"zero COVID" as a continuing strategy is a failure, as could be predicted. I am therefore amazed at the number of news articles that neglect to mention the abysmal percentage of vaccinated people in China. Or perhaps even the breakthrough rates for those vaccinated with the Chinese vaccines? Thus the continuing persistence of an extremely contagious disease.

"zero COVID" works about as well as the Great Firewall of China - things will leak through.

Early isolation could extinguish an outbreak, but only when lucky and vigilant. Extended isolation then buys you time to get vaccines going. Then vaccination buys you the ability to protect those who can't be vaccinated, by surrounding them with non-spreaders.

If you don't understand public health measures, please go hug a monkeypox patient.

"Then vaccination buys you the ability to protect those who can't be vaccinated, by surrounding them with non-spreaders."

Actually no it doesn't. It neither stops the spread or stops you from catching it. And that's our one. The Chinese one is even less effective.

I'm all for Working from Home, but I don't think this Homing from Work (HFW) is going to catch on!? And will "just one week" spread into "oh, just one more week".

If you've ever worked at a startup then you'd understand the mindset that goes with this kind of sacrifice. Its difficult to explain to a regular employee because work is usually just an hours/labor/money transaction but there are circumstances where this just doesn't apply. Chinese companies are currently fighting a sort of war, a war that's not their making or choosing but one that was forced on them primarily by the actions of the US government. They have two options -- fold or win. They have only one path forward, and that's to win and they will take it.

Its also an excellent example of why I thought all this 'anti-China' stuff was counter productive. Back in the good old days -- a mere five years ago or so -- the Chinese were intent on being Global Citizens, essentially copying the US lifestyle. They wanted to work as little as possible for as much as possible, to enjoy themselves and generally live the good life. The sort of competitor I prefer to have. Then came the attacks and they've got a reason to close ranks that we provided for them. It isn't exactly "Rosie the Riveter" but its that same war footing production mentality. We're not going to be able to match that so, not too put to fine a point on it, we're screwed.

(BTW -- I notice one of the PM wannabes is pushing xenophobia -- apparently UK universities are full of spies and stuff. Funny, I thought they were much sought after overseas students who's families were prepared to pay well over the odds to get them an education.)

> If you've ever worked at a startup then you'd understand the mindset that goes with this kind of sacrifice.

Squeeze workers as much as possible to get the product at a level that will satisfy investors and produce another round of funding, then fire the burnt staff and ensure they get their stock options void and then hire another cohort of naive workers for the next round of funding.

> They wanted to work as little as possible for as much as possible, to enjoy themselves and generally live the good life.

Chinese security law requires every Chinese citizen to spy on the state behalf, if they are asked to do so.

Some do they out of their own volition, because it is "patriotic" and others out of fear - they don't want their family to be sent to labour camps or to simply disappear.

I've slept at work, lived on pizza, and "Saved the Company", I even got promoted for my trouble.

That's not what this is. This is forced labor pure and simple. This is rolling the clock back to time of the shirtwaist fire. No surprise then Foxcon put out a "business as usual" notice. You and the Chinese government can try to sell that line of nationalism all you want. It's nothing but window dressing for a long simmering problem, where both Chinese companies and the government want the Chinese people to turn the other way while an increasing part of the population is forced to toil in intolerable conditions and without safety or autonomy.

Foxcon made an empire using labor practices that have been clearly shown to be international human rights violations. It was doing it for quite a while before Xi came along as the new prime mover in China. He has only stopped those practices as a method to bring down and control businessmen that threatened his control of the party and the nation, and copied those practices and worse in the forced labor camps that became the hallmark of his administration. Camps providing slave labor to the companies of his supporters, I must point out.

Fold or win is a false choice, the game for the laborers in these factories is lose/lose. The only choice is to delude yourself about the reason they are making you do what they say, and preventing you from doing what you want and need for yourself and your family.

For our part, the average westerner was happy to turn a blind eye to all of this, as were many Chinese business people. But your second point fails as well, as the attack on Chinese workers rights predated Xi's nationalism, and followed his symbolic scapegoating of the Chinese robber barons who took advantage of the previous decades. Your appeal amounts to "shut up and ignore the exploitation of forced labor and military expansionism while it undercuts the global economy or we'll blame it on you for complaining"

Lastly, the reason this is happening is that Xi realizes how hard Russia is getting bit by western sanctions, and is terrified the same will happen to his regime. Not because it will likely remove him from power, old age and cancer are still more likely there, but because they will end nationalist and expansionist dream he as been selling, and force him to defend his regime, instead of attacking other. He will be trapped in a receding and declining nation for the remainder of his days, with no place to flee to, watching his personal empire crumble dust as his nation struggles in isolation or war. A war with no winners. A war of his making, a war he chose over other alternatives.

The one thing I agree with is the student visa problems, and only so far as it being stupid to train bright young people from around the world and then throw them out of the country because of a vague and pervasive sense they are somehow all spies, instead of just paying attention to them, and then treating the ones who actually are spies or terrorists like we have people who later turn out to be totally innocent. That shit's scary.

Vaccination makes you less likely to catch it, and thus less likely to spread it. But it doesn't eliminate that risk entirely, and the more recent variants are very good at dodging immunity (whether via vaccination or previous infection) so that "doesn't eliminate the risk entirely" has become "doesn't eliminate the risk of catching it all that much".

True China's vaccine is not as good as the western mRNA vaccines, which even with two doses plus booster are allowing a lot of breakthrough cases with BA.5. I know one person who was infected early on (April 2020) and didn't get vaccinated because he figured he was now immune. He recently just got covid for the FOURTH time - he'd also got Delta, regular Omicron, and now Omicron BA.5! The Delta infection nearly landed him in the hospital.

But zero covid would not be practical with BA.5 even with mRNA vaccines. China is going to be battling this for years while the rest of the world moves on. What their goal needs to be is have few enough serious cases that it doesn't affect the normal operation of hospitals, but that would require Xi's government changing course which I gather would lead to "loss of face" and is thus not a viable alternative. They're screwed.

buying Chinese junk, perhaps THIS will show that you're supporting modern day slavery? The only real difference here is slave owners used to provide food and housing for their slaves, in China they give you enough cash to provide your own. Otherwise there's no difference. You'll do as you're told 24x7 or it's off to be reeducated. Most anywhere else in the world you can tell your enployer to get stuffed and go find a new job.

Let it cost more, buy only from nations that don't employ slavery.

The problem is that we are in quite the mess of our own making.

We wanted robust employment rights, high taxes, but don't really want to pay for the cost of that. So big corporations found a way - just make things in countries where these things don't matter, ship them back to the UK and sell at extra profit, while still cheaper than domestic products.

Then you have domestic factories unable to compete, closing down and folk being out of jobs not being able to afford stuff, and so increasing pressure to import even more cheap stuff from overseas.

We simply can't have the cake and eat it.