No more free love: Netflix expands account sharing restrictions
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- News link: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2023/02/09/netflix_sharing_restrictions/
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While a date hasn't been set for wider rollout, Netflix said in a [1]blog post yesterday that it had flipped the switch in Canada, New Zealand, Portugal and Spain to turn on features it claimed aren't really detrimental to users, and will give them "greater control over who can access their account."
But make no mistake why Netflix is doing this: of the more than 200 million Netflix subscribers, "over 100 million households are sharing accounts – impacting our ability to invest in great new TV and films," Chengyi Long, Netflix's Director of Product Innovation, wrote.
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Live yesterday in those four countries were requirements for Netflix users to set a primary location for their account "ensuring that anyone who lives in their household can use their Netflix account," device management features that let account holders manage usability in different locations and devices, account transfer features, and the ability to buy sub-memberships for up to two people in the household that don't live at the primary location.
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Sharing feature availability differs based on the Netflix account tier one subscribes to, naturally.
[5]Transmission FOSS BitTorrent client hits version 4.0
[6]Netflix changes CEO-sharing arrangement, teases paid password-sharing
[7]BBC is still struggling with the digital switch, says watchdog
[8]Netflix to crack down on account sharing, offer ad-laden cheaper options
The fees for additional users in the four newly restricted countries run CAD$7.99, NZD$7.99, €3.99 in Portugal and €5.99 in Spain – notably more expensive than [9]similar sub-membership plans launched last year in South America, where Netflix tested the new features.
That 31-day login threat wasn't a lie either
Netflix has been talking about restricting account sharing for [10]some time – a complete 180-degree shift from its [11]earlier position that "love is sharing a password."
A recent sign that things were changing came earlier this month when a [12]now-removed Help Center intended for share-restricted users in Chile, Costa Rica and Peru went live for other countries that indicated users had to log into their accounts from their primary location once every 31 days to ensure they're able to maintain access.
With so many different policies in so many different countries now, it's easy to see how Netflix might make such a mistake, but fears over wider rollout of the 31-day restriction appear justified based on Canada's newest help pages for [13]setting a primary location and accessing an account [14]while traveling .
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On the traveling page, Netflix states that those who travel frequently or own a second home should open the Netflix app on a mobile device "while connected to the Wi-Fi network at your primary location once a month and then when you arrive at the second location."
There's no mention on the page, unfortunately, of what happens if one can't login to their home location inside that 31-day period, and Netflix hasn't responded to our requests for comment.
Of course, such restrictions raise questions of who gets to define [16]what a household is , or how it's distributed across different physical locations, and Netflix's restrictions may very well impact customers in ways the company hasn't considered.
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For those worried about the headache that Netflix subscriptions are sure to bring in the coming months, we would suggest you do not use this [18]old-fashioned alternative for making naughty copies, although you might want to investigate its legal uses. Many [19]local libraries also carry streaming offers and will loan out movies and series. ®
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[1] https://about.netflix.com/en/news/an-update-on-sharing
[2] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/networks&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2Y@V7E4U@3Rcez5vgkt153QAAAEY&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0
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[5] https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/08/transmission_bittorrent_v4/
[6] https://www.theregister.com/2023/01/20/netflix_q4_22/
[7] https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/16/bbc_still_struggling_with_digital/
[8] https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/20/netflix_account_sharing_crackdown/
[9] https://about.netflix.com/en/news/update-to-paid-sharing
[10] https://www.theregister.com/2023/01/20/netflix_q4_22/
[11] https://twitter.com/netflix/status/840276073040371712
[12] https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2023/02/03/netflix-anti-password-sharing/
[13] https://help.netflix.com/en/node/128339/ca
[14] https://help.netflix.com/en/node/24853/ca
[15] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/networks&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44Y@V7E4U@3Rcez5vgkt153QAAAEY&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0
[16] https://pluralistic.net/2023/02/02/nonbinary-families/#red-envelopes
[17] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/networks&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=3&c=33Y@V7E4U@3Rcez5vgkt153QAAAEY&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0
[18] https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/08/transmission_bittorrent_v4/
[19] https://www.worldcat.org/
[20] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/
Did you know you can register your netflix account on another country where tariffs are lower, just by using the proper VPN, and use it from there on where you actually live?
Now you know.
roaming
My home internet is a mobile wifi device from my ISP. So I don't have a static IP address, and my non-fixed location is a random city in the coverage area. I guess if I wanted to use Netflix for more than 31 days, VPN would be my only option.
Re: roaming
I would imagine the algorithm is looking that all the users in your account connect through the same connection at some point.
If it's just you then there's no change
If there's others, it sounds like in your scenario they'll connect using your WiFi
If you didn't have home WiFi and you all connect through your own devices then you're stuffed (unless they do Bluetooth proximity, in which case it's time to get the tinfoil out)
Did you know you can torrent anything worth watching on Netflix?
Now you know.
Yes. Raspberry Pi running Tor proxy, browser using that for access to search sites, same Pi running miniDLNA, 10 year old Samsung smart TV.
I do know an ERP technical sales guy who lives exclusively out of hotels. All of his apartment furniture was placed in a storage container as he was seldom home to enjoy it. Most of his hotel stays are paid by end clients needing his services and he only foots the bill himself 1-2 days a month. He's perfectly happy with that situation, as he pockets his paycheck and expenses laundry / meals. He makes the company a packet, so they are happy too.
Got that email this morning in Canada.
Largely won't affect me but one of my daughters who lives away sometimes uses it so it will probably impact her.
Honestly, I can see where Netflix is coming from, as regards their revenue, but as Cory Doctorow has described in his commentary on this issue, it is indeed very difficult to define what a household is.
Also Netflix, if you are worried about revenue, stop funding bullshit woke crap and stick with the stuff that has been very popular. Netflix "originals" have been a very mixed bag, some extremely good, some embarrassingly awful and a lot somewhere in the middle. And copying popular films/series never works, stop doing it.
Infinitely worth every penny. Division by zero error!!!
I remember the music industry counting every torrent download as a lost sale. I assume Netflix has similarly overestimated its worth in the households that don't pay.
Dynamic ip address
Most domestic services have dynamic ip address, so what is your 'home' ip? Will I lose service when my router reconnects? Am I expected to pay for a fixed address?
I have 3 homes
Two of which are basically dumpy fishing camps, but they have Internet & Roku's. If Netflix makes this too inconvenient, I'll just drop them. Between Apple TV & Amazon Prime, I can do without Netflix.
€3.99 in Portugal and €5.99 in Spain
Hey, Reg, get with it. In general in Europe the currency symbol goes after the amount, not before.
3.99€ in Portugal and 5.99€ in Spain
Yes, but they are wrong.
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In that case why have you got decimal points there instead of commas?
Let's just stick with English localisation if we're writing in English.
Not having a Netflix subscription, I can't make a reasoned judgment on why anyone would want one.
I suppose this is where the "password-sharing" thing comes in.
Still, a couple of years ago some rellies visited and made use of their own accounts on my telly.
So I have to admit that I have actually seen some Netflix content.
And I still can't imagine why anyone would pay for it. You're all right with your password sharing; I'm not in the slightest bit interested.
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Make it even slightly difficult
to use an OPTIONAL service, and customers will drop their accounts in droves.
Not that it matters to me, I use Hulu.