This credit card-sized PC board can use an Intel Core i7
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- News link: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2022/07/26/aaeon_x86_sbc_intel_amd/
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The single-board PC is from Aaeon, the industrial-computer-focused subsidiary of Asus, and it's being made alongside another board of the same size that uses an AMD Ryzen Embedded V2000 processor. [1]According to CNX Software , Aaeon expects the boards will enter mass production by the end of September.
These two little units are going under the brand name "de next," and they really are close to the size of a credit card, with each board measuring 84 millimeters long and 55 millimeters wide.
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Taiwan-based Aaeon even went as far to say that the [3]Intel-based board is the smallest one yet with a Core processor. The company didn't provide any superlatives for the [4]AMD-based board , though we wouldn't be surprised if it's one of the smallest options out there with such CPUs.
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When people read single-board computer, they may think of the Raspberry Pi, which brought the form factor to the masses. The world is overflowing with Arm-compatible single-board computers, and others with other architectures, such as RISC-V and MIPS. There are also [7]x86 SBCs though we're talking about Aaeon's hardware here today due to its choice of silicon.
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What the 'de next' single-board PC with an 11th-gen Intel Core chip looks like ...
These Aaeon boards are made for industrial purposes, such as transportation, robotics, and other environments where data needs to be processed close to the source. We wouldn't fault you, however, if you justified a personal purchase so you could plop one of these little things on your desk. We just don't know how much it would cost you yet.
With the industrial focus, the Intel- and AMD-based boards support a wider range of temperatures than regular computers, from 32 to 140°F (0 to 60°C). What helps these boards endure such temperatures is the fact that they use embedded versions of CPUs from Intel and AMD.
The Intel-based de next-TGU8 supports three options from Intel's 11 th generation of Core embedded CPU: the dual-core i3-1115G4E, the quad-core i5-1145G7E, and the quad-core i7-1185G7E. The i3 has a base frequency of 2.2GHz and a turbo frequency of 3.9GHz while the i7 can run at a sustained speed of 1.8GHz and at 4.4GHz in bursts. Each processor has a thermal dynamic power (TDP) that ranges from 15-18 watts, and they all support hyperthreading.
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The AMD-based de next-V2K8 supports two options from AMD's Ryzen Embedded V2000 processors: the six-core V2516, and the eight-core V2718. The V2516 has a base frequency of 2.1GHz and turbo frequency of 3.95GHz while the V2718 runs nominally at 1.7GHz and in bursts at 4.15GHz. Both CPUs have a TDP range of 10-25 watts, and they both support hyperthreading.
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... And this is what the AMD-based board looks like
The Intel- and AMD-boards each support up to 16GB of LPDDR4x memory, though the former has a memory bandwidth of 3,733 MegaTransfers per second (MT/s) while the latter does 3200 MT/s.
They also both come with integrated graphics and support up to two simultaneous displays: one at a 1080p resolution with an HDMI port, and the other at 4K with an Embedded DisplayPort.
Now, we must state that the boards are not as thin as a credit card. But that's for a good reason. They come with an array of I/O options: the aforementioned HDMI 1.4b and Embedded DisplayPorts, plus two Ethernet ports, two USB 3.2 Gen 2 ports, and a DC power jack.
And the system will become even thicker if you apply the board's specially designed heatsink and fan assembly, which seems to double the board's depth, judging by an image provided to CNX.
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Regardless, these boards are still remarkably small for having the ability to offer computing power that is likely on par with some laptops. We know there's good debate as to [12]whether Moore's law is coming to an end, but it still shows how far we've come from the mainframe era decades ago. ®
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[1] https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/23/business-card-sized-sbc-ships-with-intel-core-tiger-lake-or-amd-ryzen-v2000-processor/
[2] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2Yt@7QLpe8a9722bdY99CPAAAAJM&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0
[3] https://www.aaeon.com/en/p/embedded-single-board-computers-denext-tgu8
[4] https://www.aaeon.com/en/p/embedded-single-board-computers-denext-v2k8
[5] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44Yt@7QLpe8a9722bdY99CPAAAAJM&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0
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[7] https://www.electromaker.io/blog/article/best-x86-sbc
[8] https://regmedia.co.uk/2022/07/25/intel_aaeon_sbc_png.jpg
[9] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44Yt@7QLpe8a9722bdY99CPAAAAJM&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0
[10] https://regmedia.co.uk/2022/07/25/amd_aaeon_sbc.jpg
[11] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=3&c=33Yt@7QLpe8a9722bdY99CPAAAAJM&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0
[12] https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/05/moores_law_what_next/
[13] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/
Hmmm.
