Meta's data-hungry Threads skips over EU but will land in Britain tomorrow
(2023/07/05)
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- News link: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2023/07/05/threads_comes_to_uk/
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Elon Musk's Twitter can breathe easy when it comes to European Union – the beleaguered social media platform won't be challenged in the single market of member states by its newly minted rival, "Threads" from Meta.
This is because Mark Zuckerberg's company – which owns Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram, Messenger, and more – will not launch its new Twitter-like service anywhere in the EU for the foreseeable future. But yes, it is coming to Britain, London vultures have informed us.
Brexit dividend? 'Newly independent' UK will be world's 'data hub', claims digital minister [1]READ MORE
Ireland's data protection watchdog, which oversees all the tech giants headquartered in the corporate tax-light country, told The Register that Meta had "confirmed to the DPC that they have no plans to roll out the service in the EU at present."
While it's hitting the [2]US and the UK tomorrow – British and American influencers have reportedly already been offered early access – this Berlin-based vulture can confirm there's none of that here, not unless you wish to pipe your data across via VPN.
DMA gatekeepers Also in the background is the incoming Big Tech law, the EU's Digital Markets Act. Earlier this week, the Commission received notifications from mega platforms that will be considered gatekeepers under the act. Meta is one of them. Others include Alphabet, Amazon, Apple, ByteDance, Microsoft and Samsung. The EC has 45 working days to assess if they meet the threshold and to designate them as gatekeepers. They'll have six months to comply with the requirements in the DMA, at the latest by 6 March 2024.
Meta is already considered a VLOP (very large online platform) under the EU's sister legislation, the Digital Services Act (DSA).
Some of the "don'ts" that will be imposed on DMA gatekeepers include:
Ban on using the data of business users when gatekeepers compete with them on their own platform;
Ban on ranking the gatekeeper's own products or services in a more favorable manner compared to those of third parties;
Ban on requiring app developers to use certain of the gatekeeper's services (such as payment systems or identity providers) in order to appear in app stores of the gatekeeper;
Ban on tracking end users outside of the gatekeepers' core platform service for the purpose of targeted advertising, without effective consent having been granted.
As we mentioned [3]earlier today , the app asks users for quite a serious amount of data. (You have to click through to App Privacy > Details to see the full extent of it, which is presented in a scrollbox. The Reg has screenshotted the whole thing and pasted it together at the very end of this article so you can get a fuller picture.) In return for the data, Threadsters (Threaders?) get to use the app for free. We've asked Meta for comment.
The Facebook parent made 97.45 percent of its revenues – $113.642 billion of a total of $116.609 billion – in advertising in [4]fiscal 2022 [PDF], according to its reported numbers. Net income, however, stood at $23.2 billion, down 41 percent from 2021's $39.37 billion. Under operations risk factors, it lists those "associated with government actions that could restrict access to our products or impair our ability to sell advertising in certain countries; litigation and government inquiries; privacy, legislative, and regulatory concerns or developments."
The only way is Brexit
Data privacy laws in the US are very loose, especially on a federal level, which is part of the reason why the various [5]frameworks for data exchange between the European Union's member states and the United States keep failing when challenged in court.
However, it might come as a surprise to some that Meta doesn't appear to anticipate any regulatory trouble in the UK.
UK's GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition [6]READ MORE
It's a signal that at least one tech giant expects the UK's "replacement for GDPR" – the second take on the Data Protection and Digital Information Bill (DPDIB II) – to be more sympathetic than current British privacy legislation. [7]Brexit dividend , anyone?
Meanwhile, over in Germany, Meta can't combine the data it collects about you on Facebook with the stuff you spill on Instagram and WhatsApp, or with other websites and apps you use, without getting your explicit permission.
[8]US vendor accused of violating GDPR by reputation-scoring EU citizens
[9]That Meta GDPR fine is €1.2B. Plus biz must stop sending EU data to US
[10]Google sued over 'interception' of abortion data on Planned Parenthood website
[11]Privacy Framework draft isn't 'future-proof', say MEPs
That was the [12]ruling [PDF] from the European Union's highest court, the Court of Justice, when it upheld a decision by German antitrust regulators that Meta had abused its dominance in social media by milking users for information and swirling it together to serve up ads to users.
