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SpaceX staff condemn Musk's behavior in open letter

(2022/06/16)


A group of employees at SpaceX wrote an open letter to COO and president Gwynne Shotwell denouncing owner Elon Musk's public behavior and calling for the rocket company to "swiftly and explicitly separate itself" from his personal brand.

The letter, which was acquired through anonymous SpaceX sources, calls Musk's recent behavior in the public sphere a source of distraction and embarrassment. Musk's tweets, the writers [1]argue , are de facto company statements because "Elon is seen as the face of SpaceX."

Musk's freewheeling tweets have landed him in hot water on multiple occasions – one incident even leaving him [2]unable to tweet about Tesla without a lawyer's review and approval.

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The billionaire's personal life, specifically "events in recent weeks," are cited in the letter as well. While it's unclear which of the many possible examples is being cited, it recently came out that [4]SpaceX paid $250,000 to a flight attendant who accused Musk of sexually harassing her and exposing himself in 2016. His purchase of Twitter has also been [5]combative , and a glance at Musk's twitter feed quickly brings up questionably offensive memes and conspiracy-laden statements.

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While it's unknown how many of SpaceX's 12,000 employees have signed the letter, The Verge's sources also shared screenshots of a supportive Microsoft Teams discussion between 100-plus employees. The Teams channel where the letter was posted reportedly has more than 2,600 members.

The letter writers say their efforts are aimed at making SpaceX a better place to work. "For all our technical achievements, SpaceX fails to apply [its] principles to the promotion of diversity, equity, and inclusion with equal priority across the company."

[8]Musk can't tweet about Tesla without lawyer approval – and he's still fighting to end that

[9]If you want to launch Starship from Texas, here's some homework, FAA tells SpaceX

[10]Musk repeats threat to end $46.5bn Twitter deal – with lawyers, not just tweets

[11]Elon Musk orders Tesla execs back to the office

Recent events, the letter adds, are not isolated incidents. "They are emblematic of a wider culture that underserves many of the people who enable SpaceX's extraordinary accomplishments."

To that end, the letter is calling on SpaceX to live up to its "no asshole" and "zero tolerance" policies, both of which the writers say are applied unequally across the company – especially with regard to Elon Musk. The employees have three demands, which they they would like to discuss in person with the executive team within a month:

Address and condemn Musk's Twitter behavior, then take the aforementioned steps to separate SpaceX from Musk's brand

Hold leadership equally accountable, by which the writers mean they want leadership to critically assess whether leadership is preventing employees from fully performing their jobs, "treated with the same rigor and urgency as establishing flight rationale after a hardware anomaly"

Clearly define and respond to all unacceptable behavior, and establish safe avenues for reporting violations from all levels of employees

The letter didn't say what its authors planned to do if their demands weren't satisfied, though Musk has shown no qualms with [12]unexpectedly slashing workforces or getting rid of employees that don't meet [13]his demands . ®

PS: Musk is [14]being sued in New York for $258 billion over claims he and his tech businesses “engaged in a crypto pyramid scheme by way of dogecoin cryptocurrency.”

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[1] https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/16/23170228/spacex-elon-musk-internal-open-letter-behavior

[2] https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/15/musk_tweet_court/

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[4] https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-denies-he-sexually-harassed-flight-attendant-private-jet-2022-05-20/

[5] https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/06/twitter_musk_bots/

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[8] https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/15/musk_tweet_court/

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/14/spacex_faa_launch/

[10] https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/06/twitter_musk_bots/

[11] https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/01/elon_musk_tesla/

[12] https://www.theregister.com/2014/08/08/spacex_layoffs_lawsuit/

[13] https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/01/elon_musk_tesla/

[14] https://nypost.com/2022/06/16/elon-musk-sued-for-258-billion-over-dogecoin-pyramid-scheme/

[15] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



This is what late stage Elon looks like

Anonymous Coward

It seems moving to Texas was the beginning of the final slide into Howard Hughes territory. Weirdly, watching him melt down just reminds me of Brittney spears crying in a car surrounded by a mob of photographers. But Elon is Elon, so he will keep getting hit with the techbro bat, even though treating a female popstar the same way is no linger fashionable.

Will we sit back and laugh as he spirals out of control? The world happily ate Amy Winehouse alive, mocking her at the end while her managers milked the spectacle to the bitter end. If Elon starts stumbling around and falling off stages, will we just troll him too?

