UK splashes £4B to dive into next-gen nuclear submarines
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- News link: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2023/10/03/aukus_submarine_contracts/
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[1]According to the government , the deal represents a significant milestone for the UK and the AUKUS program. It will progress the design, prototyping, and purchase of long-lead components for the first UK submarines.
Construction is expected to begin in the next few years, with the first submarines entering service in the late 2030s, replacing the Astute-class vessels. The first Australian submarines will follow in the early 2040s.
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AUKUS is a technology-sharing pact signed by Australia, the United Kingdom, and the United States. [3]It was signed off in 2021 , and a substantial chunk of the pact is help for Australia from the US and UK to build nuclear-powered submarines.
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The Astute-Class submarines were constructed at Barrow-in-Furness, and the UK's SSN-AUKUS submarines will follow suit. Over the coming years, infrastructure at the UK's Barrow-in-Furness submarine shipyard will be developed and expanded to meet the program's requirements.
The nuclear reactors powering the submarines for the UK and Australia will be constructed at Rolls Royce's Raynesway site in Derby. Australia is expected to build up its submarine industrial base over the coming decade before making its own boats.
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Ministry beancounters will be fervently hoping to avoid seeing a repeat of the delays and cost overruns that plagued the Astute class during the early part of the construction phase. A [10]report [PDF] from the House of Commons Defence Committee in 2010 put the cost of boats 1-3 of the Astute Class at £1.355 billion ($1.636 billion) over budget and delayed by 57 months.
It has been a while since the UK last had a crack at building nuclear-powered submarines. The predecessor of the Astute class was the Trafalgar class, designed during the 1970s, with the final boat completed in 1991. At the time of writing, the last Astute class submarines have yet to be commissioned.
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So there's a silver lining to all the delays endured by the previous generation. At least there won't be quite the same gap before construction of the first AUKUS class submarine in the UK, and we're sure plenty of lessons will be fresh in the memory of BAE Systems.
Perhaps this time the trend for these projects to experience cost overruns and delays will be bucked. [12]Or perhaps not . ®
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[1] https://www.gov.uk/government/news/4-billion-uk-contracts-progresses-aukus-submarine-design
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[3] https://www.theregister.com/2021/09/16/aukus_defence_pact/
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[6] https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/28/darpa_underwater_drone/
[7] https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/22/oceangate_titanic_titan_sub_implosion/
[8] https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/20/missing_titanic_submarine/
[9] https://www.theregister.com/2021/09/16/aukus_defence_pact/
[10] https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmselect/cmdfence/99/99.pdf
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[12] https://www.theregister.com/2017/02/01/hms_queen_elizabeth_delayed_mod_admits/
[13] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/
Re: £4bn here, £4bn there...
You could get a couple of miles of HS2 track for that!
Re: £4bn here, £4bn there...
A few hundred feet more like with those HS2 consultancy rates!
Re: £4bn here, £4bn there...
I think you'll find it would actually only be another 6ft.
Re: £4bn here, £4bn there...
I think £4bn would get you 8 miles of HS2 (approximately) although almost certainly not the final 8 miles into Euston.
Continuity of workload
This should actually be good for continuity of workload (and hence, one would hope, efficiency).
I believe the Barrow yard now has a clear work schedule of last few Astutes - The Dreadnoughts (the SLBM carriers) - then the AUKUS boats.
This is the sort of long term work load that enables businesses to make sensible decisions on investment, training, etc, which we tend to call out for in his country, as opposed to the short term - '5 years is a long time' type planning we tend to muddle through with.
Re: Continuity of workload
I came here to mention the Dreadnought class, but in my heart I knew it would have been said already.
Re: Continuity of workload
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Nomenclature
Don't we Brits still call these "fleet submarines"?
Hidden Submarine service 2 London from Scotland?
...first we build a big tunnel.
These do seem a lot cheaper than trains though.
Re: Hidden Submarine service 2 London from Scotland?
> build a big tunnel.
No, no need for that - what do you think all those canals are for!
Hyper-slosh 2! Look at the bow-wave on that!
(Ok, so the trans-pennine locks might benefit from an upgrade, I admit.)
Re: Hidden Submarine service 2 London from Scotland?
Pity that those canals don't go much farther north than Lancaster/Carnforth area. That canal did once get to Kendal but... the M6 is AFAIK built on top of part of that bit.
Then there is the width and height restrictions. Narrow Boats were named for a reason you know.
AUKUS
Those Australian subs.
Probably never happen.
They were arranged under a previous desperate government.
Donald the wrecker Trump is too flaky to honour the agreement.
Also, many Aussies don’t want the expense.
UK thinking ahead
I, for one applaud the decision to do this
it shows we are committed to the future of our defence, from a Naval POV at least
now we just need to man up and sort the appalling levels of manpower and kit in the Army
maybe the RAF could rough it in 4* for a few years to cover costs on the new Gen6 fighters ? :o)
possibly the Royal Marines could make their LBD's last an extra season ? every little helps :o)
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and I AM allowed to make merry at the expense of the RM's, as got family who were in there, until, of course, they figure who TF I am, then I will probably end up slightly bruised LOL
Re: UK thinking ahead
All very well, but I'll wager that most of the expenditure will end up lining the coffers of companies anywhere but "AUK".
(That also presumes the end-product even works as specified...)
£4bn here, £4bn there...
...pretty soon it adds up to real money.