Charge a future EV in less than five minutes – using literally cool NASA tech
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Using a technique known as "subcooled flow boiling," this technology could boost the amount of electrical current today's EV chargers are able to supply to automobiles, by improving the transfer of heat from the charging cables, the US space agency [1]explained on Tuesday. That would dramatically reduce the amount of time taken to charge a vehicle.
NASA reckons a current of at least 1,400 amps would be enough to charge a car within five minutes. To put this in context, advanced chargers available to science and industry today only deliver currents up to 520 amps, while most chargers on the market for consumers "support currents of less than 150 amps."
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A team at Purdue University, headed by mechanical engineering professor Issam Mudawar and sponsored by NASA's Biological and Physical Sciences Division, said it has achieved 2,400 amps along a cable using subcooled flow boiling, far more than what would be required to charge an EV in five minutes or less. Note that this was a lab experiment with just the cable: a vehicle in the real world would need a suitably rated battery and power supply as well as a cooled cable to achieve that sub-5 minute charge.
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The academics' cable design, we're told, could be used "to deliver 4.6 times the current of the fastest available electric vehicle chargers on the market today by removing up to 24.22 kilowatts of heat." That 4.6 figure is from taking 2,400 amps and dividing it by the 520 amps of an advanced charger.
Purdue visiting assistant professor of mechanical engineering VS Devahdhanush, who worked with Mudawar on the project, said the Purdue team has worked with NASA for more than a decade, in which Mudawar and his group have studied several different two-phase fluid flow and heat transfer models, including subcooled flow boiling.
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"During this period, we have learned a lot about these physical phenomena," Devahdhanush told The Register .
NASA is certainly interested in the boffins' subcooled flow boiling, and applied the technique in its Flow Boiling and Condensation Experiment ( [6]FBCE ) that ran on the International Space Station in August of last year and was designed to test the technology in a microgravity environment.
In NASA's FBCE experiments, a series of devices are used to direct non-conducting dielectric fluid into a channel where superheated devices are mounted. As heat is generated by the devices, the liquid in the channel heats and eventually begins to boil. As the liquid boils, bubbles form on the walls and shoot off at high frequency, which moves liquid from the cooler toward the hotter side.
A breakdown of the space station's FBCE experimental equipment ... Images: NASA
"This process efficiently transfers heat by taking advantage of both the liquid's lower temperature and the ensuing change of phase from liquid to vapor," NASA said, noting that it works even better when the dielectric fluid is chilled well below the boiling point.
How cold fluid can fast-charge EVs
One of the biggest drawbacks to current EV technology is charging speed: hours can be added to a long trip while the car is being charged – if, and when, chargers can be found.
The Purdue team proposed adding subcooled flow boiling tech to EV fast charging cables – not an entirely new design, as liquid-cooled EV charging cables already exist but are limited in capability, NASA said.
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"Charging cables for conventional, 350-ampere, 'fast charging' systems require sizable conductors, rendering the charging cable quite heavy and inconvenient for customers to maneuver," NASA said. Additionally, those chargers are only able to output a fraction of the energy needed to charge an EV in the same amount of time it takes to get a full tank of gas.
In [8]2017 , the Purdue team also began working with Ford Motor Company, eventually developing a cable design that premiered [9]late last year that incorporated subcooled flow boiling.
"The NASA FBCE experiments and results did inspire some aspects of our EV-cable-cooling experiments, especially by contributing to our [10]technical [11]know-how on this physics," Devahdhanush told us.
Devahdhanush said this fast-charging tech isn't exactly ready for rollout, and the exact time-to-market of subcooled flow boiling cables depends on support from government agencies and industrial partners willing to invest in the tech.
While still in the research phase, Devahdhanush said, "We are presently working with several automobile component manufacturers to further improve and implement this technology."
Devahdhanush now serves as the assistant director at Purdue University's Electric Vehicle Charging and Thermal Management research center, where he, Professor Mudawar, and a team "are engaged in research and are presently discussing with several entities to finalize R&D efforts related to several components of the EV charging process and the EVs themselves." ®
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Battery on most EV's are already liquid cooled/heated.
You can't use Li batteries below about 4deg otherwise
Of course not saying that would cope with dumping 100kw into it !
Feels like a Friday already
by removing up to 24.22 kilowatts of heat.
Watt a waste! But combine with a Seatback system to convert that heat into electricity, and you'd get around 291kW of electricity*, or around 24.20kWh of extra charge by using a soon to be patented regenerative charging system
Alternatively, physics says 'NO!', and people wonder why more fast charging stations are catching fire due to the challenges of dissipating 24.22kW of heat, without increasing global warming. Apparently NOAA and the CRU are keen to collocate new weather stations alongside charging stations.
