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Threads versus Twitter: Shouldn't we be happy the wheels are falling off antisocial social media?

(2023/07/07)


Register Kettle It feels like for years we've been moaning about the disastrous effect of social media on society.

There are lots of accusations you can throw at the big networks: for instance, they've ruined people's attention spans, destroyed intelligent debate, and driven wedges between us all. Now nobody does anything unless it sparks enragement, sorry, engagement.

We could just not look at it, and ignore it, and touch grass as the kids say. But there useful sides to social media: live breaking news direct from journalists, experts with actual info to share, official announcements and confirmations, or just entertaining stuff.

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Generally, though, you'd think we'd all be overjoyed that social networks are sharding, with Twitter [2]losing the plot, Threads [3]unraveled by Meta, BlueSky emerging, and Mastodon tempting us.

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We've published pieces [5]calling for a return to a decentralized internet. Is a fragmented web what we really want? Shouldn't we be celebrating the end of centralized online power?

That's the topic of our vultures tackled for this week's [6]Kettle podcast, which you can watch below.

From top left going clockwise in the thumbnail, we have [7]Brandon Vigliarolo , [8]Thomas Claburn , [9]Chris Williams , and host [10]Iain Thomson . All yours to view in just nine seconds and 16 minutes. ®

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Let me be clear

The Dogs Meevonks

Facebook/Meta are not 'joining' the fediverse... they're attacking it.

They see it's rise as a threat, so they'll do exactly what companies like google and microsoft have done in the past. They 'join, they undermine, they make changes to the underlying software that make it proprietary and incompatible with the wider activitypub network. They force a slowdown in development and adoption and they marginalize and isolate every other instance. Won't adopt their standards, can't interact with their users... and once they have a majority of users... it's game over.

Mastodon server admins have a choice to make... and that choice should be to defederate and entirely block the threads.net instance.

This kind of attack has happened before and that's all this is... an attempt to eliminate the competition and maintain the monopoly.

Re: Let me be clear

Dan 55

I think we've seen this already with Google Talk and XMPP. Big behemoth jumps in, promises everyone interoperability, then takes them all somewhere else (Hangouts).

Re: Let me be clear

anthonyhegedus

Totally agree, but I really want to understand what a fediverse is and why it's bad

ukgnome

Currently there are no adverts on Threads - How the hell am I gonna get scammed now?

Dan 55

Have you seen the [1]permissions this app requires ? That's the scam, right there.

[1] https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/05/threads_comes_to_uk/

Anonymous Coward

Billionaires own social media. They didn't like the way twitter was going so it was bought it to kill it. Look how it's gone down, sack all the staff, make very unpopular changes such as adding post limits, limiting what people see etc... Threads on the other hand is under the all seeing eyes of our lizard overlords. It can be controlled much more than twitter ever can without most users realising it. Facebook has ultimate control over what you see on Facebook so it makes sense to control all the narratives. Another thing of note is that twitter has a hell of a lot of left leaning young people who a while back all got together and started following each other and they can't have that now can they? A free internet is an illusion. Google (search), Meta (socials) and the mainstream media (news) are all controlled. Maybe none of us are free and freedom is actually an illusion.

Freedom is an illusion

anthonyhegedus

Freedom isn't desirable in any large society. There have to be controls. Some countries do it via authoritarian governments, some countries let the billionaires dictate the narratives. There used to be more to the world than the internet. Now, if you're not engage in it, you're not part of society. And how do we engage in it? We follow one type of social media or another. The internet can be a force for good, but it's also a way of engaging the citizens and taking up their time.

I think…

Anonymous Coward

…the compete incompetence shown by Elon tuning Twitter pretty much proves this isn’t true.

There isn’t an all powerful Illuminati. Billionaires are not more intelligent than anyone else…

It’s all people doing stuff, screwing up and getting lucky. At random.

Nothing is so firmly believed as that which we least know.
-- Michel de Montaigne