A room-temperature, ambient-pressure superconductor? Take a closer look
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Superconductors – which are able to conduct electricity with virtually no resistance, and therefore have almost zero energy loss – typically require intense cold and pressure to function. In a [1]pre-print paper , the scientific trio state they were able to produce a modified form of lead-apatite dubbed LK-99 that is superconductive at any temperature below 127°C (261°F) without the need for pressure chambers.
Such a superconductor would be incredibly useful. For example, it could be used to make faster digital electronics, resulting in higher performance from personal computers. It could be used in MRI machines without the extreme cooling required, which has caused a shortage of helium. It could replace the powerful magnets in maglev trains and fusion reactors. And obviously could produce super-efficient power transmission lines.
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According to the scientists, by substituting a fraction of the lead in LK-99 with copper ions, the volume of the material is slightly reduced, resulting in tiny structural distortions. That deformation leads to the creation of superconducting quantum wells. Those wells, they explained, are key to achieving superconductivity. Also, the material is unable to relax and lose its superconductivity.
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Their paper shows a sliver of superconducting material partially levitating off a normal magnet due to the Meissner effect. It's not fully off the magnet's surface due to imperfections; this is an academic study after all, and not a commercial product. We understand some patent applications have already been filed.
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Still from a [6]video provided with the LK-99 paper showing what's said to be the LK-99 superconductor levitating off a normal magnet at room temperature and atmospheric pressure ... Click to enlarge
Activating traditional superconductors requires intense physical conditions, which limits the scope of their use to large or bulky installations, experimental systems, and the like. The three boffins – Sukbae Lee and Ji-Hoon Kim of the Quantum Energy Research Centre in South Korea, and Young-Wan Kwon of the KU-KIST Graduate School of Converging Science and Technology at Korea University – suggest those days could be over.
"All evidence and explanation lead that LK-99 is the first room-temperature and ambient-pressure superconductor," the trio claimed in their paper.
"We believe that our new development will be a brand-new historical event that opens a new era for humankind." Not to overstate things.
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As far as we're aware, their study has not yet been accepted or published in a peer-reviewed journal. We've asked them for further comment.
[8]Good news: Boffins have finally built room-temperature superconductors. Bad news: You'll need a laser, a diamond anvil, and a lot of pressure
[9]Take this $15m and make us some ultra-energy-efficient superconductor chips, scientists told
[10]MIT discovery suggests a new class of superconductors
[11]New state of matter discovered by superconductivity gurus
The Register reached out to several physics departments and labs to get their take on the LK-99 paper, and we'll let you know what they make of it all. Professors Susannah Speller and Chris Grovenor of the University of Oxford's Department of Materials in England earlier told the i newspaper [12]they have some doubts about the South Korean team's claims.
"It is too early to say that we have been presented with compelling evidence for superconductivity in these samples," the duo said. They added the paper was interesting, though the results weren't wholly convincing.
Two critical data points needed to ascertain the superconductivity of LK-99 – its magnetization changing as well as heat capacity – aren't evident in the data the trio presented, Profs Speller and Grovenor argued.
Another physicist, Sven Friedemann of the University of Bristol in England, shared that assessment, saying vital evidence was missing from the South Korea paper. Friedemann also questioned whether footage in the study claiming to show Meissner effect levitation due to expulsion of magnetic fields could be also caused by a non-superconducting source.
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So hold the excitement, for now at least.
We may not have to wait long to find out whether the team's conclusions are true, though. In an accompanying [14]paper detailing the creation of LK-99, the team claimed they only needed a few days and simple laboratory tools to synthesize their allegedly revolutionary material.
That second paper has a few extra names on it, we note, including Hyun-Tak Kim, a physics professor at the College of William and Mary, Williamsburg, USA, and a [15]highly cited academic.
If interested physicists decide to put these claims to the test, we may know soon whether this research is more hype than breakthrough. ®
Skepticism is healthy here
We've been down this road before, with some boffins boasting about discovering this sort of electrical holy grail, as Nature 's news team [16]documented this week.
Take for instance Ranga Dias, a physicist at the University of Rochester in the US, who had a paper published in Nature in 2020 in which he and fellow eggheads [17]claimed to have created a room-temperature superconductor from a combination of carbon, sulfur, and hydrogen under extreme pressure.
Nature [18]retracted that paper late last year after questions were raised when others couldn't replicate the results and concerns arose over how raw data gathered from the experiments was processed.
Now the Physical Review Letters (PRL) is said to be preparing a retraction of a second of Dias's papers, this one dealing with the electrical properties of manganese disulfide. According to Nature , PRL is probing allegations of data fabrication and falsification, combined with concerns raised by the first retraction.
These investigations have reignited scrutiny of a third paper by Dias and colleagues. [19]Published in March to much [20]fanfare , Dias et al claimed to have discovered near-ambient pressure and room temperature superconductivity in a material made of lutetium, hydrogen, and nitrogen.