*Because everything green is 97%.
Re: Feels like a Friday already
Perhaps that should be re-written ...
"by removing up to 24.22 kilowatts of heat and conveniently sweeping it under the carpet."
Advances in electric vehicle technology? I'm amped for it...
I expect there will be a lot of resistance. People are being forced to go electric with great reluctance. The general public's capacitance for this kind of nonsense has about maxed out.
2400A cable
And a mass produced plastic socket in the car and a plug on a cable that's out in all weather and is plugged and unplugged 100s times a day by random idiots users
Charge rates much beyond the current 350kW aren't really necessary... we're already battery limited, 350kW is 20+ miles per minute (350kW * 3m/kWh = 1400 miles/hour)
Most cars can't take that much current even when it's available (half of the charger is in the car, half is on the side of the road).
If stopping every three hours for ten minutes is too much then you probably shouldn't have a license.
My EV says it averaged 6.8KM/KWh, so at 100km/h (60mph) that's 14.7 KW
So with a 400V DC fast charger I need a constant 36A from a Scaletrix slot down the middle of the road - that's probably unreasonable
Back to my previous solution of a metal grid 8ft above all roads and every one drives bumper cars
Then along comes a 11ft tall lorry !!!
"If stopping every three hours for ten minutes is too much then you probably shouldn't have a license have a long commute in heavy traffic.
Or in LA stopping for 3hours every 10mins
Or pretty much anybody who drives stuff around for a living.
People who drive stuff around for a living have to follow quite complicated rules about how long they can drive for without taking a substantial break.
Like I say, the rules are complicated, but a legal driving pattern would be two hours followed by a 15 minute break, then 2.5 hours followed by a 30 minute break.
The longest you can drive in a normal day is for 4.5 hours, then you MUST take a 45 minute break, then you've got another 4.5 hours, then you're done until you've had an 11 hour rest.
The takeaway is that "driving 3 hours and stoping for 10 minutes" would be in breach of working driving rules - too short a break for a start.
Those details are only true (maybe) in your jurisdiction.
Typically such rules only apply to people who drive for a company or belong to a union, not to individuals working for themselves.
"If stopping every three hours for ten minutes is too much then you probably shouldn't have a license."
Interesting. Let's analyze this...
1. he's assuming that there are a _lot_ of possible charge points. Why? Because if there aren't a lot of possible charge points, a good fraction (30 minutes? More?) of that 3 hours will be taken up by looking for a charge point, or you'll have to plan your journey by available charge points, or both. I can find a petrol station in short order... and my car will go a lot further than 3 hours before I have to refuel. (Toyota. 12 gallon tank. 34 miles per gallon. That's 400 miles, at 70 mph that's 5.8 or so hours.)
2. who's paying for this charge? At current electric rates _someone_ is going to have to pay a packet for charging over time. Yes, the individual charge is low... but it adds up. And it's more than what the current price of petrol is, at least around here. (I refiled my car yesterday. $2.99/gallon, 87 octane. That's $36 for just under six hours, or just over $6/hr. FPL would charge at least $40 for the power. Note that when the price of petrol goes up, so does the price of electricity, even if most of FPL's power is nuke and natural gas.)
3. it doesn't take 10 minutes to refill the tank. It doesn't even take 5 minutes.
So... I would have to make twice as many stops, after finding charging stations and/or going out of my way to get to charging stations, and pay more, and take four times the time (twice the time, twice...) and if I don't like this, I shouldn't have a license?
Yeah. Right.
Don’t try this at home
I think of our electricity supply as reasonable at 20.7kVA. We would need an upgrade.
I guess the idea would be of more interest for service stations, but they would also be in for an upgrade of their supply. Imagine a dozen of those!
Re: Don’t try this at home
Good point, so I guess I'm not going to be able to charge my Pixel phone in 2ms then?
I wonder why this idea was never applied to filling up the car petrol tank? Just replace the car petrol tank opening with one that's 24 inches wide and we'd see the same "improvement" ...
Basically this concept just sounds like threatening an occasional big bang at the recharging station.
Re: Don’t try this at home
"Basically this concept just sounds like threatening an occasional big bang at the recharging station."
That's not a bug, it's a feature.
And another one to add to the collection
Like a lot of silly ideas it magically gets 'credible' when the magic words Gerbil Worming get added. No doubt the cooling concept might be useful in some contexts, but not this one.
How would they cool the batteries? I assume that they'd get pretty hot with all the current going into them. I could see how putting cooling systems (which I assume are bulky and might involve nasty stuff like liquid nitrogen) into the chargers which don't move is feasible, but not the car's battery without making the car massive.
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