recent history. There is little sympathy for folks who moved out of metropolitan areas during the pandemic, which Dell encouraged and supported.

Tax breaks

"Reading between the lines of the RTO mandate, 'local laws and policies' are mentioned publicly and in multiple calls. This can be traced back to the tax breaks the business receives at the state level for having a certain capacity in different offices. This is what likely drove the specific locations that are called out in the new guidance on metros that are available.

"The company is also calling for AI to reinvigorate sales from B2B to gaming, but has seen little lift on consumer purchases (seen by the reduced finances mentioned). Each new memo on the RTO continues to bring AI into the conversation; positioning the solutions as bleeding edge, meanwhile the house is barely being held together internally."

The Register asked Dell to address the claims made by our sources about the impact of the policy change and its rationale.

A Dell spokesperson replied that the computer corp had nothing to say beyond the statement provided for our previous story earlier this month: "We shared with team members our updated hybrid work policy. Team members in hybrid roles will be onsite at a Dell Technologies office at least 39 days per quarter (on average three days a week). In today's global technology revolution, we believe in-person connections paired with a flexible approach are critical to drive innovation and value differentiation." ®

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[6] https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/03/dell_return_to_work/

[7] https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/06/dell_job_cuts/

[8] https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/15/narayana_murthy_long_work_comments/

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2021/03/08/covid_logfile_wfh_part_one/

[10] https://corporate.delltechnologies.com/content/dam/delltechnologies/assets/whoweare/resources/dell-technologies-flexible-work-policy.pdf

[11] https://web.archive.org/web/20210116131556/https://corporate.delltechnologies.com/content/dam/delltechnologies/assets/whoweare/resources/dell-technologies-flexible-work-policy.pdf

[12] https://www.crn.com/news/security/michael-dell-work-from-home-will-be-permanent-feature

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[14] https://www.dell.com/en-us/blog/dell-technologies-supports-our-veterans/

[15] https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/02/return_to_office_mandates_do_not_boost_profits/

[16] https://investors.delltechnologies.com/static-files/7b3bae55-4f43-4a24-94fc-188d8cb3cd4e

[17] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



Wouldn't suprise me

steviebuk

Companies will try anything they can to convince people to just quit instead so then they don't have to pay them any redundancy pay.

Re: Wouldn't suprise me

IGotOut

That's why grown up countries have "constructive dismissal" on the books

DimeCadmium

> Our first source cited personal experience of the return-to-office order’s impact and told us two men were impacted, compared to 29 women

So what she's saying is, her team is already overwhelmingly sexist in favor of females, and therefore any changes disproportionately affects females, and somehow that makes those changes sexist against females?

"sexist in favor of females"

diodesign

"two men were impacted, compared to 29 women"

Dell is so sexist in favor of women that the majority of the cited group affected by RTO were, er, women. Think you've misunderstood bigly.

C.

Re: "sexist in favor of females"

DimeCadmium

I don't know if you know this but Dell has a lot more than 31 employees.

Re: "sexist in favor of females"

aerogems

First rule of holes: if you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.

Re: "sexist in favor of females"

DimeCadmium

I didn't find myself in a hole, I found myself faced with people who can't comprehend that the fact she's referencing a total of 31 people means she either cherry-picked it or is referring to only her team.

In the first case it's obviously misleading FUD that I doubt the reg would have printed, and in the second case it says that only 2 people in a team of 31 are male.

In either case it doesn't show any sexism against women.

Re: "sexist in favor of females"

aerogems

That's not Superman you see flying way up high in the sky, it's the point you continue to miss.

cornetman

What's probably more likely is that the majority of those that need to work remotely have child-based commitments which are disproportionately women by and large (school runs, entertaining them while school is out etc) rather than anything related to workforce representation, although I don't know what the situation is in Dell in the affected departments.

> "This new policy on its face appears to be anti-remote, but in practice will be anti-woman," our first source said. "Anti-woman for career advancement. Anti-woman for bonus calculations next year."

This seems a bit of a stretch. They are trying to imply the claim that Dell are trying to get rid of women disproportionately, but it seems unlikely to me, and much more likely to be a side effect of what they doing, as wrong-headed as it is anyway.