A Meta company spokesperson told us: "We are evaluating the Court's decision and will have more to say in due course."
Back in [13]January , Ireland's regulator stopped Meta from launching advertising services on WhatsApp that uses data from Facebook or Instagram.
[14]
The crossing of the data streams is not a problem for the Facebook giant in the US and UK, it seems. ®
[15]
The full data policy for the new Threads app, as listed by its developer, Meta's Instagram, [16]here – click to enlarge
Get our [17]Tech Resources
[1] https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/06/new_dcms_head_newly_independent/
[2] https://apps.apple.com/us/app/threads-an-instagram-app/id6446901002
[3] https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/05/instagram_threads_debuts_twitter_competition/
[4] https://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront.net/CIK-0001326801/d3f3edde-e018-4882-9bf9-1a17e0841e04.pdf
[5] https://www.theregister.com/2023/05/12/eu_us_privacy_framework/
[6] https://www.theregister.com/2023/05/19/dpib_2_surveillance_oversight/
[7] https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/06/new_dcms_head_newly_independent/
[8] https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/23/telesign_gdpr_complaint/
[9] https://www.theregister.com/2023/05/22/dpc_fines_meta_12b_tells/
[10] https://www.theregister.com/2023/05/16/google_abortion_tracking_suit/
[11] https://www.theregister.com/2023/05/12/eu_us_privacy_framework/
[12] https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2023-07/cp230113en.pdf
[13] https://www.dataprotection.ie/en/news-media/data-protection-commission-announces-conclusion-two-inquiries-meta-ireland
[14] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2ZKWTn9YGgcmfJPiZb-YDNQAAAxQ&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0
[15] https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/07/05/data_used_by_threads_as_per_app_store.jpg
[16] https://apps.apple.com/us/app/threads-an-instagram-app/id6446901002
[17] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/
This is because Mark Zuckerberg's company – which owns Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram, Messenger, and more – will not launch its new Twitter-like service anywhere in the EU for the foreseeable future. But yes, it is coming to Britain, London vultures have informed us.
Brexit dividend? 'Newly independent' UK will be world's 'data hub', claims digital minister [1]READ MORE
Ireland's data protection watchdog, which oversees all the tech giants headquartered in the corporate tax-light country, told The Register that Meta had "confirmed to the DPC that they have no plans to roll out the service in the EU at present."
While it's hitting the [2]US and the UK tomorrow – British and American influencers have reportedly already been offered early access – this Berlin-based vulture can confirm there's none of that here, not unless you wish to pipe your data across via VPN.
DMA gatekeepers Also in the background is the incoming Big Tech law, the EU's Digital Markets Act. Earlier this week, the Commission received notifications from mega platforms that will be considered gatekeepers under the act. Meta is one of them. Others include Alphabet, Amazon, Apple, ByteDance, Microsoft and Samsung. The EC has 45 working days to assess if they meet the threshold and to designate them as gatekeepers. They'll have six months to comply with the requirements in the DMA, at the latest by 6 March 2024.
Meta is already considered a VLOP (very large online platform) under the EU's sister legislation, the Digital Services Act (DSA).
Some of the "don'ts" that will be imposed on DMA gatekeepers include:
Ban on using the data of business users when gatekeepers compete with them on their own platform;
Ban on ranking the gatekeeper's own products or services in a more favorable manner compared to those of third parties;
Ban on requiring app developers to use certain of the gatekeeper's services (such as payment systems or identity providers) in order to appear in app stores of the gatekeeper;
Ban on tracking end users outside of the gatekeepers' core platform service for the purpose of targeted advertising, without effective consent having been granted.
As we mentioned [3]earlier today , the app asks users for quite a serious amount of data. (You have to click through to App Privacy > Details to see the full extent of it, which is presented in a scrollbox. The Reg has screenshotted the whole thing and pasted it together at the very end of this article so you can get a fuller picture.) In return for the data, Threadsters (Threaders?) get to use the app for free. We've asked Meta for comment.
