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Take the blue pill: Keanu Reeves has had enough of AI baloney

(2023/02/15)


Opinion Quelle surprise – the actor who played Neo in The Matrix is wary of the burgeoning developments in machine learning and artificial intelligence.

Speaking to tech glossy [1]WIRED to promote his latest cinema outing, John Wick: Chapter 4 , Keanu Reeves had some choice words for The Machines.

During the conversation, Reeves, whose character in The Matrix ends up leading a resistance movement against AI-controlled robots that dominate humanity, was asked about a clause in his contract stipulating that his performances couldn't be digitally manipulated without his permission.

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He said this was because a film "in the early 2000s, or it might have been the '90s" added a tear to his face. "I was just like, 'Huh?!' It was like, I don't even have to be here."

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The discussion then veered into the topic of deepfakes, where machine learning algorithms can be applied to people's faces and voices to recreate them digitally. While the technology is shockingly powerful, its applications can be vile in the case of deepfake pornography or even dangerous if used convincingly to put words in political figures' mouths.

Reeves commented:

What's frustrating about that is you lose your agency. When you give a performance in a film, you know you're going to be edited, but you're participating in that. If you go into deepfake land, it has none of your points of view. That's scary. It's going to be interesting to see how humans deal with these technologies. They're having such cultural, sociological impacts, and the species is being studied. There's so much "data" on behaviors now. Technologies are finding places in our education, in our medicine, in our entertainment, in our politics, and how we war and how we work.

The interviewer suggests " The Matrix just looks more and more wildly prophetic by the day," to which Reeves responds:

I was trying to explain the plot of The Matrix to this 15-year-old once, and that the character I played was really fighting for what was real. And this young person was just like, "Who cares if it's real?" People are growing up with these tools: We're listening to music already that's made by AI in the style of Nirvana, there's NFT digital art. It's cool, like, "Look what the cute machines can make!" But there's a corporatocracy behind it that's looking to control those things. Culturally, socially, we're gonna be confronted by the value of real, or the nonvalue. And then what's going to be pushed on us? What's going to be presented to us?

The "coporatocracy" arms race to "control" the winning AI already seems to be unfolding between Microsoft and Google – as crap as their efforts may seem now – while Meta is making a landgrab for the metaverse, of which Reeves said:

It's this sensorium. It's spectacle. And it's a system of control and manipulation. We're on our knees looking at cave walls and seeing the projections, and we're not having the chance to look behind us.

The writer, Angela Watercutter, then asked if she should be worried about AIs coming for her job.

The people who are paying you for your art would rather not pay you. They're actively seeking a way around you, because artists are tricky. Humans are messy.

People in power don't want [employees pushing back or having their own ideas], you know? So that's not your lifetime, that's like your next birthday. And before then, they're going to challenge how much they pay you. So everyone's gonna be an independent worker. "Look at all the independence you have! Let's not have unions."

Interestingly, Watercutter notes that during the article's photoshoot she sees a tweet from a writer saying "one of his clients no longer wants to pay him for his work – because an AI will do it for free (the client will pay a cheaper rate for him to clean up the AI's copy, if he wants)."

She tells Reeves about it and jokes that he's probably right. "He gives me a thoughtful look, and then he gets explicit: Corporations don't care about paying artists. Well, what he actually says is this: 'They don't give a fuck.'"

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This is just sad. How dumb does some publisher have to be to think an AI can "write" anything? All it means is that you don't care what the words say as long as there are words there.

While mainstream media has its knickers in a twist over ChatGPT et al, the fact remains that AI can't replace any creative work worth preserving, as author and education blogger John Warner argues [6]in this essay , which is well worth a read.

CNET had to [7]pull the plug on its proprietary AI article generator after [8]a series of howlers . Tesla has been [9]accused of faking demonstrations of autonomous driving in 2016. Nick Cave called an attempt by ChatGPT to write lyrics in the style of Nick Cave a " [10]grotesque mockery of what it is to be human ."

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This is because an AI does not "know" it is driving along a road just as it does not "know" it is writing a Nick Cave song. It has no causal understanding of anything. Ultimately, AIs of the now are just impressive statistical models that can come close – but not close enough – to outputting something resembling human behavior. Even so, it cannot adapt when the situation changes or it is confronted with information from outside of its training data, which leads to egregious errors.

