Cruise self-driving taxi gets wheels stuck in wet cement
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- News link: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2023/08/16/cruise_selfdriving_taxi_gets_stuck/
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Reports coming from both [1]local media and [2]social media on Tuesday show the front tires of a Cruise car sunk deeply into a drying part of fresh-patched road at a construction site on Golden Gate Avenue between Fillmore and Steiner Streets in San Francisco.
"It thinks it's a road and it ain't, because it ain't got a brain and it can't tell that it's freshly poured concrete," resident Paul Harvey told SFGate.
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Harvey, who provided a photo of the situation, had a good point: a human eye may notice the contrast of the different textures on the road alongside orange cones and make proper assumptions, but the similar color tones between the street and wet cement could easily confuse AI.
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The Reg contacted Cruise to get a better understanding of the incident and will report back if there is a substantial reply.
According to [6]the company’s social media, the vehicle was removed before its blunder was, ahem, cemented.
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Other blunders from Cruise this week include allegedly almost [8]hitting two women accompanying two children to cross a street and a [9]10 car pile up following the Outside Lands music festival. Cruise [10]explained that the festival created wireless bandwidth constraints that delayed connectivity for its vehicles.
"We are actively investigating and working on solutions to prevent this from happening again. We apologize to those who were impacted," it added.
[11]Pack of GM Cruise robo-taxis freeze, snarl up Friday night traffic amid festival crowds
[12]US Air Force burns more money on electric flying taxis
[13]California rolls closer to requiring drivers in driverless trucks
[14]Cruise emits software fix after self-driving car slams into bus
Cruise's account on the website formerly known as Twitter is full of responses to mishaps.
On August 11, the company [15]responded to a jam with details that its "AV waited for another car to complete a U-turn before continuing past the emergency vehicles." In that scenario, it claimed the interruption was shortlived – roughly one minute, with no blocking of emergency medical vehicle access.
Just a day before, a disabled Cruise car blocking traffic was being "actively monitored" with the company working to resolution, according to [16]Cruise. These scenarios are why police, fire fighters, and other city agencies opposed the California Public Utilities Commission's [17]decision to allow expanded hours for Cruise taxis.
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Before the commission vote, Cruise was allowed to operate its automated vehicles without a human safety driver in certain parts of San Francisco from 2200 to 0600 and with a driver anywhere anytime in the city. The company told commissioners it was already operating 300 vehicles at night and 100 during the day.
Google-affiliated Waymo was also given expansion of services in the vote. It previously was allowed to charge for robo-taxi rides any time of day in the city if a safety driver was present. Now it can do so anytime in San Francisco. ®
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[1] https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/cruise-stuck-wet-concrete-sf-18297946.php
[2] https://twitter.com/Name_Is_Nobody/status/1691554070908268755
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[6] https://twitter.com/Cruise/status/1691590862428627013
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[8] https://twitter.com/cunha_tristan/status/1691482190947721216
[9] https://twitter.com/ThePageOfSF/status/1690542471439327232
[10] https://twitter.com/Cruise/status/1690423649134854145
[11] https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/14/gm_cruise_waymo_robotaxis/
[12] https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/31/air_force_evtols/
[13] https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/01/california_lawmakers_driverless_trucks/
[14] https://www.theregister.com/2023/04/10/cruise_software_update/
[15] https://twitter.com/Cruise/status/1689799635001626625
[16] https://twitter.com/Cruise/status/1689394949953888256
[17] https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/14/gm_cruise_waymo_robotaxis/
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Re: "We apologize to those who were impacted"
It would be hard hitting news..
/s
Re: "We apologize to those who were impacted"
All rumours to the contrary will be squashed.
Well...
As much as this will create mirth for certain readers, I am pretty sure that human drivers have done, do and will do this all the time... but it doesn't get reported (or if so, then just in the local papers' "Mirth" section).
Re: Well...
"Just as stupid as a human driver" is not the pitch for self-driving vehicles, though. They're supposed to be safer. If they're actually, as seems to be the case, much worse at actually navigating city traffic (and with the bonus of converting cell network congestion into traffic jams), what's the point? Just to remove more jobs from the market?
Re: Well...
The description of the concrete incident reminds of the principle of fail-safe, on perhaps the lack of it. Instead of assuming a road is a road until you see specific signs like a red "STOP" one, you assume that nothing is a road until proven otherwise. Is it flat but wet? Either not a road or a dangerously slippy road. Is it wet and raining? Then probably acceptable to ignore the previous condition but slow down anyway.
The "10 car pile up" was actually "backed up" because this was fail-safe. There wasn't enough bandwidth and so the cars chose to not risk it. Although I am confused what they need all that bandwidth for. Are they streaming video to a dark room full of preteens trying to score 1000 points for hitting a pedestrian? (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105629/)
Re: Well...
"Are they streaming video to a dark room full of preteens trying to score 1000 points for hitting a pedestrian? (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105629/)"
Not yet. Wait until some teenage hackers get into one of these companies systems...
Context..
Other blunders from Cruise this week include allegedly almost hitting two women accompanying two children
And this, kids, is a lesson how removing context from a sentence can really mess with your interpretation..
:)
Having some empathy for the machines...
I would really want to see what obstructions and warnings were in place to prevent any driver from inadvertently paddling in concrete before I blamed the driver, whether human or Johnny Cab.
Re: Having some empathy for the machines...
Follow the links in the article? [1]This one may feed into your doubts that *enough* cones were warning off drivers?
[1] https://twitter.com/Name_Is_Nobody/status/1691554070908268755
contacted Cruise to get a better understanding of the incident
"Our programmers are taking concrete steps to fix this problem, to ensure that any deficiencies are not set in stone, and all our robotaxis will be fixed by the end of the week."
stay well away ...
"... a 10 car pile up following the Outside Lands music festival. Cruise explained that the festival created wireless bandwidth constraints that delayed connectivity for its vehicles."
Err, the basic safety of the vehicle depends on having a good wifi signal (or even a good radio signal of some undefined kind)? That sounds like dangerous engineering to me! There's no chance they could guarantee it where I live in the UK, for example.
Re: stay well away ...
The WiFi is so the passenger can tell it where to go.
The basic safety of the car depends on it stopping when it doesn't understand what is going on. But that's not the WiFi.
Thrilled...we're thrilled
GM must be absolutely thrilled by the abundant free publicity their Cruise unit is getting. After all There's no such thing as bad publicity so long as they spell your name right< (attributed to P.T.Barnum)
"We apologize to those who were impacted"
Sooner rather than later, that platitude may be an unfortunate choice of words to use with these self-driving vehicles.