60 million in the Matrix as users seek decentralized messaging
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It's impressive stuff, although definitive figures are tricky to ascertain thanks to the decentralized nature of the platform.
Element boss and Matrix co-founder, Matthew Hodgson reckons the 60 million figure might actually be an underestimate and told The Register via email: "We have limited stats on the overall Matrix ecosystem as servers and clients do not report usage stats by default to Matrix.org - particularly government deployments.
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"As such the 60M addressable user figure is an underestimate, and it does not include government deployments, which we estimate to be currently around 500K active users."
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That figure is therefore the total number of addressable users visible to the matrix.org homeserver, but doesn't include servers or users not viewable on the public network or those that don't report usage stats.
If only things were more centralized and definitive telemetry slurped … of course, that is precisely why the decentralized world of Matrix appeals. Users can even [4]fire up a client via Mozilla's venerable Thunderbird email, calendar and chat app.
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Some users have looked askance at the messaging solutions on offer from the tech giants. The German healthcare system, for example, has [6]mandated Matrix as the standard for messaging, voice and video. Bridging to rival messaging platforms, such as Slack or Team, also eases the potential pain of migration.
[7]Early Skype developer Jaan Tallinn splashes cash in latest funding for Matrix-based instant messenger Element
[8]Can you imagine Slack letting people DM strangers in another org? Think of the abuse. Oh wait, it did do that
[9]Email out, Slack and Teams in for business communications
[10]Cisco's Webex app phoned home audio telemetry even when muted
Other factors include the EU's [11]Digital Markets Act , demonstrating the importance of a wider choice and greater operability between messaging apps and, of course, privacy and sovereignty worries. Hodgson told us the customer milestone was "a clear sign that users don’t want to be subjected to advertising-funded messaging apps that data-mine their information.
"A decentralized open standard is the most sensible and viable way forward for communications, in the same way that http underpins the web. It empowers users and providers with interoperability, security and data ownership. All parties have their own control and choice."
According to Element, 25 million users were added to the service in the last year. Matrix reckons that these are users fleeing from the clutches of Big Tech. We asked Microsoft how Teams was going and will update should the company respond. Earlier this year, Microsoft said the monthly active user figure [12]was north of 270 million .
Still, 60 million users is a ringing endorsement for the Matrix platform and decentralized messaging in general. The impending arrival of decentralized E2EE conferencing for hundreds of concurrent users and peer to peer networking (to turn devices into servers) mean the organization's goal of 100 million users might not be overly optimistic. ®
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I didn't find Zoom that much fun either but Teams via the Web interface was bearable for a basic meeting.
As an aside wasn't Skype originally decentralised to some extent.....
I tried running my own Matrix server
It works but it's slow and I really can't see what it offers that XMPP doesn't. People will no doubt point to bridges but my understanding is that they still require accounts on the "foreign" services so a non-starter for me. I expect other members of the commentariat to re-educate me and I welcome it.
Re: I tried running my own Matrix server
> I really can't see what it offers that XMPP doesn't.
A marketing budget.
> People will no doubt point to bridges
Known as transports, it was one of the early selling points of XMPP back in 2000. It's dead easy to write one to bridge not just to other chat services but to almost anything else imaginable.
> but my understanding is that they still require accounts on the "foreign" services so a non-starter for me.
Yes there's no magic there. For truly federated services such as email and telephone you can make the integration more seamless, without requiring an account on each service, by using the clever approach implemented (in XMPP) by Cheogram.
Did I miss it?
I couldn't find the most obvious [1]linky.
In the past I've been interested in [2]Tox for the same reasons, but their use of Etherium for a directory would have been an issue.
[1] https://element.io/
[2] https://tox.chat/about.html
"fed up with Teams"?
Yes. Extremely. I have to work with a client that uses the whole MS shebang, and I find myself constantly irritated by how Teams is not as intuitive/seamless/good as Zoom in most respects yet it somehow manages to be a massive and unwieldy bloated application at the same time.