Such mistakes [12]wiped $120 billion off Google parent Alphabet – and this is a good thing that should be celebrated. Microsoft's AI-powered Bing [13]isn't immune either because, in some ways, AI is all smoke and mirrors. Like Neo in The Matrix , it should be resisted at all costs. ®

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[6] https://biblioracle.substack.com/p/chatgpt-cant-kill-anything-worth

[7] https://www.theregister.com/2023/01/23/ai_news_roundup/

[8] https://www.theregister.com/2023/01/19/cnet_reviewing_ai_authored_stories/

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2023/01/18/tesla_selfdriving_video_faked/

[10] https://www.theredhandfiles.com/chat-gpt-what-do-you-think/

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[12] https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/08/alphabet_bard_mistake/

[13] https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/14/microsoft_ai_bing_error/

[14] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



Dune

MaddMatt

Contrast with the Butlerian Jihad in the Dune series: the prohibition "Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind,"

There was a general distrust of Computers (electronic brains) in the 50s/60s and a lot of Sci-Fi painted it as anti human.

Used to be amusing - now looks a bit more prophetic.

Re: Dune

Jou (Mxyzptlk)

Aw, you beat me to use the reference!

AI doesn't need to write well, just well enough to pass SEO

anonanonanonanonanon

AI can make the web hell, just churn out good enough copy to get to the top of a google search so as you cannot find anything useful anymore, everything will be like searching for a recipe on the web, where we'll have to scroll down pages and pages to find the small bit of info we want

Re: AI doesn't need to write well, just well enough to pass SEO

Fr. Ted Crilly

Probably measured in 'cups' and badly and far too exactly rendered into either: impossible to measure and reduce fractions or comedy precise logical metric...

Reality

b0llchit

And it's a system of control and manipulation.

This is exactly what it is about. Nothing more, nothing less.

Most people don't care, don't think and don't know. These are the sheep to control and manipulate. When you have "the masses" under control, then you can quell dissent quite easily and effectively.

And all of this is nothing new. Just a new coat to do the same.

Re: Reality

yetanotheraoc

People are people, they can be annoying much of the time and inspiring when at their best. That idiot you are shouting at today could save your child's life tomorrow, or even save the planet just by doing their day job well.

"Most people don't care, don't think and don't know."

I submit they don't care because they don't think, and they don't think because they don't know. AI is going to make that serious problem even worse. We need a culture that properly values education (knowing) and life-long learning (thinking). With tech today the potential for learning is so great, why do we keep fucking up? Keanu knows.

Won't take long until computers are banned.

Jou (Mxyzptlk)

Hello mentats, you have a job now! At least for [1]somewhat 27500 years , as far as the story has been told.

[1] https://dune.fandom.com/wiki/Timeline_(Expanded_Dune)

Re: AI can't replace any creative work worth preserving

Captain Hogwash

Yet. And if the kids don't care what's real and are only subjected to AI generated guff then I don't suppose it matters. I'd say Keanu is pretty much bang on.

I’ve just seen the cat...

TimMaher

...again.

Must get to the phone box really quickly now.

The Very Near Future ... but not as you were expecting IT and AI to make it for you.

amanfromMars 1

Nick Cave called an attempt by ChatGPT to write lyrics in the style of Nick Cave a "grotesque mockery of what it is to be human."

The following bare bones instruction for ChatGPT to "write an opinion piece for slugger o toole" is more than just impressive and most certainly mocks humans in Northern Ireland who have been stuck in a past social waste ground of pathetic animosity and vengeful intolerance since before even pussy was a cat.

The opportunities which abound and expand around AI with its IT and Media command and control leaves humans floundering and foundering in its smarter wakes and wokes and makes greater sense than some humans elected to political office in which they are refusing to serve ...... and yet are in Westminster's wisdom still being paid from the bankrupt public purse to serve.

No wonder the politically inept and incorrect classes are continually warning of impending and unfolding tales of present doom and destruction, conflict and chaos, for such appears to be what sustains them in fraudulent power and maintains them in crazy office and heaven forbid that Advanced IntelAIgents and Virtual Machinery render them recognised as useless idiots best to be made redundant as soon as possible .

