Only iPhone 15 Pro models will have higher data transfer speeds on USB-C – analyst
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- News link: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2022/11/17/iphone_15_usb_c_speeds/
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Writing on Twitter today, he [1]said (translated from Chinese): "My latest survey pointed out that all 2H23 new iPhones have abandoned Lighting and changed to USB-C, but only two high-end iPhone 15 (15 Pro & 15 Pro Max) are equipped with wired high-speed transmission specifications, and the two standard iPhone 15 (15 & 15 15 Plus) wired transfer speed specs are still the same as Lightning (USB 2.0)."
He went on to claim that the Pro and Pro Max's transfer speeds will "improve markedly" due to support for "at least" USB 3.2 or Thunderbolt 3. USB 2.0 is limited to 480Mb/s, [2]USB 3.2 can pull up to 20Gbps, and Thunderbolt 3 supports up to 40Gbps.
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The Apple soothsayer claimed that this "specification upgrade and new trend will drive Apple's ecological demand for high-speed transmission chips and competitors' imitation (almost all Android phones only support USB 2.0) ... and will benefit the growth of [the] high-speed transmission IC design industry."
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If Kuo turns out to be correct, it's a cynical move by Apple, which was forced to switch from its proprietary Lightning standard to USB-C [6]by the European Union's move to standardize on the spec, as it would be pushing more people to upgrade to pricier options with the carrot of higher performance numbers.
[7]Apple exec confirms iPhones will switch to USB-C because 'we have no choice'
[8]Apple exec confirms iPhones will switch to USB-C because 'we have no choice'
[9]USB-C to hit 80Gbps under updated USB4 v. 2.0 spec
[10]Apple remembers it makes iPads, updates fondleslabs
[11]USB-C iPhone, anyone? EU finalizes charging standard rule
[12]USB-C to hit 80Gbps under updated USB4 v. 2.0 spec
The EU's rationale was to reduce electronic waste – a position that Apple has repeatedly challenged since the millions of Lightning charging cables in circulation will gradually be rendered useless as people upgrade. But surely it can't complain too much when its MacBooks and iPads have already made the leap?
The iPhone is the last bastion of control for Apple. The vendor wants control over how people use its products and who can make Apple parts, and won't want to compete with others on products for its own phones (a Lightning to USB cable costs as much as $19 through Apple's website). But with the law change in Europe, a market too lucrative for Apple to give up, the wall around that "walled garden" may have a small crack.
Apple exec Greg "Joz" Joswiak [13]confirmed the transition last month , telling The Wall Street Journal : "Obviously we'll have to comply, we have no choice."
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None of this has or will be substantiated by Apple until its official launch events, probably in H2 2023. But Kuo, who works as analyst for TF International Securities, has a network of contacts in Apple's Asian supply chain whose intel he includes in client research notes.
[15]Although he is not always right , he is widely regarded as one of the most reliable sources for what's coming down Apple's pipeline. ®
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[1] https://twitter.com/mingchikuo/status/1593052338138550272
[2] https://www.theregister.com/2022/09/02/usb4_v2_80gpbs/
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[6] https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/04/eu_usbc_charging/
[7] https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/27/apple_usbc/
[8] https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/27/apple_usbc/
[9] https://www.theregister.com/2022/09/02/usb4_v2_80gpbs/
[10] https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/18/apple_new_ipad_pro/
[11] https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/04/eu_usbc_charging/
[12] https://www.theregister.com/2022/09/02/usb4_v2_80gpbs/
[13] https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/27/apple_usbc/
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[15] https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/12/apple_lightning_usbc/
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Re: Lightning
It's the only way on tradeshow floors.
Wifi never works once there are customers about
More importantly, accessories like FLIR cameras etc need a wired (and preferably powered) connection.
It will be great to see accessories that fit both iPhone and Android
Re: Lightning
The "We committed to supporting lightning for a decade" argument is much stronger, particularly since they did that with the 30pin connector as well - and in the timeframe of those two Apple specs I must have had more than a dozen crummy connectors from other manufacturers.
Yeah, for all the flak they get Apple have had 2 connectors in the space of 19 years. It's not that bad really.
Moving to USB-C is the right thing to do now though.
Coby > Apple
Now? You mean was, in 2018?
Apple is the slowest computing company on the planet, how they're worth more than [1]Coby Electronics Corporation (defunct in 2013) is a mystery to me.
For 2023... Coby > Apple
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coby_Electronics_Corporation
Re: Coby > Apple
Coby - that name rings a bell. Sure enough, the LCD picture frame in my kitchen is a Coby unit. Still works fine, but its clock runs quite fast, so I don't have that enabled in the display (plus, in that mode, it cycles through images too fast and wears out USB sticks).
The battery in the remote keeps dying, so I replaced the whole setup a few years ago. The replacement died within a few months, so I went back to the reliable Coby.
On the issue of using cables with a phone: this computer is a deskside and has no radio stuff, so getting pics off my phone requires the cable. I have an old cheapie laptop, but my fingers, trained on real typewriters, detest trackpads and laptop keyboards. And even if I got stuff to my laptop, I'd end up using a thumb drive from there to this machine anyway!
Re: Lightning
The transfer speed means nothing if it's the underlying software that limits its capabilities. When (USB) synching between idevices and Mac it takes an age to do the photos because it checks every one of my 10'000+ images for changes instead of having a top-level catalog track changes so it only has to sync changed images. Even if I've not changed or added any images to either device, synching photos still takes ages because of this poor behaviour. It wouldn't matter if the transfer speed went up by a factor of ten - it's crap software. I leave photo-synch turned off and only enable it when I've made changes that I need to synch.
Re: Lightning
> How many people use wired data transfer to/from a phone nowadays anyway?
Most people don't, but those who do will appreciate the extra speed.
The 2015 iPad Pro featured a Lightening USB 3 host, but the only USB compatible accessory was a camera adaptor. Clear market and use case - photographers in the field using cameras that create large uncompressed files. Not most people.
Non 'Pro' iPads only had a USB 2 host.
That of course is iPads, importing big files to be viewed and edited. I suspect iPhones are more likely to be exporting big files generated by their cameras.
Transfer speed means nothing
..when buyers are forced to save a few hundred $ by buying the lowest capacity model, and with the usual zero future upgrade.
This got me thinking, when was the last time I actually transferred anything at all over a cable to my phone? I charge it one of those magnetic mats most of the time, and transfer everything by wifi. Does the transfer speed of the cable matter a great deal?
The tone of this article is ridiculous. Yeah, sure, making the highest-end device more capable than the lowest-end device is some sort of evil plot.
Silicon
If it's like recent updates, the non-pro models will use the processor from the previous pro models.
If the USB is integrated on the SoC, is seems perfectly reasonable to expect that it will be USB 2. Not the case if it uses an external device, of course.
Lightning
Was always going to be abandoned at some point so the "existing stuff will be obsolete" argument never held much sway with me.
The "We committed to supporting lightning for a decade" argument is much stronger, particularly since they did that with the 30pin connector as well - and in the timeframe of those two Apple specs I must have had more than a dozen crummy connectors from other manufacturers.
How many people use wired data transfer to/from a phone nowadays anyway?