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Zuckerberg: Yes, Facebook kept Hunter Biden's laptop under wraps

(2022/08/26)


Facebook limited the visibility of the New York Post's story about Hunter Biden's laptop on the social media platform while it was being fact-checked after receiving warnings of disinformation campaigns from the FBI, Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg told the Joe Rogan Experience on Thursday.

Zuckerberg took to the former Fear Factor host's podcast – one of the most popular in the world – where he discussed virtual reality, content moderation, and the polarization of America for nearly three hours.

The Meta CEO said the FBI approached the social media company just prior to the 2020 US presidential election to inform it of "some kind of dump," similar to 2016 pre-election propaganda, and warned it to be on "high alert."

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He then detailed how Meta suppressed the story from appearing in user feeds on the grounds of it being potential misinformation, while third-party fact-checkers determined its truthfulness. "I think it was five or seven days when it was basically being determined whether it was true or false. The distribution on Facebook was decreased, but people are still allowed to share it, so you can still share it. You could still consume it," said Zuck.

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"Basically the ranking and newsfeed was a little bit less, so fewer people saw it than would have otherwise," added the CEO. He said he could not recall by what percentage its visibility was reduced, but called it "meaningful."

Zuckerberg clarified there was a distinct difference between Facebook's content moderation strategy and Twitter's.

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"Our protocol is different than Twitter's. What Twitter did is they said you can't share this at all. We didn't do that."

BREAKING: Mark Zuckerberg tells Joe Rogan that Facebook algorithmically censored the Hunter Biden laptop story for 7 days based on a general request from the FBI to restrict election misinformation. [5]pic.twitter.com/llTA7IqGa1 — Minds💡 (@minds) [6]August 25, 2022

While the laptop was indeed abandoned at a repair shop, there is [7]no public indication the laptop holds evidence of any wrongdoing or controversy.

[8]Turns out there is something everyone may agree on in Congress: Let netizens use mostly algorithm-lite apps

[9]Facebook CEO puts picture of himself wearing too much sunscreen on new board

[10]America's EARN IT Act attacking Section 230 is back – and once again threatening the internet, critics say

[11]Zuckerberg wants to create a make-believe world in which you can hide from all the damage Facebook has done

While on the podcast, Zuck also revealed details of Meta's Project Cambria, including that it would be released in October 2022.

First [12]teased in October 2021, the next-gen immersive VR headset will be kitted out with sensors, including eye-tracking that improve the user's non-verbal communication, or what Zuck calls "social presence."

The CEO said that the tech would also be able to portray a smile or a frown to other users, a feature that might come in handy for someone often accused of being a bit too robotic.

The CEO's tendency to [13]hang out in the [14]uncanny valley was also up for discussion on Thursday.

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"I don't like the way you sip water though," said Rogan of Zuckerberg's 2021 Congress appearance. "You were sipping water like a robot."

"The Senate testimony is not exactly an environment that is set up to accentuate the humanity of the subject," Mr Zuckerberg said.

The head of Meta also revealed that although the company is moving forward in its metaverse goals, he does ultimately see the value of in-person interaction, and feels that will never be entirely replaced with technology.

Zuckerberg then dropped his biggest confession of the three hours. "I see people everyday," confided the CEO enthusiastically. ®

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[7] https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/12/now-warning-about-hunter-biden-laptop-disinfo-guy-who-leaked-it/

[8] https://www.theregister.com/2021/11/10/congress_algorithm_law/

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/25/facebook_ceo_reveals_new_board/

[10] https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/02/earnit_act_section230/

[11] https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/29/zuckerberg_meta_facebook/

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"Hunter Bidens Laptop"

Anonymous Coward

appears ot be the US analog of

"But Jeremy Corbyn"

in the UK.

That is the flimsiest of gossamer coverings that allow right wing racist bigots to justify being "forced" to support Trump [Johnson]

Re: "Hunter Bidens Laptop"

Anonymous Coward

Clearly someone not signed up to the principle behind Positive Twitter Day

Re: "Hunter Bidens Laptop"

ThomH

Yeah, it was an attempt to recapture the magic of 'But Her Emails!' for 2020. Mishandling of official communication matters a lot, unless it's a Republican doing it.

In all probability they'll be back in charge of the House as of next January so expect endless investigations and committees on Hunter Biden's laptop, along with plenty of hearings in which the committee members take turns to give twenty-minute non-fact-checked discourses with a nominal question mark at the end.

Re: "Hunter Bidens Laptop"

Anonymous Coward

The GQP want to prosecute Hunter and Joe Biden for what was supposedly contained on that laptop.

I have to ask how many hands has it been through already and was a chain of custody maintained?

Then there is the US thing called 'Statute of Limitations' If these crimes were allegedly committed then No 46 was Veep then the cut-off date must be close to happening.

I'd like to see some actual policies from the GQP and not just a plan to spend the next two years on a plethora of witchhunt, fire the entirety of the DOJ, IRS, EPA and a dozen other agencies.

Oh, and carry on banning things that 99.99% people don't have an issue with all while praying homage to No 45 as Mar-a-Lago

The Republican Party & Hunter Biden

deadlockvictim

Because we loathe corruption, self-advancement and the misuse of power, and we will do all in our power to root it out.