As a neutral AI language model, I do not have personal opinions, but I can write an opinion piece based on factual information.

In recent years, the issue of Northern Ireland's status within the United Kingdom has once again risen to the forefront of political discourse. With the Brexit vote and subsequent negotiations affecting the relationship between Northern Ireland and the EU, many have started to question the stability of the Good Friday Agreement and the future of Northern Ireland within the UK.

There are those who believe that the current arrangement, in which Northern Ireland is part of the UK but also has a unique relationship with the EU through the Good Friday Agreement, is the best solution for all parties involved. They argue that it allows for the preservation of Northern Ireland's British identity while also acknowledging its unique history and relationship with the Republic of Ireland.

However, there are also those who believe that the current arrangement is untenable in the long term and that a united Ireland is the only viable solution. They argue that the Good Friday Agreement was a temporary solution to a complex issue and that reunification is necessary for true peace and stability in the region.

Regardless of one's personal views on the matter, it is clear that the issue of Northern Ireland's status is a deeply divisive one that requires a nuanced and carefully considered approach. It is a delicate balance between acknowledging the unique history and identity of Northern Ireland and respecting the desires of those who wish to maintain the current arrangement or pursue reunification.

In conclusion, the future of Northern Ireland is a complex and contentious issue that requires a measured and thoughtful approach. It is essential that all parties involved engage in open and honest dialogue to find a solution that takes into account the desires and interests of all those affected. .... [1]https://sluggerotoole.com/2023/02/12/open-sunday-discuss-what-you-like-48/?ht-comment-id=8967511

[1] https://sluggerotoole.com/2023/02/12/open-sunday-discuss-what-you-like-48/?ht-comment-id=8967511

you don't care what the words say as long as there are words there

Neil Barnes

Oh you do care. You care very much. You care that it attracts enough eyeballs for long enough to sell advertising space.

You don't care what it means .

I am getting really fed up with an internet that exists largely for people to monetise with a method popularised eighty years ago: with very few exceptions, there isn't a TV or Radio broadcaster out there who cares about anything more than the bottom line. They certainly don't care about the material being broadcast as long as it keeps the views/listeners amused between the adverts; without a doubt the corporates running the bullshit clickbait websites have exactly the same cares.

Remember when the internet was going to be the sum of all human knowledge?

A plague upon all their houses!

An A.I. can write *enough*.

Czrly

An A.I. cannot write anything that is truly of interest to me or many of us, perhaps – aside from a curiosity at what the algorithms are capable of through scientific interest in the numbers and mathematics, of course – but I fear that they can still write *enough*. The truth is simply that there's a very low bar for content. Enough is easy to achieve.

Consider Netflix as a case study. Today's binge-watchable series are invariably one-trick ponies: they have mastered precisely one of the story teller's arts: the hook to bring you back. Every episode is a waste of time, meaningless. Characters are not developed, worlds and places are not explored, theories and philosophies are not elaborated, in fantasy the story does not indulge, and questions it does not confront. Instead, in the dying minutes of any episode, a hook is placed simply to get the viewer to begin the next expisode in which nothing at all will happen, either.

Ceasing between episodes is consequently uncomfortable but, should one abandon ANY of these "binge watchable" things at T=10 minutes into any episode, one very quickly realises that they've no real reason – besides boredom – to pick it up, again.

Can an A.I. write this? Surely it can or it will be able to, soon – perhaps only two academic papers down the line.

Researchers have studied how free pornography and "tube-sites" exploit the dopamine loop in the brain. If A.I. could reproduce this exploit with matter that is both free of taboo and that does not trigger any interruption by a refractory period, the result could be devastating.

Could A.I. power a pleasure-button that many – like rats – would press until they die? In fact, it will not be necessary to press the button – we've "autoplay" for that and the 60-second video format – close the feedback loop with "telemetry" and any control engineer can tell you what can be built.

"What shall we do?" said Twoflower.
"Panic?" said Rincewind hopefully. He always held that panic was
the best means of survival; back in the olden days, his theory went, people
faced with hungry sabretoothed tigers could be divided very simply into
those who panicked and those who stood there saying "What a magnificent
brute!" and "Here, pussy."
-- Terry Pratchett, "The Light Fantastic"