AMD has a lot riding on its 5nm Ryzen 7000 CPUs. And so here begins the hype
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Ryzen 7000, now [1]slated to debut August 29, represents the end of an era for AMD as it retires its AM4 platform and pin-grid-array (PGA) socket.
The 7000-series processors see AMD employ an LGA socket for the first time in its mainstream PC lineup. The company already uses LGA sockets with its Epyc and Threadripper processor families, which sport up to 64 and soon [2]128 processor cores .
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All of this means that for the first time since Ryzen’s debut, the latest chips won’t be pin compatible with their predecessors. In the past, customers could expect to get several generations of CPU support out of their motherboards with the help of BIOS updates.
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A peek under the integrated heat spreader reveals why AMD likely chose to retire AM4 now. Ryzen 7000 is the first generation of AMD processors built on TSMC’s 5nm manufacturing process node, features an all-new Zen 4 microarchitecture, and supports DDR5 memory and PCIe 5.0. And unlike Intel’s Alder Lake, AMD's new consumer chips aren’t [6]expected to be backwards compatible with the older DDR4 standard.
Power delivery likely played into the decision as well with the upcoming chips reportedly consuming 65-plus watts of additional power compared to their 5000-series predecessors. Leaked specs show the top tier Ryzen 9 7900X and 7950X consuming up to 170 W of power compared to the 105 W of their predecessors.
Everything we know about Ryzen 7000 so far
If [7]recent leaks are to believed, Ryzen 7000 will deliver a substantial performance uplift over the now nearly two-year-old Ryzen 5000 processor family.
Detailed specs obtained by Wccftech [8]show the new chips boast base clocks at least 1 GHz higher than the chips they replace. And in many cases, the processors' base clocks now exceed their 5000-series equivalent's boost clocks.
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For example, the leaks indicate AMD’s entry-level Ryzen 5 7600X will have a base clock of 4.7GHz, between 50-100 MHz higher than the the 5600X’s max boost clock.
[10]Specs leak of 5.7GHz AMD Ryzen 7000 chips with double the L2 cache
[11]AMD boasts of record sales, says 5nm Zen 4 Ryzen 7000 coming this quarter
[12]This tiny Intel Xeon-toting PC board can take your Raspberry Pi any day
[13]AMD to end Threadripper Pro 5000 drought for non-Lenovo PCs
As we mentioned before, the higher clock speeds, come at the cost of higher power consumption, with the upcoming chips expected to consume 40 to 65 W more power than their predecessors.
It doesn’t appear AMD will be boosting core counts with this generation, and will stick with its spread of six, eight, 12, and 16-core processors. While disappointing for those looking for even more threads to thrash, it also indicates AMD won’t be following Intel and Arm’s lead in moving to a big-little core architecture just yet.
The leaks did offer some insight into the chip’s Zen 4 microarchitecture and compute complex die (CCD) arrangements. AMD appears to be sticking with an eight-core CCD for the Zen 4 generation, but will see the chip designer double the L2 cache to 1MB per core, up from 512KB in Zen 3. Larger caches and instruction per clock tick (IPC) improvements often go hand in hand.
As to whether the new chips will support overclocking remains to be seen. AMD has a long-standing history of unlocking overclocking on even its lowest-end chips. However, especially with the 5000-series, the value of manual overclock has been called into question as AMD’s boost algorithm has improved.
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What we don't know is whether AMD will stick with previous pricing conventions or if the House of Zen will juice prices to offset slumping demand.
AMD needs Ryzen 7000 to wow
This latest teaser, which comes just under two weeks before the launch, is hardly surprising given the trajectory of AMD’s PC sales.
On the company’s second quarter earnings call earlier this month, Su [15]predicted the PC sales would slide to “let’s call it mid-teens” in Q3. The company also predicts a similar down turn for GPU sales during the quarter, with Su betting on the launch of AMD’s Ryzen 7000-series CPUs and RDNA3 GPUs to turn things around in Q4.
Speaking of AMD’s upcoming GPU launch, AMD’s teaser makes no mention of its next-gen GPU platform or the company’s Epyc-4 refresh also slated for release later this year. However, given the direction of its PC and gaming sales, it’s hardly surprising to see AMD space these announcements out.
The “together we advance PC” livestream will premiere at 1900 ET Monday, August 29 on AMD’s [16]YouTube Channel . ®
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[1] https://www.amd.com/en/press-releases/2022-08-16-amd-to-host-livestream-event-to-unveil-next-generation-ryzen-processors
[2] https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/02/amd_q4_2021/
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[6] https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/23/amd_zen4_am5_mendocino_computex/
[7] https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/04/amd_ryzen_7000/
[8] https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-9-7950x-ryzen-9-7900x-ryzen-7-7700x-ryzen-5-7600x-cpu-specs-leaked-up-to-16-zen-4-cores-5-7-ghz-boost-170w-tdp/
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[10] https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/04/amd_ryzen_7000/
[11] https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/03/amd_q2_results/
[12] https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/16/intel_asus_singleboard/
[13] https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/20/amd_threadripper_pro/
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[15] https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/03/amd_q2_results/
[16] https://www.youtube.com/c/AMD
[17] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/
Would make sense
As they wring whatever process improvements they can out of the existing core design and fab line, as they will want to sell cpus for both remaining unsold Mobos, OEM deals and warranty replacements, and upgrades for existing customers.
That will probably include me as I'd rather stretch a partial upgrade now and wait till they have tamed the power leakage a little more, as I am not trying to stay on the bleeding edge right now. But the platform looks solid, and early or late to the party, this will be one of the generations that will probably be good for a few years for those that like longer refresh cycles.
I was reading a few weeks ago that they may be set to release more X3D variants of the 5xxx line. The 5800X3D CPU is a pretty impressive beast of a CPU... So much that I'm considering getting one as the final upgrade on my AM4 system built in April 2020... No plans for a ground up rebuild until at least 2025 seeing as I've must picked up a 6900XT for over £200 below MSRP, have an X570 board with 32GB ram and more than enough NVME & SSD (2TB and 6TB accordingly) along with a couple of 3TB HDD for backup and older games.
I thought I'd future proofed for a generation this time for my home desktop. Ah well. I'm not touching the limits yet anyway so would sit out this gen anyway. Glad to see AMD keeping it up, nice to see some genuine competition between the big players.
Despite the crazy price rises and shortages, it really does seem actual performance progress has been made in the consumer space for the first time in years last generation.
AMD have always supported their sockets for many years. Ryzen came out in 2017, so 5yrs is pretty decent... the previous FX AM3+ socket was about 6yrs & AM3 for about 3yrs before that... with AM3 CPU's compatible with AM3+ I believe.
There are some rumours that AMD hasn't completely abandoned the AM4 platform and that there may be additional CPUs for it with Zen4 tech. inside.