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Meta, which pays for web scraping, sues to stop web scraping

(2023/02/03)


Meta Platforms has sued an Israel-based web scraping firm called Bright Data for scraping data from its Facebook and Instagram websites – even though Meta paid Bright Data to scrape data from other websites.

This legal battle kicked off earlier last month when the two companies in fact sued each other. Meta two months prior had sent a cease-and-desist letter to Bright Data demanding that it stop collecting what the scraping firm characterizes as public data.

Bright Data disagreed with Meta's interpretation of its data collection rights and the two then headed to court – Meta seeking to halt Bright Data's data harvesting, and Bright Data seeking declaratory judgment from the court that gathering publicly accessible data from Facebook's website is lawful.

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Bright Data filed its [2]complaint [PDF] under seal, having been unable to get an answer from Meta about maintaining confidentiality.

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But Meta's own [5]complaint [PDF], via its accompanying exhibits, ended up disclosing the information Bright Data had redacted, a message from Bright Data citing the business relationship between the two firms: "Meta has long been a valued client of our proxy and scraping services for at least the last six years."

Meta, when it operated as Facebook, made a habit of suing [6]people [7]accused of web [8]scraping , and of [9]blocking experts' access to Facebook data. It also, per prior court documents, operated [10]a program called Project Lighthouse through which it obtained data from partners to augment its ad systems. Yet, the social ad biz turned VR shop paid Bright Data for the sort of data gathering it now asks the court to stop.

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In short, Meta has managed to expose its habit of harvesting data from other websites by suing a company it hired to do just that on its behalf.

[12]Once again, Facebook champions privacy ... of its algorithms: Independent probe into Instagram shut down

[13]Facebook is one bad Chrome extension away from another Cambridge Analytica scandal

[14]TikTok no worse than Facebook for privacy, says Citizen Lab (although Chinese TikTok is a horror)

[15]Facebook apologizes to users, businesses for Apple’s monstrous efforts to protect its customers' privacy

[16]Poor Meta. Technical debt and user training made its exabyte-scale data migration tricky

In response to the media [17]spotting the legal wrangling, Meta communications director Andy Stone [18]claimed : "Bright Data was stealing people’s personal info and selling it; that’s not okay and it violates our rules.

"By contrast, finding harmful websites and identifying phishing operations – what we did – is not only helpful but important for companies like us to do. Those two activities aren’t the same thing and it’s irresponsible to suggest that they are."

Facebook's rules, for what they're worth, allowed developers to access all sorts of Facebook user data before the Cambridge Analytica scandal came to light.

Bright Data for its part insists it's not obligated to follow Meta's rules because it searches only public data and has not agreed to the internet goliath's terms of service.

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"This case is all about public data: whether the public has the right to search public information, or whether Meta can use the courts as a tool to eviscerate that right, even where Meta does not own the data at issue and has no property rights in it," Bright Data said in its [20]motion [PDF] to unseal its complaint.

"If Bright Data loses this case, the losers are not just Bright Data but the public, whose rights are being taken away." ®

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[2] https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/02/02/pacer_bright_data_v_meta.pdf

[3] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44Y9yU9Jl--YbzzXzCdQoADQAAAJg&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

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[5] https://regmedia.co.uk/2023/02/02/pacer_meta_v_bright_data.pdf

[6] https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/25/facebook_sues_man_for_scraping/

[7] https://www.theregister.com/2021/01/17/facebook_lawsuit_portugal/

[8] https://www.theregister.com/2020/11/20/facebook_instagram_lawsuit/

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/04/facebook_research_lockdown/

[10] https://twitter.com/jason_kint/status/1567648880291880960?s=20

[11] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44Y9yU9Jl--YbzzXzCdQoADQAAAJg&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[12] https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/13/algorithmwatch_shut_down/

[13] https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/17/chrome_meta_token/

[14] https://www.theregister.com/2021/03/23/tiktok_privacy_report_citizenlab/

[15] https://www.theregister.com/2020/08/27/facebook_ios_ads/

[16] https://www.theregister.com/2023/01/27/meta_tulip_technical_debt/

[17] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-02/meta-was-scraping-sites-for-years-while-fighting-the-practice

[18] https://twitter.com/andymstone/status/1621164428849971202

[19] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=3&c=33Y9yU9Jl--YbzzXzCdQoADQAAAJg&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[20] https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ded.81291/gov.uscourts.ded.81291.12.0.pdf

[21] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



Ergo

Winkypop

Don’t put your personal data on the Internet.

Confused?

John Brown (no body)

a message from Bright Data citing the business relationship between the two firms: "Meta has long been a valued client of our proxy and scraping services for at least the last six years."

So, in a legal filing, with the publicly accessible bit redacted in their own claim, made visible in the Facebook claims, Bright Data don't seem to be able to check the status of their client. Facebook, and definitively state when the contract started, give or take about a year? Don't they keep proper records of contracts and payments?

That doesn't bode well for Bright Datas side of the case. Although I'd be happy for this one to run on and on for years through higher and higher courts, even if it does mean the lawyers get rich since it'll be two "scum sucking bottom feeders" duking it out at their own expense.

You just can't make this shit up.

jake

One wonders why anyone, anywhere, trusts any of these shysters with anything important.

Anonymous Coward

Social ad behemoth insists what it does it okay ... and what others do is not

Works for the Catholic church.

GloriousVictoryForThePeople

"This case is all about public data: whether the public has the right to search public information,

Since when are paid creepers, "the public"?

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo.