Intel rattles the tin for another €5B in subsidies to build German fab
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- News link: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2023/03/08/intel_magdeburg_subsidies/
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The chip giant announced early last year that it had [1]selected a site at Magdeburg in eastern Germany to build a new mega-fab after considering various locations across Europe. A few months later, it was announced that Intel was to [2]receive €6.8 billion in subsidies from the German government, covering about 40 percent of the construction costs.
But the Santa Clara company now wants more, an additional €4-5 billion ($4.2-5.3 billion), according to Bloomberg, which cites the usual "people familiar with the matter" as its source.
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Last month, it was reported that Intel had [4]approached the German economy minister in hopes of securing an extra €3.2 billion in subsidies.
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The latest move comes after the company hinted that it was going to [7]delay construction of the Magdeburg facility in December, with a spokesperson saying at the time it could not give a definitive date for when work would begin, blaming "geopolitical challenges" and the rising cost of energy and raw materials.
Intel had previously stated that construction at the site would begin sometime in the first half of 2023, and it was planned for the facility to come online and production to start in 2027.
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We asked Intel to corroborate the figures in these latest reports, but the company declined to be specific, with a spokesperson repeating to us that "since we announced plans to build a new semiconductor fab site in Magdeburg, Germany, disruptions in the global economy have resulted in increased costs, from construction materials to energy."
The company also declined to confirm when work would begin on the Magdeburg plant.
However, Intel said it was "committed to the project" and pointed to its [9]signing off on the purchase agreement back in November for the land where the semiconductor manufacturing facility will be built.
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"Intel and the German government share the same objective: to build a more globally resilient supply chain by strengthening Europe's semiconductor manufacturing capabilities," the spokesperson told us.
According to Bloomberg, Germany's Federal Ministry for Economic Affairs is prepared to support the semiconductor industry with several billion euros, but that any additional sums would need to be approved by the European Commission.
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The latter is because the subsidies will be approved as part of the [15]European Chips Act , which aims to secure funding to boost the semiconductor industry within the EU, with the goal of doubling the bloc's market share to about 20 percent of global semiconductor production by 2030.
"We appreciate the constructive dialogue with the federal government to address the cost gap that exists with building in other locations and make this project globally competitive," Intel said in its statement.
Richard Gordon, Gartner vice president for semiconductors and electronics, told us: "It sounds like Intel has initiated another round of negotiations based on the changing business environment."
"No doubt Intel feels that is has a strong negotiating position due to increased competition from other countries to attract semiconductor inward investment."
Gordon speculated that in addition to subsidy cash, Intel may also try angling for the EU to sweeten the deal by providing incentives that may not have been offered so far, such as energy subsidies, streamlined bureaucracy around areas such as planning, or other exemptions.
Intel [16]reported a $700 million loss and revenues down 32 percent during the chipmaker's calendar Q4 for fiscal 2022 due to declining demand in the desktop and laptop markets amid the wider economic downturn. ®
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[1] https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/28/intel_magdeburg_chip_fab/
[2] https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/08/intel_germany_tsmc/
[3] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/systems&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2ZAi-NT7TL@XHhX-dUiVlDwAAAAw&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0
[4] https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/09/intel_10b_german_fab/
[5] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/systems&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44ZAi-NT7TL@XHhX-dUiVlDwAAAAw&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0
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[7] https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/19/intel_german_fab_delay/
[8] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/systems&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44ZAi-NT7TL@XHhX-dUiVlDwAAAAw&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0
[9] https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/opinion/future-chip-demand-demands-future-capacity.html
[10] https://www.theregister.com/2023/03/08/intel_fpga_agilex/
[11] https://www.theregister.com/2023/03/08/chinese_self_reliance/
[12] https://www.theregister.com/2023/03/06/intel_delays_gpus/
[13] https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/28/us_chips_conditions/
[14] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/systems&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=3&c=33ZAi-NT7TL@XHhX-dUiVlDwAAAAw&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0
[15] https://www.theregister.com/2022/11/24/eu_chips_act_funding/
[16] https://www.theregister.com/2023/01/27/intel_q4_2022/
[17] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/
Re: Fab-ulous
Cos those are legacy nodes and not the shiny and sparkly new 7nm or whatever they are doing these days.
Yes, we DESPERATELY need capacity in old node sizes outside of China and Taiwan but 1) its dull and 2) shortage of supply = higher price.
Intel threw off $7.6 BILLION in 2022. They no more need to suck at the public teat than brick.
you pay to build it, we take the money
I am staggered at all these private companies that want money to build the very things they need, or to bail them out when it all goes a bit wrong and have never provisioned or planned for the future. If I was the German gvt, I would be demanding a shit load of shares so I can get some decent divi's and expect a return at some stage in the future.
Re: you pay to build it, we take the money
Why would Intel agree to that?
The whole point is that it is cheaper for Intel to build in other countries, if Germany wants the fabs to be in Germany then it need to pay Intel to cover the extra expenses that Intel will incur by building in Germany.
Re: you pay to build it, we take the money
Presumably if Intel agree to build this plant they will get fined in the USA for illegal state help - so Intel need the extra money to make up for the losses in the US market
Re: you pay to build it, we take the money
There's no group quite like American corporations when it comes to asking for public money and then using every trick in the book to avoid paying taxes on the profits derived from the 'investment'.
As for shares, these cash values are a little over 5% of Intel market cap so maybe a 5% shareholding seems equitable - don't hold your breath!
Intel is asking for a few billions ?
Intel full-year 2022 revenue : [1]$63.1 billion .
You're going to have a hell of a job convincing me that they need more money to generate revenue.
[1] https://www.intc.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1600/intel-reports-fourth-quarter-and-full-year-2022-financial
Re: Intel is asking for a few billions ?
Somebody think of shareholders!
Blackmail
This one is legal, incredibly.
So, where are the corruption charges?
Ericsson was "fined" (I call call it demanding money with menaces) by the US government: (https://www.theregister.com/2023/03/03/ericsson_fined_again_by_doj/).
Subsidy = legalised brown envelopes.
Fab-ulous
So fab is one thing, but what Intel is actually going to be making?
The same legacy CPUs that they just rebrand year on year and put some fresh lipstick on?
Why don't Germany get a fab for ST going, where there are actual shortages?