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The clock is ticking and Korea wants to know if its chipmakers will get their export license extension

(2023/09/22)


South Korean and US officials met this week to discuss the future of Chinese export controls as the clock ticks down on exceptions enjoyed by Samsung and SK hynix.

In a meeting with US deputy secretary of commerce Don Graves in Seoul on Friday, South Korea's industry minister Bang Moon-kyu [1]asked the US to clarify the future of export controls that limit the semiconductors that can enter and/or exit China.

According to Korea's Ministry of Trade, Industry and Energy, the two governments "agreed to continue cooperation."

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Graves [3]reportedly said the US will "do everything" to make sure South Korean firms can continue to conduct legitimate business.

[4]SK hynix vice-chair denies selling to Huawei, calls for memory probe

[5]So what if China has 7nm chips now, there's no Huawei it can make them 'at scale'

[6]Korea's FTC fines Broadcom $14.3M for pushing 'unfair' deal onto Samsung

[7]Washington left with chip on shoulder after Huawei exposes export loophole lapses

The controls, [8]introduced in October 2022, restrict the export to China of software and equipment used to produce DRAM chips below 18nm, NAND silicon over 128 layers, or logic processors below 14nm.

The same month the bans were introduced, Korean chipmakers Samsung and SK hynix were among those [9]granted a one-year exemption.

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When the bans went into effect, 25 percent of SK hynix's – and 38 percent of Samsung's – NAND wafer production was [12]reportedly produced in China, along with 50 percent of SK hynix's DRAM.

The waivers allowed the two South Korean chipmakers, the world's leading sources of memory, to continue to supply equipment to their Chinese fabs without a licensing agreement.

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What happened once the year-long exceptions ended was, and remains, a mystery, although South Korea's then-minister for industry Lee Chang-yang [14]said in May 2023 that he believed an extension was likely.

China is believed to be feeling the squeeze caused by US export controls, even as it finds workarounds.

Taiwan's United Daily News [15]reported on Thursday that NAND flash capacity at China's Yangtze Storage is booked up for the next six months. NAND prices have reportedly surged in China in the face of choked supply chains. Releases of new smartphones – such as Huawei's Mate 60 Pro – haven't helped matters.

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The phone itself has caused a [17]stir as it was believed that China did not have the capacity to produce the 7nm system-on-chip within the device.

A teardown of the Mate 60 Pro [18]revealed it contained export-restricted LPDDR5 memory chips from SK hynix. The chip shop [19]denied it had done business with Huawei. ®

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[1] https://www.motie.go.kr/motie/ne/presse/press2/bbs/bbsView.do?bbs_seq_n=167859&bbs_cd_n=81&currentPage=1&search_key_n=&cate_n=&dept_v=&search_val_v=

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[3] https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20230922002100320?input=rss&section=k-biz/corporate

[4] https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/18/sk_hynix_vicechair_denies_selling/

[5] https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/19/huaweis_advanced_chip_sparks_us/

[6] https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/21/broadcom_receives_143_million_fine/

[7] https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/12/us_huawei_chip_sanctions/

[8] https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/07/biden_china_chips/

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/13/sk_hynix_china_chip_reprieve/

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[12] https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-samsung-sk-hynix-be-spared-brunt-china-memory-chip-crackdown-sources-2022-10-06/

[13] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/systems&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44ZQ1lw-MgRGkWJeoNiBDtiQAAAII&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[14] https://www.theregister.com/2023/05/10/us_likely_to_extend_sk/

[15] https://udn.com/news/story/7333/7453854

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[17] https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/12/us_huawei_chip_sanctions/

[18] https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/12/us_huawei_chip_sanctions/

[19] https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/18/sk_hynix_vicechair_denies_selling/

[20] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



So, China makes the DRAM

Pascal Monett

Once again, first-world short-sightedness comes back to bite us in the rear. Ah, the days when top-level executives gave themselves massive bonuses for having outsourced a chip fab to China . . good times, eh ?

Well now here we are, restricting China from exporting the production from the tools we put in their hands. And when we put those tools in their hands, China was already the despotic regime it is now.

Ah yes, but money. Money now, worry about the consequences later.

There's a lesson here, somewhere. I wonder who will learn it ?

The temperature of Heaven can be rather accurately computed from available
data. Our authority is Isaiah 30:26, "Moreover, the light of the Moon
shall be as the light of the Sun and the light of the Sun shall be sevenfold,
as the light of seven days." Thus Heaven receives from the Moon as much
radiation as we do from the Sun, and in addition seven times seven (49) times
as much as the Earth does from the Sun, or fifty times in all. The light we
receive from the Moon is one ten-thousandth of the light we receive from the
Sun, so we can ignore that. With these data we can compute the temperature
of Heaven. The radiation falling on Heaven will heat it to the point where
the heat lost by radiation is just equal to the heat received by radiation,
i.e., Heaven loses fifty times as much heat as the Earth by radiation. Using
the Stefan-Boltzmann law for radiation, (H/E)^4 = 50, where E is the absolute
temperature of the earth (~300K), gives H as 798K (525C). The exact
temperature of Hell cannot be computed, but it must be less than 444.6C, the
temperature at which brimstone or sulphur changes from a liquid to a gas.
Revelations 21:8 says "But the fearful, and unbelieving ... shall have their
part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone." A lake of molten
brimstone means that its temperature must be at or below the boiling point,
or 444.6C (Above this point it would be a vapor, not a lake.) We have,
then, that Heaven, at 525C is hotter than Hell at 445C.
-- "Applied Optics", vol. 11, A14, 1972