Dias denies any wrongdoing, and told Nature 's journalists in a statement: "We remain certain that there has been no data fabrication, data manipulation or any other scientific misconduct in connection with our work. Despite this setback, we remain enthusiastic about continuing our work."
There is no connection between the investigations into Dias's studies and the LK-99 superconductivity paper.
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It's good that El Reg is taking a slightly skeptical view. Too many media outlets take what someone has said at face value and proclaim it is a breakthrough. Questioning data you provided isn't being a hater, pushing fake news or anything like that (despite what some politicians will tell you). It's required for good science.
I'd like to see some of these breakthroughs come true. I'd like to see Fusion become a thing (I don't think it will, but I hope I am wrong). I'd like to see room temperature super conductors, and experience any benefits they bring. I'd like to see a safe replacement for Lithium in batteries that offers the same or better capacity.
It's good to remain skeptical though, as long as you stay open minded. I try to do both.
Fusion is definitely a thing, and we already get a significant part of our electricity from it...in the form of solar power.
Pedantry aside, I'm pretty confident that humans will be able to create a fusion power plant that creates more energy than is put in. Whether that will be at a cost that will be commercially viable is a different question.
Technically, that has been achieved just a few weeks ago, and it made a lot of noise in scientific circles.
We're not talking about commercial production yet, though.
As for superconductivity, I certainly do hope that that will arrive. Just think, with that single innovation all power generators will instantly become up to 20% more efficient !
With a superconducting iron, my wife will be able to starch my sheets, shirts and undies all day, at no cost.
There may be other useful applications that benefit mankind even more.
Except a superconducting iron would not heat up
Do you read 'The Independent' Science section by any chance? It's often re-purposed press release BS, without a shred of journalistic investigation or scepticism. Mind you 'Ars Technica' can be guilty of that, they promoted a story about a device that could pull moisture from the air and make water, supposedly without any energy input, and this was going to save the water starved world.
Apatite
Checking up on apatite, it seems that this is a group of minerals, so creating the Lead - Apatite - Copper amalgam with the correct type of apatite may need more information than presented, at least in the Register article. Still, if they have achieved room temperature one atmosphere superconductivity that is an exceptional achievement. People have won Noble prizes for less ( https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/1987/summary/ , and in 1972 https://ieeecsc.org/awards/nobel-prize-physics#:~:text=In%201957%2C%20Bardeen%2C%20Cooper%20and,when%20a%20metal%20becomes%20superconducting. )
"Apatite is mineral group with the following chemical formula applied to the most common members of the primary group (excluding the extended Apatite supergroup):
Ca5(PO4)3(F,Cl,OH)
Individual Apatite minerals are:
Fluorapatite - Ca5(PO4)3F
Chlorapatite - Ca5(PO4)3Cl
Hydroxylapatite - Ca5(PO4)3OH"
https://www.minerals.net/mineral/apatite.aspx
Re: Apatite
It's also the group your tooth enamel falls into....
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Superconducting teeth!
The horror.
Re: Apatite
According to their ArXiV preprint, "A material called LK-99, a modified-lead apatite crystal structure with the composition Pb$_{10-x}$Cu$_x$(PO$_4$)$_{6O}$ ($0.9 So now we know. Cue race to repeat, and screw out a patent on anything the original researchers' agent missed. Rounded corners, perhaps?
Re: Apatite
> According to their ArXiV preprint, "A material called LK-99, a modified-lead apatite crystal structure with the composition Pb$_{10-x}$Cu$_x$(PO$_4$)$_{6O}$ ($0.9 Are you sure that's not a regular expression?
Re: Apatite
Definitely an expression, of what kind not sure
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If I expressed that regularly, I’d seek medical advice.
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If you regard $_ as "subscript" and replace {} with (), it turns into a completely regular chemical formula.
The basic ingredients are two metals found in scrapyards, and phosphate, available from piss.
I expect a slew of unsavoury youtube videos and another epidemic of cable thefts and church roof stripping...
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It doesn't make any sense to me.
So, it must be Perl.
Even if its not a superconductor
Some of the comments were sceptical in the article (rightly so as would be a huge breakthrough if true).
If it is not a superconductor BUT is a very efficient electrical conductor at room temperature then would still be an important (& potentially v. useful achievement if useable materials could be spun out of it).
Although it would not have the exciting magnetic properties of a superconductor (lots of interesting uses of superconductors relate to magnetic properties), something that was "nearly" perfect in electrical conduction at "everyday" temperatures & pressures could still be very useful for reduced energy use - less "waste" heat generated in conduction = less initial energy input required.
Re: Even if its not a superconductor
Forgive me if I am completely wrong here, but I thought many of the "high temperature" (relative to liquid He) superconductors were very poor (i.e. lost superconductivity) at handling high currents or high magnetic flux levels. I.e. they are super conductors for modest currents, but no use for power distribution levels where such a saving would be of great commercial and environmental benefit.
> "We remain certain that there has been no data fabrication, data manipulation or any other scientific misconduct
If your method can't be followed to reproduce the data, fabricated or not, you did not conduct your science properly.