DimeCadmium

> women by and large (school runs, entertaining them while school is out etc)

Sorry, how can you do that while you're working? Oh right, you can't. I'm also not sure what that has to do with being female, to be honest, other than... you know... sexism (of the kind that ensures women get sole custody in the vast majority of divorces, for example).

cornetman

The main issue for people who have child care responsibilities is that they tend to work flexibly. We have quite a few parents where I work and their working remotely also affords them some flexible working time arrangements. So they duck out and pick up the kids from school but then work later into the evening. It wouldn't really suit me but for them it means that they can work when they might otherwise be not able to.

Bit difficult to do that when you have to be in an office location that you must commute to.

But it's also a fact that more women than men take on that responsibility. Actually that's not true with my co-workers that are mostly men, but anecdotally, it seems that this is still the case in many instances.

DimeCadmium

Ah yes, they work later into the evening, while "entertaining" their kids.

I too have flexible working arrangements: occasionally I take a lunch and go do something with my family. Heck, sometimes I even head out for a few hours to take them to the doctor, since I'm the only one who drives. Working in an office (how do you do that without commuting?) doesn't prevent that.

What you're *actually* saying is that people who work remotely can slack off and work several hours less than agreed upon without their superiors being any the wiser, and they can't do that as easily if they're in an office. Which is true, but also cause for termination.

I'm frankly not sure why this is even relevant. The article doesn't say "2 men would have to seek alternate child care arrangements". It says 2 men would be impacted. Every person - man or woman - who is currently working remotely is impacted by this change. So... you keep going off on your irrelevant tangents. Have fun.

aerogems

Someone's going to die a virgin, or at least have to pay for it.

Ace2

Brutal. Accurate, but brutal.

Youngone

It was his use of "females" that tipped you off wasn't it?

DimeCadmium

Nope, got a kid and a wife, but thanks for the personal attack, it makes it really easy to tell when people have a peabrain

aerogems

Mail order brides are still a thing, eh?

DimeCadmium

Nope, but thanks for continuing to show everyone how incapable you are of comprehending basic numbers like "31" and "133,000"

aerogems

Just... whoosh. Go reread my comment about the first rule of holes and keep rereading it until the wisdom if it sinks in for you and your sock puppet account.

Career advancement

elsergiovolador

Career advancement - what does that even mean today?

worker> Hun! I got promoted to a senior developer position!!!

worker's partner> Oh that's so great sweetie! Does it mean we'll finally go on holiday?

worker> Uhmm... I don't know. I'll have a lot of more work. They took onboard a lot of fresh people and I am supposed to mentor them on top of the things I already do.

worker's partner> But they got you a pay rise?

worker> Uhmm... so I got extra ten grand, but you know after taxes that wouldn't be much so I decided to put this into my pension.

worker's partner> Right. Can you say no? I mean at least we had more time for ourselves? You say you'll have to work more...

worker> I don't know, there is talk about layoffs... I don't want to rock the boat.

worker's partner> Just great. Oh I see a gray hair! Yup at least you look senior.

Sueball Time

aerogems

This is why the US needs more unions, or at least stronger labor regulations. This sort of shit should not be legal. At the barest minimum, if you're going to mandate staff work from an office, you should be required to make sure each and every employee has their own dedicated desk. None of this hotdesking bullshit, or other things that I swear are going to cause an American spinoff of the French Revolution targeting corporate royalty if they keep pushing like this.

Once upon a time in this country, employers treated employees with respect. Loyalty was rewarded with things like a pension and the fabled gold watch when you retire. Now, the only real way you ever get a raise of any significance is by moving to another company, and all that institutional knowledge goes with you. So, companies are slowly hollowed out and forget how to do a lot of things. The new company also tends to have to eat about half a year's salary on new hires before they're up to speed and actually being productive enough to justify their position.

Someone, or multiple someones, at Dell need to launch a sueball. If they can to discovery, I'm betting there are plenty of very interesting emails in top exec inboxes. Along the lines of IBM's "dinobabies" emails. I'd also try filing complaints with the NLRB and EEOC on the grounds that 1) they're attempting to alter the terms and conditions of employment -- I've never seen an employment contract that explicitly states where the work needs to be done -- and 2) the idea that this will disproportionately affect women. Might be an uphill battle to get either agency to take the case, but seems worth a try. Might also lump in the SEC and DOL, saying this is an effort to end run the WARN Act, thus is a form of market manipulation.

