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On the record: Apple bags patent for iDevice to play LPs

(2023/07/28)


A patent granted to Apple this week suggests the iGiant is, if not actively working on, at least entertaining the thought of introducing some modular hardware into its lineup – including, bizarrely, an old-fashioned record player.

The [1]patent [PDF], which was rubber-stamped by US officials on July 25 after being filed a little over two years ago, describes plugging portable Apple screens – presumably iPads – into a hinge connected to a baseplate. The baseplate could contain a processor, battery and memory, according to the filing.

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Apple's modular computer design, showing the base, slotted hinge w/detachable screen and accessories – Click to enlarge

That base, in turn, could be used with a variety of accessories, including a keyboard, an additional display or any other "modularized computing and input devices" that Apple or its hardware partners could theoretically come up with.

Like, for example, a record turntable. That's one such modular innovation Apple proposed in the patent filing, which indicates that such bits and bobs could be snapped in place on the modular base with the assistance of magnets.

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Apple's modular computer could even help you DJ – Click to enlarge

"The computing device can be utilized by a music producer, a disc jockey, an audio engineer, or the like to generate music in one configuration while also being modular to permit the user to remove the input device and removably attach a keyboard or second display," Apple wrote of its hypothetical turntable mod. "Thus, the device can be reconfigurable … to efficiently accommodate users in various operational applications."

Additional possibilities mentioned by Apple include a piano keyboard, drawing tablet, and other hardware like mixing boards with various knobs, buttons and dials.

One crazy patent that actually might work, or at least draw eyeballs

For some time Apple users have longed for Macbooks with touchscreens, or any new hardware with more of that good ol' Apple innovation than is found in the existing – rather staid – iLineup.

Instead of that, Apple has filed (among many others) more than [4]250 patents for automotive technology, devices that [5]fold themselves if dropped, [6]roll-up screens , and even a reinvented [7]miniaturized Apple II instead.

Rumors of a new Apple form factor, even just in patent form, are enough to get many fans excited – especially critics who think Apple's [8]best innovations are behind it .

[9]Apple patches exploited bugs in iPhones plus other holes

[10]Apple owes Brit iOS app devs millions from excessively high commission, lawsuit claims

[11]Google's next big idea for browser security looks like another freedom grab to some

[12]Ultra-rare Apple sneakers from the 1990s on sale for $50,000

As is always the case with patents, whether this modular device will be anything other than another iDream is unknown, it may ever make it into commercial form, and Apple didn't respond to our questions. Then again, the patently expensive Apple accessories that could be sold are sure to be a motivator that could make this more of a priority for Cupertino.

Regardless, corporations like Apple routinely file patents for devices they never intend to produce. Like a laptop [13]powered by an iPhone , or a touch-sensitive laptop case that [14]doubles as a solar charger – neither of which has materialized. In the case of the latter, it's been nearly a decade.

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In other words, don't get your hopes up for a big reveal at the next WWDC. ®

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[1] https://image-ppubs.uspto.gov/dirsearch-public/print/downloadPdf/11709527

[2] https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/07/27/apple-modular-computer.jpg

[3] https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/07/27/apple-turntable.png

[4] https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/26/apple_car_patents/

[5] https://www.theregister.com/2023/03/20/apple_granted_patent_for_folding/

[6] https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/17/apple_roll_up_displays/

[7] https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/28/apple_innovation_seems_strangely_familiar/

[8] https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckswoboda/2020/01/13/apple-hasnt-been-innovative-for-a-decade-what-are-they-missing/

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/25/apples_pushes_patches/

[10] https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/25/ios_app_developers_lawsuit/

[11] https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/25/google_web_environment_integrity/

[12] https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/24/ultra_rare_apple_sneakers/

[13] https://www.pcmag.com/news/apple-patent-describes-dumb-laptop-powered-by-iphone

[14] https://www.theregister.com/Print/2014/01/29/apple_awarded_patent_for_touchyfeely_solarpaneled_laptop_cases/

[15] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_offbeat/bootnotes&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2ZMORyBIqrvBbRSrG230s@wAAABY&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0

[16] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



If you have money to through at patents...

Flocke Kroes

You may not be able to profit from selling the protected device but if anyone else does you can take all their money.

Re: If you have money to through at patents...

msknight

Well, they've got what looks suspiciously like an SL-1200 in that image. Wonder if they've got/need permissions to include artwork like that in their patent filings.

Re: If you have money to through at patents...

DS999

I noticed that too. But as it is a drawing, and used for a non commercial purposes (they aren't making money off the patent drawing) I don't think Technics could successfully sue even if they cared.

Plenty of DJs still use SL1200s but aren't buying a bunch of vinyl for what they play. There are specially coded records that are a series of timing marks. Inputting the turntables output to a computer it uses that timing against an audio file so you can drop the needle in any point on the coded vinyl and it will skip to that point in the audio file, adjust pitch control faster it will play the audio file faster, scratch (in a DJ sense) the vinyl it will act as if you were scratching the audio file.

The "modular" bit that connects to an iPad is probably something that includes an A to D converter to digitize the SL1200's output, connecting to the iPad via USB-C. I doubt they would produce an actual turntable module, this would just be something that interfaces the SL1200 to the iPad for club DJs. The club would presumably already have the SL1200s and a mixing board, so you'd need two iPads to make this work. You could get by with one, but having two would provide you some backup in case one of them broke or some clubgirl in the booth spills a drink on it.

Re: If you have money to through at patents...

DS999

Apple has never gone after anyone for violating one of their patents for something that isn't and never will be a product. Like many big companies engineers sometimes have flights of fancy exploring stuff, and patent that fancy because they get a better raise having patents in their CV.

