Microsoft makes Outlook Mac native email app a freebie
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- News link: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2023/03/07/microsoft_makes_outlook_mac_native/
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The standalone app works across multiple email platforms and was refreshed with tweaks. These include the ability to "set your meetings to always be Teams meetings", which allows you to set them to start or end a few minutes earlier or later; the ability to reply to messages without opening a new compose window; and "Quickly resend the same message again" for the passive aggressive types.
You'll need macOS version 10.14 (Mojave) and later to run it.
Job cuts at HQ
According to a [1]WARN notice filed by Microsoft and made public yesterday, 689 people at its Redmond, Washington headquarters and nearby areas will receive pink slips.
The cuts are part of the [2]10,000 global layoffs announced by the company on January 18th, amounting to 5 percent of its staff. All of the affected employees will be informed by the end of this month, the Windows giant said in an SEC filing at the time.
Microsoft is not alone in shedding employees as tech companies face straightened conditions post a COVID boom that saw unprecedented levels of hiring. [3]Atlassian has just announced a similar 5 percent reduction in its workforce, although for the collaboration upstart this amounts to 500 souls. [4]Ericsson , [5]Twilio , [6]SAP , [7]Zoom , [8]Dell and [9]Alphabet have also cut their workforces over the past few months.
The move comes against the backdrop of a huge push by Microsoft to make its iconic email platform more web-centric. As such, one of the first comments on the TechCommunity page was the moan: "And you're saying Mac users get a native version for free while Windows users will have to deal with a PWA (Progressive Web App)?"
Meanwhile, the Windows giant has also clarified it does not expect to update Outlook for Mac to a PWA, with Outlook product manager Jeremy Perdue [10]commenting on the announcement: "Just to be clear, the new Outlook for Mac is a native macOS app. Microsoft plans to continue building and maintaining best-in-class native apps on macOS and iOS. There is no plan to build a web app version of Outlook for Mac."
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Perdue also noted that the freebie app would be "ad-supported when using a non-licensed account" - so you can expect to see some in-app purchases pushed.
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Another wag on Reddit pointed out that the timing was interesting, coming as it does just weeks after the [13]revamp of [14]beloved open-source cross-platform email client Thunderbird : "They're rebuilding Thunderbird from the ground up so maybe MS thinks they need to do it to remain 'sticky'," quipped [15]halfanothersdozen .
[16]We give up, Progressive Web Apps can track you, says W3C: After 5 years, it decides privacy is too much bother
[17]Global network outage hits Microsoft: Azure, Teams, Outlook all down
[18]Microsoft signals cloud cash grab is over as it pushes more cost-effective Azure VMs
[19]Microsoft reportedly mulls a does-everything 'super app' to expand mobile search
In 2022, Microsoft released a preview of its completely overhauled Outlook for Windows client as it moves towards a "unified" look across all of its platforms, based on the design of the Outlook.com web app. It has been publicly testing the revamped email app for Windows since May last year. Redmond updated its [20]Microsoft 365 Roadmap last week to say the toggle to try the preview of the new Outlook for Windows will be available to customers with access to the classic Outlook for Windows and a Microsoft 365 subscription as soon as April. The toggle has been available for Insiders since May 2022. The Outlook Windows app is based on the web version and has been described as a hybrid of this and desktop Outlook, albeit with a refreshed design and a some welcome extra features.
