Self-driving tech startup values crash 81% in 2 years
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- News link: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2022/10/18/selfdriving_tech_values/
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Crunchbase, which tracks startup valuations and investments, [1]said in its report on the market that self-driving technology companies experienced a funding boom in 2020 and 2021, "but investors' love affair with the space didn't last."
Several of the companies revved fast with vast reserves of funding from well-known investors but pedigree and investors can't save new companies from market forces.
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For perspective, the S&P 500 index is up more than six percent since October 2020, and Facebook and Snap – two tech stocks that have spectacularly nosedived lately – are down 50 and 62 percent, respectively.
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Crunchbase used Embark Technology as something of an example of the self-driving dip. The startup sells software for autonomous semi trucks. Tiger Global and Sequoia Capital were counted among its early backers when the company privately raised $117 million. An additional $614 million made as part of its IPO took Embark to a valuation of $5.2 billion when it went public.
"Just a year after its debut, Embark is valued at less than the cash reserves it had at the end of its last quarter. Shares are down a whopping 97 percent from their debut price," the report noted.
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As to whether poor profits were a factor in the sudden loss of valuation and investor flight, the overview noted that possibility can be immediately discounted. "No one is dumping shares in these companies because profits are down. They never had profits in the first place," said report author Joanna Glasner.
The biggest loser is … LiDAR
None of the companies on Crunchbase's list are faring well – the best off among them lost 50 percent of its valuation – but a bunch with the largest losses have a common theme. Three are involved in developing light detection and ranging (LiDAR) technology for self-driving cars.
Quanergy, the overall largest loser, has dumped 99 percent of its stock value and declined from an IPO valuation of $1.1 billion to a mere $16 million. Crunchbase noted that Quanergy completed a reverse stock split to consolidate some value "only to see further valuation declines."
The reason for LiDAR's decline in the self-driving vehicle tech sphere isn't immediately clear, and Crunchbase didn't respond to our questions. One possible reason could be that LiDAR, in its current iteration, simply isn't suited to use in self-driving cars – Elon Musk has thought so for years.
In 2019, Musk described LiDAR as "stupid, expensive and unecessary" and predicted it would be dumped by self-driving companies in the near future. Nissan has also expressed [6]reservations about LiDAR in self-driving cars, at least in their current iteration, due to high costs and limited capabilities.
[7]Foxconn shows off pair of EVs, boasts of bulk orders for last year's model
[8]California legalizes digital license plates for all vehicles
[9]People still seem to think their fancy cars are fully self-driving
[10]Will Intel's Mobileye IPO drive further fab funding?
Former Tesla chief AI scientist Andrej Karpathy said in 2021 that LiDAR creates complications by requiring pre-mapping of a route and the need to insert lane and traffic light information on top of the LiDAR map to create an accurate picture of the world.
"It's unscalable to collect, build, and maintain these high-definition LiDAR maps. It would be extremely difficult to keep this infrastructure up to date," Karpathy [11]said in 2021. Tesla reportedly had a contract with LiDAR company Luminar (also on Crunchbase's list, lost 65 percent) [12]as recently as 2021 , but newer Tesla vehicles [13]are said to rely on the company's own computer vision system.
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LiDAR hardware has also been a bottleneck for autonomous vehicles, with the costs of some units running [15]as high as $85,000 in the case of LiDAR boxes manufactured by Velodyne Lidar, another of the companies listed in Crunchbase's report.
Velodyne has lost 95 percent of its valuation since its IPO, Crunchbase reported. In 2017, a spokesperson for then-private Velodyne told The Register that he wasn't comfortable disclosing the prices for the company's LiDAR units (the $85k figure came from a Velodyne client), but said the prices would decrease once large volume shipments began.
Five years on, it's looking like Musk's prediction is the one beginning to bear fruit. ®
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[1] https://news.crunchbase.com/transportation/self-driving-tech-startups-funding-ipos/
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[6] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nissan-lidar-autonomous/on-the-radar-nissan-stays-cool-on-lidar-tech-siding-with-tesla-idUSKCN1SM0W2
[7] https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/18/foxconn_ev_expansion/
[8] https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/11/california_digital_license_plates/
[9] https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/11/cars_not_self_driving/
[10] https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/03/intel_mobileye_ipo_fabs/
[11] https://venturebeat.com/business/tesla-ai-chief-explains-why-self-driving-cars-dont-need-lidar/
[12] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-24/tesla-testing-luminar-laser-sensor-musk-called-fool-s-errand?sref=ExbtjcSG
[13] https://www.tesla.com/support/transitioning-tesla-vision
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[15] https://www.theregister.com/2017/05/18/lidar_backlog/
[16] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/
Re: Overvalued by people who don't know what they were valuing
>We had the dotcom bubble. This is the AI and ML bubble.
And yet we now have ubiquitous internet and smart phones, instant virtual finance services and online delivery of every product we use .
Re: Overvalued by people who don't know what they were valuing
> Sun's market valuation at peak
"At peak" for a HW company in a niche market.
Would you have paid 10x earnings for ARM in 1993?
A VC and their cash are soon parted.....
I guess (subconsciously) people are thinking "Humans don't need active sensors to drive"
And they're right.
That said it seems like a quick fix to help the problem.
FSD is hard, all those Waymo cars still need a team of IT pros to monitor it and control it and Tesla is far from activating FSD beta for more people.
Companies value
Just a year after its debut, Embark is valued at less than the cash reserves it had at the end of its last quarter. Shares are down a whopping 97 percent from their debut price
If the C-Suite at Embark believes their company is worth the debut price the logical thing to do would be using those cash reserves to buy back as many shares as they can get hold of.
Wonder why this doesn't happen ...
Coincidentally?
SMBC's strip for today
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Expensive Snake Oil
So the markets have lost $42billion to glitzy PowerPoint and hype.
I know that there is little enthusiasm for intervention in markets, but situations like this are nuts.
Economies need investors to be savvy about what is good and what is bad. Self driving cars have clearly always been a bad idea unlikely to succeed, yet that has not stopped Persons B, hoping to get rich quick, being persuaded to part with $42billion and give it to Persons A in return for some really very glossy brochures.
It's legalised pump and dump, with "technology risk" being the thing that makes it all okay. If it were a financial scheme people were being encouraged to invest in, there'd be accusations of fraud and court cases
Sure, caveat emptor and all that, but that's $42billion not invested in other ventures more likely to succeed. This kind of thing keeps happening, and it's money not leading to economic growth. It's become too easy to fool investors with techno glitz. The tech industry has got a few such tech frauds on its hands, and sooner or later governments are going have to intervene if the markets to keep the crazy ideas at bay.
Glad I've not wasted any time or money on it.
Overvalued by people who don't know what they were valuing
We had the dotcom bubble. This is the AI and ML bubble.
Remember the words of Scott McNealy about the madness surrounding Sun's market valuation at peak. This is a partial quote, you can search for the rest: "At 10 times revenues, to give you a 10-year payback, I have to pay you 100% of revenues for 10 straight years in dividends. That assumes I can get that by my shareholders. That assumes I have zero cost of goods sold, which is very hard for a computer company. That assumes zero expenses, which is really hard with 39,000 employees..."
A quick way to grab some lucre these days is to put the letters AI or ML on something. Somebody gullible out there will buy it. That doesn't mean that all AI and ML things are essentially worthless snake oil, but a lot of things simply do not measure up.