Can't say I'm particularly impressed. That's quite a lot of power consumption for such a small board, and the I/O looks distinctly underwhelming for something aimed at industrial processing. Also, I'm not convinced hyperthreading is a good idea in anything that's time critical.
Re: Hmmm.
My thought too. If it's intended for robotics and the like, where is the GPIO connection? Surely they can't imagine that the obvious way to design this in is with a second party IO adaptor via (e.g.) USB?
Re: Hmmm.
Specs say there's an 8 bit GPIO header.
Full list of inny outty shake it all abouty stuff:
USB – 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 x2 Type-A ports, 4x USB 2.0 interfaces via header
Serial – 2x RS232/422/485 via header
Expansion
M2 M-Key 2280 socket (PCIe x2, PCIe x4 Gen3 (by FPC))
8-bit GPIO header
optional SMBus/I2C
Storage – SATA III port, M.2 socket for NVMe SSD (See Expansion section)
Display
HDMI 1.4b up to 4Kp30
eDP up to 3840×2160 resolution
Up to 2 independent displays
Networking
2.5GbE RJ45 port via Intel i225LM controller
Gigabit Ethernet RJ45 port via Intel i219LM (Tiger Lake) or Realtek RTL8111H (AMD Ryzen) controller
Re: Hmmm.
Ah! This wasn't at all clear from the article.
P.S. I was up early this morning ::
Re: Hmmm.
The market is for those already using embedded x86 devices. Power consumption and size make it a non-starter for anything that isn't dependent upon the x86 stack.
As a raspberry pi alternative…
I’m interested. But I’m guessing that we are not in the same price universe.
Re: As a raspberry pi alternative…
The power consumption alone would render it kinda pointless for Pi-type use cases. There have been a couple of RISC-V boards (VisionFive, Beagle HiFive) at competitive prices (~$100) though they get discontinued as quickly as they're released. It'll be a few years before they mature as real alternatives to the Pi.
Cooling? Heatsink?
I am not sure they will remain as small as those photos if using any sort of typical PC processor and want to last more than a second or two.
Have another coffee! According to the article, the TDP for the available i7 is 15W, for the top AMD chip 25W. So, not the hottest CPUs around.
Industrial PCs commonly use their case as a large heatsink (to avoid dust ingress). These boards aren't being pitched at consumers, but at engineers who will integrate them (and their cooling requirements) into a larger system.
Also, from the article:
>And the system will become even thicker if you apply the board's specially designed heatsink and fan assembly, which seems to double the board's depth
Credit card sized but requiring a heatsink and fan about the same size as the module.
Fahrenheit?
FFS!
Re: Fahrenheit?
Fahrenheit For Sure?
Re: Fahrenheit?
Fahrenheit For Sure? Shame!
FTFY
Re: Fahrenheit?
Not only that... but when did theregister.co.uk become .com?
But yeah, surely converting Fahrenheit to Celsius for the benefit of most human beings is the sort of rule-based job that a simple macro (or a sub-editor) can be used for?
We lost a Mars probe because of this.
Conversion
It was written and edited in the US and scheduled for the UK morning. We just wanted to go home, TBH, so didn't do the conversion. I've added it now seeing as I'm up late working.
C.
Re: Conversion
We just wanted to go home,...
Here is the problem.
See, this newfangled time is called the "Era of Online" . You are not supposed to go "home". The Online world is active and running 24/365. You are supposed to follow suit and accommodate and love the new continuous labour, where ever you are and when ever we please.
Please, for your readership, don't take a break (see icon) .
Re: Conversion
We can come to a compromise; we'll El Reg's Vultures go to the pub as long as they don't stop working. The articles will probably be hilarious :-)
Re: Conversion
> It was written and edited in the US and scheduled for the UK morning
Oh! So it wasn't out of consideration for your Liberian readership?
(one of two countries in the world that, officially, use Fahrenheit, though in practice the Liberians stick to °C like everyone else. Yes I've been there)
Re: Fahrenheit?
I can't be arsed to go to the computer and open a recent US tech sheet, but my recollection is that they use °C. Must have been the PR department that thought it would be helpful to do the conversion?
Hiltons
For those of us who don't understand Fahrenheit, thats -2 to +4 Hn.
Is this one of those machines...
...that we'll be taking pictures of in 10 years time blue screening with Windows 7 on in a train station?