The Facebook parent made 97.45 percent of its revenues – $113.642 billion of a total of $116.609 billion – in advertising in [4]fiscal 2022 [PDF], according to its reported numbers. Net income, however, stood at $23.2 billion, down 41 percent from 2021's $39.37 billion. Under operations risk factors, it lists those "associated with government actions that could restrict access to our products or impair our ability to sell advertising in certain countries; litigation and government inquiries; privacy, legislative, and regulatory concerns or developments."
The only way is Brexit
Data privacy laws in the US are very loose, especially on a federal level, which is part of the reason why the various [5]frameworks for data exchange between the European Union's member states and the United States keep failing when challenged in court.
However, it might come as a surprise to some that Meta doesn't appear to anticipate any regulatory trouble in the UK.
UK's GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition [6]READ MORE
It's a signal that at least one tech giant expects the UK's "replacement for GDPR" – the second take on the Data Protection and Digital Information Bill (DPDIB II) – to be more sympathetic than current British privacy legislation. [7]Brexit dividend , anyone?
Meanwhile, over in Germany, Meta can't combine the data it collects about you on Facebook with the stuff you spill on Instagram and WhatsApp, or with other websites and apps you use, without getting your explicit permission.
[8]US vendor accused of violating GDPR by reputation-scoring EU citizens
[9]That Meta GDPR fine is €1.2B. Plus biz must stop sending EU data to US
[10]Google sued over 'interception' of abortion data on Planned Parenthood website
[11]Privacy Framework draft isn't 'future-proof', say MEPs
That was the [12]ruling [PDF] from the European Union's highest court, the Court of Justice, when it upheld a decision by German antitrust regulators that Meta had abused its dominance in social media by milking users for information and swirling it together to serve up ads to users.
A Meta company spokesperson told us: "We are evaluating the Court's decision and will have more to say in due course."
Back in [13]January , Ireland's regulator stopped Meta from launching advertising services on WhatsApp that uses data from Facebook or Instagram.
[14]
The crossing of the data streams is not a problem for the Facebook giant in the US and UK, it seems. ®
[15]
The full data policy for the new Threads app, as listed by its developer, Meta's Instagram, [16]here – click to enlarge
Get our [17]Tech Resources
[1] https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/06/new_dcms_head_newly_independent/
[2] https://apps.apple.com/us/app/threads-an-instagram-app/id6446901002
[3] https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/05/instagram_threads_debuts_twitter_competition/
[4] https://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront.net/CIK-0001326801/d3f3edde-e018-4882-9bf9-1a17e0841e04.pdf
[5] https://www.theregister.com/2023/05/12/eu_us_privacy_framework/
[6] https://www.theregister.com/2023/05/19/dpib_2_surveillance_oversight/
[7] https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/06/new_dcms_head_newly_independent/
[8] https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/23/telesign_gdpr_complaint/
[9] https://www.theregister.com/2023/05/22/dpc_fines_meta_12b_tells/
[10] https://www.theregister.com/2023/05/16/google_abortion_tracking_suit/
[11] https://www.theregister.com/2023/05/12/eu_us_privacy_framework/
[12] https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2023-07/cp230113en.pdf
[13] https://www.dataprotection.ie/en/news-media/data-protection-commission-announces-conclusion-two-inquiries-meta-ireland
[14] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2ZKWTn9YGgcmfJPiZb-YDNQAAAxQ&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0
[15] https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/07/05/data_used_by_threads_as_per_app_store.jpg
[16] https://apps.apple.com/us/app/threads-an-instagram-app/id6446901002
[17] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/
Re: "Other Data"
abend0c4
However, if the UK decides this kind of thing is fine and the EU decides it isn't, that pretty much scuppers the "adequacy" decision.
big slurps
Brynstero0
that's a bit list of data slurping, I think I will avoid....
Mines the phone with GrapheneOS installed
"Other Data"
What the F is that supposed to mean ?
It is not surprising that they are releasing in the UK - our ICO has long been a chocolate teapot.