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UK Parliament bins its TikTok account over China surveillance fears

(2022/08/04)


The UK's Parliament has ended its presence on TikTok after MPs pointed out the made-in-China social media service probably sends data about its users back to Beijing.

A UK Parliament TikTok account started posting last week, and was promoted as follows:

We’re live on TikTok!

Follow [1]@UKParliament for news and behind-the-scenes content from the Elizabeth Tower.

For starters, where’s the best spot to get your best selfie with the famous Tower? [2]https://t.co/z8F5MMIrJp [3]pic.twitter.com/x7dOZxMz3y — UK Parliament (@UKParliament) [4]July 27, 2022

That is so edgy – sneaking content about boring old Parliament onto social media by offering advice about selfies!

The existence of the account saw half a dozen MPs [5]write to the presiding officers of the Houses of Lords and Commons — Lord McFall of Alcluith and Sir Lindsay Hoyle, respectively — to ask for the account to be discontinued.

"While efforts made to engage young people in the history and functioning of parliament should always be welcomed, we cannot and should not legitimise the use of an app which has been described by tech experts as 'essentially Chinese government spyware'," wrote MPs Nusrat Ghani, Tim Loughton, Sir Iain Duncan Smith, Tom Tugendhat, plus Lord Alton of Liverpool and Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws.

[6]Meta: We need 5x more GPUs to combat TikTok, stat

[7]FBI and MI5 bosses: China cheats and steals at massive scale

[8]California's attempt to protect kids online could end adults' internet anonymity

The signatories pointed out that TikTok itself has [9]talked back its own claims that data describing users outside China are never viewed inside the Middle Kingdom. The letter also points out that Chinese law allows Beijing to compel local companies to produce data – possibly even data on the UK youth who turn to TikTok for a super-hip selfies-and-civics lesson.

Lord McFall and Sir Lindsay appear to have appreciated that argument. Ghani yesterday posted the following letter to her Twitter account:

TikTok Update.

Thank you ⁦ [10]@CommonsSpeaker ⁩ & ⁦ [11]@LordSpeaker ⁩ for standing up for our values and protecting our data.

Common sense prevails.

⁦ [12]@ipacglobal ⁩ ⁦ [13]@MPIainDS ⁩ ⁦ [14]@timloughton ⁩ ⁦ [15]@CommonsBEIS ⁩ ⁦ [16]@TomTugendhat ⁩ ⁦ [17]@lukedepulford ⁩ [18]pic.twitter.com/8ecjX0yaKk — Nus Ghani MP (@Nus_Ghani) [19]August 3, 2022

We hasten to add, with respect to the other House, that Lord sense also prevails.

The two speakers – each of whom is nominally responsible for many of the functions of the chamber they lead – displayed their deep knowledge of parliamentary accountability by blaming unnamed officials for the account's existence.

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The account's cancelation comes just weeks after TikTok USA [21]made Oracle Cloud its default storage destination and TikTok's [22]head of security resigned because his mission had been accomplished.

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Those two events came before the service admitted that certain staff in China can see some data under limited circumstances. The company has been on the back foot ever since.

And so, ironically, has Meta: Mark Zuckerberg's social media conglomerate recently told investors that TikTok is one of several factors [24]impacting its revenue and growth prospects . Meta even paused changes to its Instagram service, after users complained the alterations would make the 'Gram more like TikTok. ®

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[1] https://twitter.com/UKParliament?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[2] https://t.co/z8F5MMIrJp

[3] https://t.co/x7dOZxMz3y

[4] https://twitter.com/UKParliament/status/1552279786873135104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[5] https://twitter.com/EditorBTB/status/1552929950151442432

[6] https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/30/meta_we_need_5x_more/

[7] https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/07/fbi_and_mi5_china_warning/

[8] https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/28/california_kid_privacy_bill_anonymous/

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/02/tiktok_china_us_data/

[10] https://twitter.com/CommonsSpeaker?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[11] https://twitter.com/LordSpeaker?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[12] https://twitter.com/ipacglobal?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[13] https://twitter.com/MPIainDS?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[14] https://twitter.com/timloughton?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[15] https://twitter.com/CommonsBEIS?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[16] https://twitter.com/TomTugendhat?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[17] https://twitter.com/lukedepulford?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[18] https://t.co/8ecjX0yaKk

[19] https://twitter.com/Nus_Ghani/status/1554785194439229441?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[20] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_security/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2YuuY3H1didhn56Vudx3XsgAAANE&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0

[21] https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/20/tiktok_usa_oracle/

[22] https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/18/tiktok_cso_steps_down/

[23] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_security/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44YuuY3H1didhn56Vudx3XsgAAANE&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[24] https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/28/meta_pours_cash_into_servers/

[25] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



"Chinese law allows Beijing to compel local companies to produce data"

Pascal Monett

Funny how nobody ever mentions that US law allows Washington to compel local companies to produce data.

Remember National Security Letters ?

Oh, right. Washington are the Good Guys, so it's all right.

Re: "Chinese law allows Beijing to compel local companies to produce data"

steviebuk

The difference is you could call Biden a fuck whit if you wanted a not get arrested.

Call the fucking idiot Xi a fucking idiot or Winnie the Pooh and expect a knock on the door and a trip to prison. That is essentially the difference. Xi was picked because he was a "safe bet" & opening the world to China. Was all a lie and now he's just as bad as Mao.

Creative Alternatives Urgently Desired!!

Anonymous Coward

Quote: "UK Parliament bins its TikTok account over China surveillance fears"

In a reasonable world, we might see the following headlines in El Reg:

(1) "UK Parliament bins its GCHQ links over UK surveillance fears"

(2) "UK Parliament bins its Five Eyes connections over foreign entity surveillance fears"

(3) "UK Parliament bins its WiFi over fears that MPs might watch porn"

(4) "UK Parliament bins its email service over fears that MPs might hear from citizens"

(5) "UK Parliament bins its plans to ban Palantir from the UK - because we really like Peter Thiel"

...and so on. More creative alternatives are welcome!!

Keep the account!

Screwed

I hope they had the wit to retain @UKParliament - simply to stop anyone else using it.

Having never used TikTok, I really don't know whether you can retain dormant accounts. Comment is based on supposition that you can. Have no intention of going off to find out.

Find it difficult to understand why anyone thought it a good idea. I mean, Hansard is a stodgy thing to read. But they never thought to make thinks accessible to UK Youth by adding an "In Parliament Today" section to the Beano, or Judy... So why, just because it is "social media", go to TikTok?

social media service probably sends data about its users back to Beijing

Howard Sway

Well yes. What were they worried about? Location Data : Westminster. User type : Idiot narcissist. Message content : Exactly the same crap they've been spouting to freely available newspapers that day. What the hell is Beijing going to learn from some inane TikTok videos that it doesn't already know about MPs from just reading their Twitter and Facebook pages?

As for other types of data filched from smartphone mad parliamentarians, who's controlling what other apps MPs have installed on their phones and what permissions they "require" and where the data slurping company behind them is based? My guess is nobody.

Re: social media service probably sends data about its users back to Beijing

Morten Bjoernsvik

You give your name and phone number and location data and taste of videos and friends to a chinese company. This is a nice starting point for further data probing.

Nothing more than Google, Apple, M$ or Meta is doing, but sending it to Beijing.

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