Tax incentives

Androidal

Dell, like other companies, has tax incentive agreements they have to live up to. One of parameters that is measured is how much "foot-traffic" they will generate for the local economies surrounding let's say the campus in Round Rock. Now that the pandemic is essentially over, local municipalities, governments want Dell and others to fulfill their obligations. Problem is, the world of work has changed. Some compromises are going to have to made in order to keep everyone happy. Hopefully, Dell will not shoot themselves, in the foot, so to speak, but that remain to be seen.

What are they good at?

Georgski

Our org is not buying any more Dell as, on top of build quality declining, they aren't even getting the selling bit right? Often we have ordered laptops, had long waits, and then the arrived spec is different (eg wrong Windows licence). Sometimes the laptop immediately requires service repair.

Can't think that this cackhanded approach to layoffs is going to turn them around.

Reverse Jean-Luc Picard management

Kevin McMurtrie

Picard hears a good solution from his crew then says, "Make it so!"

Management comes up with a dumb idea then says the same. Staff is left to figure out how, and wonder if they should still proceed against all common sense.

Also called an "executive order" if you're The Florida Man.

Re: Reverse Jean-Luc Picard management

aerogems

To be fair, if common sense actually existed, a lot of things would never happen. People often conflate common sense with good sense.

Growing up I heard stories about a local doctor who would order a really invasive procedure for himself once a year. Not because it was in any way medically necessary, but because he wanted to make sure he knew what he'd be putting his patients through and not order that procedure for any of them lightly. These days, top executives at companies are generally completely divorced from the average employee. They have their own private entrances, with private elevators, which are set up so they have as short a distance as possible to mingle with the unwashed masses. There may not even be a way to get to the C-Suite from the rest of the building, or the door only opens one way. It's never going to happen that the CEO of Dell finds himself in the same elevator with some low level employee at the Dell campus. They isolate themselves so much that these sorts of stupid ideas are inevitable. Humans are social creatures, and we rely on one another to keep us grounded. Just like the farmer who lives miles away from their nearest neighbor can start to develop some "interesting" ideas about the world, the same goes for people who intentionally isolate themselves from anyone except cronies, sycophants, and general hangers on. People who will only tell them how great they are, never how bad an idea is. I'm sure every secretary/PA for every Fortune 500 CEO regularly scans their inbox and deletes any messages that somehow manage to slip through that might be critical of the boss. Of course, usually the rank and file can't directly email (or communicate in any other way with) the CEO anyway. We've seen how this story ends plenty of times before. The closing years of 18th century France being a particularly good example.

If a Fortune 500 CEO had to actually work like a regular employee, I bet they wouldn't make it a month. It's easy to say everyone should work from the office when your office is roughly the same square footage as the average employee dwelling. When everyone comes to you for meetings, and you have someone whose whole job is to organize your calendar. You have people who run all your errands, you don't have to use a communal restroom, seeing and/or smelling the delightful "gifts" your coworkers sometimes leave behind. You don't have to smell it when someone decides to microwave fish in the breakroom, and plenty of other little perks. If everyone had those kinds of working conditions, working from the office would probably be pretty popular. If the Dell CEO had to hotdesk in an open floor plan layout every day with all the other working plebs, along with all of the other things they expect the rest of us to put up with, I'm very confident that they wouldn't last a month. Probably not even a week. I'm reminded of a vintage BOFH story where the boss gets demoted to Simon's job, and Simon becomes the boss, and after a few days of dealing with users, the boss is the new BOFH.

Sucks to be a medieval tech company

HuBo

Office work is such an archaic concept in the contemporary IT world where appropriately developed tech fosters fast networking from arbitrary geographical locations, virtual presence and meetings. It is certainly sold as such to customers, and is the source of most major revenues for field players. Mandating RTO for promotion is just an admission of complete and utter failure at being a high-tech company IMHO. Might as well fold, DELL.

Your reasoning is excellent -- it's only your basic assumptions that are wrong.