Also known as [21]Project Monarch , or the “One Outlook” client, it is being developed with the aim of bringing consistency across Outlook's Windows and web codebases. ®
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[1] https://esd.wa.gov/about-employees/WARN
[2] https://www.theregister.com/2023/01/18/microsoft_job_cuts/
[3] https://www.theregister.com/2023/03/07/atlassian_fires_500/
[4] https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/25/ericsson_layoffs/
[5] https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/13/twilio_trims_workforce/
[6] https://www.theregister.com/2023/01/26/sap_3000_job_cuts/
[7] https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/08/zoom_fires_15_percent_staff/
[8] https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/06/dell_job_cuts/
[9] https://www.theregister.com/2023/01/20/google_to_chop_12000_employees/
[10] https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/outlook-blog/outlook-mac-for-all/ba-p/3757787
[11] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/applications&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2ZAfCFiqr-mopC3XBZDZ2owAAAJU&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0
[12] https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/03/07/outlook_mac.jpg
[13] https://blog.thunderbird.net/2023/02/the-future-of-thunderbird-why-were-rebuilding-from-the-ground-up/
[14] https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/14/thunderbird_115_supernova_complete_overhaul/
[15] https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/11kbjmc/outlook_mac_for_all/
[16] https://www.theregister.com/2020/07/31/w3c_progressive_web_app_privacy/
[17] https://www.theregister.com/2023/01/25/network_issues_causing_outage_in/
[18] https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/22/microsoft_cheap_azure_vms/
[19] https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/07/microsoft_super_app/
[20] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/roadmap?filters=In%20development%2CLaunched%2CNew%20Last%20Week%2CCurrent%20Channel&searchterms=outlook
[21] https://www.theregister.com/2022/09/29/outlook_for_windows_app_insider/
[22] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/
Re: Does it slurp my data?
You are correct, if you set it up to work with a non-MS IMAP server then everything is synced to MS' own servers.
No need for that unless they're slurping.
Re: Does it slurp my data?
It is worse than that.
I commented on this once before. I tested this with logs, without any shadow of a doubt. If you set up an IMAP account for $thirdparty email server, the logins come from MS and not from where you have Outlook installed. This means, 100% without a shadow of a doubt, that your password has been uploaded to MS and is available to them in clear text. I know this from the authentication methods supported on at least one of the IMAP servers - they only have LOGIN and PLAIN configured. It doesn't matter that MS may encrypt the passwords. To login, they MUST send the password in readable form.
MS has access to your password in clear text.
Native app? No, it’s a 950MB PWA!
ad-supported, in app purchases?
.... tacky!
Well, Outlook is in its latest incarnation a complete bag of shite.
It was not bad 5 years ago, but now the search is mentally challenged. Today I clicked one row and it selected another. Quite often it freezes my entire PC to mouse input. If it's not also blocked keyboard input you can do a Windows-Esc to get the task manager up to kill it.
It really is fucking junk and I am actively looking for an alternative for the firm I work for for both Outlook and Office 365 exchange servers.
Re: It really is fucking junk
Some of our clients have moved from MS365 to Google Workspace, and so are we, and for what it offers it has proven to be a reliable product which has been working fine all the times MS365 had another service outage. Google Apps have also come a long way, and have replaced MS Office for our Google Workspace migrated clients.
As for a better email client, though, that's difficult. Our clients and we use Macs and Linux, and on mac OS Apple Mail has been working better than Outlook for Mac ever did. On Linux we have some users on Evolution and others on Thunderbird (and I believe a few on other email programs). Others just use the standard Google Mail web interface. If I had to use Windows, I'd probably do the latter as well (Gmail web).
Absolutely no way
There is no way on Earth I let a Microsoft product render my machine just as unsafe as a Windows box. My machine is quite happy with open standards based applications that integrate nicely with anything-but-Microsoft (i.e. pretty much any other groupware facility on the planet).
Ditto for Adobe, btw - once I had a look at the network traffic that was spewing I decided to remove it all again, and that would have been a *lot* of work as it splatters itself all over the system. But that's why I make backups.
So, nice try, Microsoft, but no cigar. And thanks, BTW, for the decision to start charging for Teams, now our customers are far more receptive to Jitsi installs. Well done, clever move :).
it's Exchange, not Outlook
A typical Exchange deployment actively prevents the use of any kind of standard email client, or even WebDav for the other stuff.
On Linux, Evolution with EWS works tolerably well, provided you (or, in my case, rather fortuitously, someone else) has set up the arcane OAuth2 parameters appropriately. If the docs don't help you here, then they haven't.
On Android, TypeApp is astonishingly capable of connecting to Exchange and frustratingly incapable of doing anything remotely useful with that. There's a Windows version too, if you're really Outlook-averse.
-A.
Re: it's Exchange, not Outlook
DavMail [https://davmail.sourceforge.net/] could be useful here.
It is a proxy / bridge that connects Microsoft's dumb shit to actual industry standards like IMAP(s), SMTP(s), etc.
Does it slurp my data?
What a stupid question. Lookout as part of Office does so...
Avoid unless you really have no alternative.