Sooo....

lglethal

It's a docking station. A docking station potentially with a screen. Also a docking station potentially with a screen and a keyboard (otherwise known as a laptop). And you can connect things to it, like you have been able to do with cables for quite a while... I'm kinda failing to see the innovation here, or what there is to be excited about.

Laptops are regularly connected up to Decks (sorry Turntables for the older generation). It's incredibly common to mix records and digital music during a set these days. And on the mixer you see all the info you need, so I'm kinda wondering what the purpose of the screen behind the Deck would be. It certainly would be less convenient to put the controls behind the deck. So easy to bump the arm whilst fiddling with a setting) and digital controls suck on a mixer! So I really dont see the point...

A modular laptop could be interesting admittedly. We already have modular computers (there called Desktops or Towers), but a modular laptop could (big could!) be interesting. But, considering that laptops are designed to run in one configuration and one configuration only, due to things like cooling being a right bugger to make work in such a small form factor, I cant really imagine these will be modular in the way that we would actually want (being able to swap out memory, graphics cards, chips, etc.), I'd bet there basically just talking about swapping peripherals (like we already do using cables!).

So I guess this is good for the Apple hype train, but I'm failing to see anything to dance about...

Re: Sooo....

FirstTangoInParis

I wonder if the US conflate patents (with genuine innovation) with registered designs (like breakfast cereals). The docking station thing clearly does not have any substantial innovation but Apple might want to protect a design concept.

Re: Sooo....

Pascal Monett

No, it's an Apple docking station.

If Apple talks about it, it's new !

Re: Sooo....

that one in the corner

And records have rounded corners, so that's in Apple's wheelhouse.

Re: Sooo....

ChoHag

> I'm kinda failing to see the innovation here, or what there is to be excited about.

There's a whole new revenue stream at Apple that you can throw money in to.

Obvious, innit!

Anonymous Coward

Unless apple have done something innovative with the joint between the various modules, I fail to see why this patent was granted.

Re: Obvious, innit!

Anonymous Coward

Money?

Re: Obvious, innit!

Anonymous Coward

"the joint between the various modules"

So that's where I dropped it! Ta. Now I'm ready to create some more Apple patents.

Portable large screen displays

FirstTangoInParis

It would be nice if they could hurry up and build those holographic displays you see so much of in sci fi films. Having to plug into some tatty old hardware on a remote site is not tte best experience. I suppose I could shell out for Apple’s goggles, I could have as big a screen as I want then, but a little thingy out of which a screen magically appears would be much more fun.

All together now. "I hear the sound....of distant drums"

Rol

"I'm not quite loving your remix"

"That's not a remix, that's direct from vinyl"

"But it sounds a bit duff"

"What's wrong?"

"Well the drums seem out of sync"

"Err....Yes I see what you mean, but that isn't the drums. That's the sound of me typing on the keyboard and being carried through all the hard connections to the record deck"

"Sounds a bit crap,if you ask me"

"Yeah, I think you're right"

"I'd ask for your money back if I were you"

And there was I thinking ...

Blue Pumpkin

it was something novel like getting the iDevice to scan the vinyl directly into the music library with it's super-duper integrated laser and beam it round the house.

But would the iTurn be more expensive than Jonny Ives Linn version ?

Pascal Monett

Probably.

Scratching

that one in the corner

As you reach past the turntable to tap the iPhone screen.

Next patent: we turn the UI text upside down then tell you to turn the iPad over: ta da, all the Ok/Cancel/... buttons are at the top of the display and you can reach them the tone arm.[1]

[1] multi-line dialogues being against the minimalist design ethic, so if the text is now backwards return the software as "not cool enough to be on the iPad" (Ts&Cs of the Apple Store, clause 17d).

Had to have been filed 2021-04-01?

Bebu

Or 4/1/21 in left pondian.

Anyone that endured more than a decade of vinyls before the advent of the CD can only imagine insanity is behind any ressurrection of the LP.

Is Apple going to have the turntable spin in the opposite direction (ccw) as a drm mechanism? Or digitally encode the audio in their vinyl?

The first CD I heard was a test CD with a recording of Pachelbel's Canon in D and I reckon within sixty seconds I had pronounced the vinyl LP deader than a Norweigian Blue.

All the fFaffing about with antistatic sprays and cleaners and replacing styli and adjusting tone arm weights and anti-skate settings and whatnot... madness. Remembering the preamp also had apply RIAA equalization to "correct" the distortion intrinsic in the mechanical pickup... lunacy. Try telling that to the youth today... they don't believe you. I wouldn't either.

Re: Had to have been filed 2021-04-01?

Peter Gathercole

I would have believed that you were doing what you say, when you said, right up until the point I realised you had typed "vinyls". That is a much more recent term than the decade before CDs became common.

Re: Had to have been filed 2021-04-01?

GruntyMcPugh

The only thing I miss about vinyl is gatefold sleeves. Oh, and maybe the quest you had to sometimes go on to find an album that wasn't stocked by the mainstream outlets (Woollies, WH Smith, Boots, etc).

Hope this is compatible

trevorde

https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/10/jony_ive_linn_turntable/

Or there is an adapter for only $5k USD

Apple does not invent stuff

Spanners

So... this patent is either to get money out of someone else's work or to discourage someone else again from innovating.

Which is it?

I claim prior art

heyrick

Plugged my turntable into my netbook computer years ago.

Well, that's about the level of "innovation" described here, isn't it?

mark l 2

No one who has done any DJing would want to be reaching over the turntable and prodding at an Ipad behind it like as shown on the diagram. You are asking to accidentally knock the record deck and cause the record to skip doing that.

And if you aren't touching the screen I don't see what use it would have, other than maybe a visualizer showing pretty patterns in time with the music played?

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