Hunter Biden & his Laptop — America's Biggest Threat.

Re: The Republican Party & Hunter Biden

Anonymous Coward

If you rooted out corruption in governments you'd just be left with the cleaners in the building!

Voting has become a case of picking the least worst with a downward trend as to the definition of 'least worst'.

Re: The Republican Party & Hunter Biden

The Man Who Fell To Earth

"When you choose the lesser of two evils, always remember that it is still an evil." - Max Lerner

Re: The Republican Party & Hunter Biden

Anonymous Coward

"Because we loathe corruption, self-advancement and the misuse of power, and we will do all in our power to root it out."

Unless the subject of this loathe is orange.

Colour blindness is a genetic fault, I assume your corruption blindness is too.

Re: The Republican Party & Hunter Biden

steviebuk

Everything that Trump did, ironic.

A Dutch saying

Danny 5

We have a saying in Dutch: "Zoals de waard is, vertrouwt hij zijn gasten", which transpates to "an innkeeper will only trust his guests to the level of his own trustworthyness" People that keep pushing this whataboutery the hardest are likely the most corrupt themselves.

Re: A Dutch saying

Google

Or in this case the inn keeper is Facebook and it doesn't trust its users to make up their own mind.

Make of that what you will.

Re: A Dutch saying

Oglethorpe

That sounds like DARVO. By the same standard, the Steele Dossier is evidence of the Democratic Party receiving illegal help from a hostile country in 2016, which seems pretty nonsensical to me.

Re: A Dutch saying

Anonymous Coward

Well, it's only a saying. And as such sayings go, whether Dutch or not, that doesn't mean it is always true, or always untrue, but only that it might be true-ish in a general sense, ... but mainly the relevance is not an absolute true/false thing, but that the sort of thing indicated by the saying might be worth keeping in mind as a possibility.

Re: A Dutch saying

Oglethorpe

To me, it just seems like a cheap way to cast baseless doubt. It reminds me of the slimy individuals who accuse male feminists of being generally predatory towards women.

Re: a cheap way to cast baseless doubt.

Anonymous Coward

Oh! I didn't realise it was a "Dutch saying" in the same way we have "Dutch uncle", "double Dutch", "Dutch oven", "Dutch courage", and various other things, where for rather cobwebby historical reasons involving an Anglo-Dutch war or whatever, "Dutch" was pre- or post-pended to various then-contemporaneous English terminology in order to imply it was intrinsically bad or to cast baseless doubt. I just thought the subject of our conversation was a saying sometime used by our (now) very great fiends in the Netherlands.

On the whole, it's probably not considered very suitable to use "Dutch" in that way any more. So it's just as well you use the less-problematic "slimy" instead.

:-)

Re: A Dutch saying

Lars

Versions of that saying you probably find in every language.

For instance, "don't judge others by your own standards".

And in Swedish and German. "genom sig själv känner man andra", and "man soll nicht von sich auf andere schließen".

And for a Finnish, a more interesting one , Ryssä on Ryssä vaikka voissa paistaisi".

Google

Apparently the story was explosive enough for Greenwald (Of Snowden, Citizen 4 fame) to resign from the organisation (The Intercept) he helped setup:

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/my-resignation-from-the-intercept

"Publication of that initial New York Post story provoked a highly unusual censorship campaign by Facebook and Twitter. Facebook, through a long-time former Democratic Party operative, vowed to suppress the story pending its “fact-check,” one that has as of yet produced no public conclusions. And while Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey apologized for Twitter’s handling of the censorship and reversed the policy that led to the blocking of all links the story, the New York Post, the nation’s fourth-largest newspaper, continues to be locked out of its Twitter account, unable to post as the election approaches, for almost two weeks."

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/article-on-joe-and-hunter-biden-censored

"I see people everyday," confided the CEO enthusiastically.

cookieMonster

Sounds exactly like what I’d expect a robot to say

Oh, jolly good...

Mike 137

" he does ultimately see the value of in-person interaction, and feels that will never be entirely replaced with technology

That's nice to know seeing how 'influential' he is, and he's right in at least one critical respect. Were in-person interaction to be entirely replaced with technology of the metaverse kind, the human species would become extinct.

Narrative checker

elsergiovolador

These so called "fact checkers" should really be called "narrative checkers" where you can see if the current information is compatible with the narrative.

The science is settled on that.

Why do people ignore facts?

adobob

Hunter Biden's laptop shows that his father was setting up his son jobs in China, Ukraine, US, etc, and taking massive kickbacks as a result of that. The other stuff (Hunter's crack addiction and pay-for-sex and racism just show us the quality of the Biden family). There there is the rape allegations against Joe Biden, all suppressed by the MSM. Joe Biden is easily the most incompetent President in US history, with vast evidence to show that. It's amazing how people on here (Labour voters no doubt) will bend over backwards to ignore all of the vast corruption in the Biden family, all of the lies and misinformation from Biden and the Biden administration and continue to froth at the mouth due to their Trump Derangement Syndrome. I don't care if you don't like Trump, that's irrelevant, he's a narcissist, but you are an incompetent fool and lacking in intellect if you do the "but but but Trump!" whataboutism when it comes to the *massive* corruption of the currently sitting President of the USA.

Nice guys finish last.
-- Leo Durocher