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Vessels claiming to be Chinese warships are messing with passenger planes

(2023/03/20)


Australian airline Qantas issued standing orders to its pilots last week advising them that some of its fleet experienced interference on VHF stations from sources purporting to be the Chinese Military.

The Register has confirmed the reports.

The interference has been noticed in the western Pacific and South China Sea. Qantas has advised its crew to continue their assigned path and report interference to the controlling air traffic control authority.

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The airline also has stated there have been no reported safety events.

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Qantas operations order - Click to enlarge

Qantas’ warning follows a similar one from the International Federation of Air Line Pilots’ Associations (IFALPA) [3]issued on March 2nd.

IFALPA said it “been made aware of some airlines and military aircraft being called over 121.50 or 123.45 by military warships in the Pacific region, notably South China Sea, Philippine Sea, East of Indian Ocean.” According to the org, some flights contacted by the warships were provided vectors to avoid the airspace.

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But while interfering with VHF can be disruptive, what is more concerning is the IFALPA said it has “reason to believe there may be interferences to GNSS and RADALT as well.”

RADLT is aviation jargon for radar altimeter - an instrument that tells pilots how far they are above ground. So they can avoid hitting it. GNSS is the Global Navigation Satellite System.

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GNSS Jamming navigation systems or radar altimeters can greatly disorientate a pilot or worse.

Of course, there is no telling if China is merely testing out its capabilities, performing these actions as a show of power, or has a deeper motive.

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IFALPA recommended pilots who experience interference do not respond to warships, notify dispatchers and relevant air traffic control, and complete necessary reports.

China has asserted more control over Asia Pacific waters. Outgoing Micronesian president David Panuelo recently [10]accused Beijing of sending warnings to stay away from its ships when entered his country’s territory. In an explosive letter, Panuelo said China also attempted to take control of the nation's submarine cables and telecoms infrastructure. ®

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Good Old Propaganda

Esoteric Eric

It never went away.

Go on Youtube and watch the state sponsored propaganda films of the 50s

Now that Biden has decided he doesn't like China, then no-one else can.

But when trump did it, it was all 'ooh, look, he's a right right nazi'

Sums up the left for you.

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Re: Good Old Propaganda

Rikki Tikki

QANTAS is a private Australian company, and nothing to do with either Biden or Trump.

Re: Good Old Propaganda

The Central Scrutinizer

WTF do you think you are actually saying, cos I have no idea.

Re: Good Old Propaganda

Anonymous Coward

Neither has he, I think, i looks more like regurgitating some old lines. No brain needed.

Re: Good Old Propaganda

Anonymous Coward

Man shouts at cloud.

Peak China?

John Hawkins

I'm beginning to wonder if we've reached peak China and their leaders getting increasingly bolshy (for want of a better word) as they find themselves staring into the abyss.

Demographically China already has some serious issues - even a few years ago there were reports of labour shortages - and Covid has made much of the old developed world realise that they can no longer rely on China as a manufacturing site so have started to diversify. The current leader of the China seems dead set on rolling back the changes that Deng Xiaoping made and that enabled the country to become what it is today.

I think it is a real pity - a decade and a half or so ago I worked with quite a few Chinese colleagues as the company I was working for at the time had an office in Beijing and I found them to be open, honest and hardworking so I had high hopes for China.

Whatever happens, it will take a while to happen as China is so big, but I hope for the sake of people there that things do sort themselves out.

Re: Peak China?

Anonymous Coward

I'm not sure you can blame China for this. Especially since Trump, China has been blamed for pretty much everything while at the same time still being used for cheap labour. Frankly, I would eventually get pissed off too. Now the US has started playing with embargoes again to falsify competition for political gains I think it was fairly predictable that China developed a bit of a "f*ck you" attitude, especially now it appears that the Americans have finally realised that the days of the dollar may be over if China gets its act together - and it can.

I see this sable rattling more as a heads up by China to the US that it cannot be bullied into compliance by war as it has so often done elsewhere (Iraq being a classic example), they can and will respond. As US doctrine is one of overwhelming force (as in not having the bottle to engage in a fight where the sides are equally capable), it pretty much rules out standard warfare so they're trying the economic variant, including blackmailing or bribing (more the former, cheaper) other countries into going along and sadly, some do instead of standing back.

No, I'm not a China fan, but on the other hand I dislike bullies, liars and BS and the motivations of the US appear increasingly suspect here. I am saddened by this because they used to be better than this but it appears Biden has decided to ride along with what Trump started, which has in turn forced China closer to Putin's Russia. I note they're still keeping their distance somewhat as a signal that they're not just going along with what Putin is doing, but overall it's not good IMHO.

Re: Peak China?

Outski

Bullshit. China has been trying to bully countries around South East Asia for well over a decade, this has got nothing to do with US foreign policy.

There are vast swathes of what's known as the the South China sea where countries such as Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam and the Philippines have territory and accompanying territorial waters, yet China seeks to claim sole rights to said territories and waters, and to bar international maritime traffic.

This is more of the same.

Re: Peak China?

Brewster's Angle Grinder

China has become Xi Jinping's fiefdom. He's surrounding himself with loyalists - i.e. yes men who tell him what he wants to hear. We've seen this often enough to know how it ends; one only needs to look at Russia. It didn't have to be this way. But he seems to have made too many enemies and left himself with nowhere to go.

Air safety is an International issue

Ball boy

Messing about with flight control systems is foolish in the extreme: international flights pass over that region and, God forbid, if something happens then the world will take notice.

One the plus side, aircraft have multiple systems to inform the crew of their position. While some are not as accurate as the GPS-driven ones, they'll give enough data to provide for straight and level flight over a fairly short distance (enough to take them out of range of the interference). Alerting pilots to the risk so they can plan accordingly is sensible while ATC will most likely increase the spacing margins to allow for any inaccuracy in positioning.

However: trying this idiotic stunt near a fog-bound airport and it really would be a disaster waiting to happen.

Joining the dots

Bebu

There is a history of similar sort of nonsense with PRC warships directing high powered lasers at Australian surveillance aircraft (and I think an NZ aircraft too.)

Not too difficult to join the dots between the recent AUKUS submarine arrangments and this foolishness.

I am not too impressed with the deal either - I figure in for a penny, in for a pound AU need to either go the full monty or forget it - a bit of a bugger for non-proliferation.

The system was down for backups from 5am to 10am last Saturday.