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James Webb spies distant exoplanet that could be wet, wild, and Hycean

(2023/09/12)


The James Webb Space Telescope continues to deliver the goods with scientists publishing insights into the atmospheric properties of a habitable-zone exoplanet.

The planet in question is the snappily named K2-18 b, which orbits the dwarf star K2-18. It lies 120 light-years away in the constellation Leo and is approximately 8.6 times the size of Earth.

Data from the NASA/ESA/CSA space telescope [1]has indicated the presence of carbon-bearing molecules in the planet's atmosphere, including methane and carbon. The findings add further weight to theories that K2-18 b could be a Hycean exoplanet.

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Hycean is a portmanteau of hydrogen and ocean that describes a hypothetical type of planet. As well as K2-18 b, TOI-1231 b is also a potential candidate, but the evidence points toward the former possessing a hydrogen-rich atmosphere and a water-covered surface.

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The European Space Agency (ESA) noted: "The abundance of methane and carbon dioxide, and shortage of ammonia, support the hypothesis that there may be an ocean underneath a hydrogen-rich atmosphere on K2-18 b."

Some astronomers believe that Hycean worlds could harbor life or at least be promising environments in the search for life.

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Nikku Madhusudhan, an astronomer at the [6]University of Cambridge and lead author of the paper announcing these results, said: "Traditionally, the search for life on exoplanets has focused primarily on smaller rocky planets, but the larger Hycean worlds are significantly more conducive to atmospheric observations."

Exoplanets such as K2-18 b present a challenge since our solar system has nothing like them. Their size puts them between the Earth and Neptune, and, according to ESA, "the nature of their atmospheres is a matter of active debate between astronomers."

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As for how the team could discern the composition of the atmosphere, the sensitivity of the James Webb Space Telescope meant that astronomers could determine the gases using only the fraction of starlight that passed through the atmosphere during a transit across its host star.

Madhusudhan said: "For comparison, one transit observation with Webb provided comparable precision to eight observations with Hubble conducted over a few years and in a relatively narrow wavelength range."

The Canadian NIRISS and European NIRSpec instruments aboard the telescope were used in the observations, and additional research with the Mid-InfraRed Instrument (MIRI) spectrograph is planned.

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The initial observations also showed up a possible detection of dimethyl sulphide (DMS), a molecule associated with life on Earth. Most of the DMS in Earth's atmosphere comes from phytoplankton in marine environments.

That said, researchers were at pains to note that the evidence pieced together so far does not necessarily mean the planet could support life. The ocean – if present – could, for example, simply be too hot to be habitable.

"Our ultimate goal is the identification of life on a habitable exoplanet, which would transform our understanding of our place in the universe," concluded Madhusudhan. "Our findings are a promising step towards a deeper understanding of Hycean worlds in this quest." ®

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[1] https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Space_Science/Webb/Webb_discovers_methane_and_carbon_dioxide_in_atmosphere_of_K2-18_b

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[6] https://people.ast.cam.ac.uk/~nmadhu/Nikku_Madhusudhan/Home.html

[7] https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/22/lp8909c_webb_experiment/

[8] https://www.theregister.com/2023/05/18/astronomers_spot_new_earthsized_exoplanet/

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2023/05/09/webb_fomalhaut_belts/

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[12] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



Interesting assertion

DJO

The ocean – if present – could, for example, simply be too hot to be habitable.

Presumably there's a high atmospheric pressure so the boiling point at the surface is going to be considerably higher than 100°C but I don't see why that should preclude life. There are plenty of Earth critters living and thriving around hydrothermal vents where the temperatures well exceed 100°C.

You are all aware of the Weak Anthropic Principle - "The world is the way it is because if it wasn't we wouldn't be here to observe it". That does not mean there cannot be a Weak K2-18 biesian Principle too. Living in their endless hot sea, the idea that life could exist on a (relatively) cold planet with large landmasses would seem absurd.

Re: Interesting assertion

DS999

Not only that but many scientists believe life on Earth first evolved around deep ocean volcanic vents, so hot water under immense pressure may be an ideal environment for life to get started.

Danger, Will Robinson!

AnotherName

With a hydrogen atmosphere, let's hope they don't discover fire -->

Re: Danger, Will Robinson!

Andy Non

Without oxygen present in the atmosphere you couldn't cause a fire, let alone an explosion. You can have hydrogen in large quantities or oxygen in large quantities but not both at the same time.

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-- Colonel Klink falls for Colonel Hogan's flattery.
-- One of the prisoners sneaks out of camp (one shot for each prisoner to go).
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if it's one of our heroes on the other end).
-- One of the Germans is threatened with being sent to the Russian front.
-- Corporal Newkirk calls up a German in his phoney German accent, and
tricks him (two shots if it's Colonel Klink).
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-- Colonel Klink relates how he's never had an escape from Stalag 13.
-- Sergeant Schultz gives up a secret (two shots if he's bribed with food).
-- The prisoners listen to the Germans' conversation by a hidden transmitter.
-- Sergeant Schultz "captures" one of the prisoners after an escape.
-- Lebeau pronounces "colonel" as "cuh-loh-`nell".
-- Carter builds some kind of device (two shots if it's not explosive).
-- Lebeau wears his apron.
-- Hogan says "We've got no choice" when someone claims that the plan is
impossible.
-- The prisoners capture an important German, and sneak him out the tunnel.