If any of you are wondering where this is coming from, I work at place with a mandatory reporter policy in place. If Musk was a teenager, a counselor would be talking to his family right now. We have seen how this goes, over and over, and without some support from the outside the outcomes trend dark.

Maybe it's walking around the house in Kleenex boxes, maybe self-harm, maybe he parks a rocket in the middle of a school.

He's not nearly that far gone at this point, but is that a reason to wait?

and what does it say about us if we see whats happening and decide stand back and watch?

Re: This is what late stage Elon looks like

kloczek the iOS6 user

Nice FUD

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty,_and_doubt

Re: This is what late stage Elon looks like

botfap

GPT-3 or paid human?

Re: This is what late stage Elon looks like

MrDamage

1) Comparing Elon to Brittney? So the person who wanted to be left alone, and was hounded by paparazzi, is the same as the person who constantly invites negative attention by opening his trap and letting loose with brainfarts? Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.

2) Yes, we will sit back and laugh. He has shown himself to be the toxic person who does not deserve respect, or sympathy.The more money he males, the more he thinks he is untouchable. He has the choice to NOT act like a spoiled teenager suffering from affluenza, but he decides not to. He is an adult, responsible for his own thoughts, actions and words, so the counsellor should be talking to him, not his parents.

3) What does it say about us? Nothing. We've been pointing out for ages how unstable he is getting. What does it say about the politicians who decided to accept his continued bribes and let him keep going until he does park a rocket on a school? Plenty.

Re: This is what late stage Elon looks like

General Purpose

>Maybe it's walking around the house in Kleenex boxes

Kleenex boxes or Kleenex boxers?

Asking for a friend.

Re: This is what late stage Elon looks like

Anonymous Coward

Meet the new Boss... worse than the old boss.

Emperor Elon seems to have run out of new clothes. I wonder if he has been infected with the Texas Blues (pun intended) by his new BMF, Governor Abbott.

Woke Inc

Anonymous Coward

Stating "diversity, equity, and inclusion" is simply a dog whistle for those who cannot think for themselves.

If I was Musk I would offer anyone who tries to enforce this dogma / mantra the SpaceX EXIT door (on Earth or in Space: their choice payload permitting) where they will no doubt be much more happy in their own echo chamber.

Re: Woke Inc

HammerOn1024

I believe you've got it!

Re: Woke Inc

Anonymous Coward

ROFLAMO!

Those who cannot think for themselves?

As opposed to your camp lead by the proudly willfully ignorant aGolf Twitler?

Science denial is the opposite of progressivism and is enshrined by conservatives.

It's conservatives that literally worship fascists and want to bring it to the US via Christian nationalism, and got dangerously close on 1/6...

Conservatives want the inclusion of child marriage, the diversity to wag their cocks out whoever they want, and the equity to oppress and exploit anyone not of their faith/religion/skin color...

Take a bow clown.

Re: Woke Inc

Anonymous Coward

I think you need to start taking your medication again !

Re: Woke Inc

Lord Elpuss

”ROFLAMO!“

Laughing ass my off? Or is this a derivative of something more flame-y?

Either way your comment, somewhat ironically considering your last sentence), is particularly clownlike.

Re: Woke Inc

MrDamage

That's a lot of words to say "I'm a racist arsewipe who would marry my sister in a heartbeat".

Re: Woke Inc

Anonymous Coward

Multiple Choice: Pick 1 or 2

1) Please enlighten everyone on how you sanely reached your conclusion step by step.

2) It is simply a case of: "Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty." .... Joseph Goebbels

Re: Woke Inc

John Sager

I would expect SpaceX would want to hire staff on merit, disregarding colour of skin and/or sexual orientation, or indeed, sex.

Certainly if I were running a space operation like that, technical competence with the ability to work in teams and with all sorts of other skilled people would be far and away the number one priority.

Re: Woke Inc

Lord Elpuss

I believe they do - and the pan shots of the team during a rocket launch tend to back this up. It’s a D&I smorgasbord.

One suspects the issue is more along the lines of zero tolerance for less than stellar work; which if you happen to be of a D&I bent, IMMEDIATELY brings out the Victim mentality nutjobs claiming that xxx was fired because of his/her/it’s skin color/gender/orientation, as opposed to the rather more logical explanation that they were just plain crap.

Dear Employees,

HammerOn1024

The door's over there. Don't let it hit you in the ass on the way out.

Re: Dear Employees,

MrDamage

Dear Elon: If you don't like the work culture, sell the company and actually make your own, instead of buying the title of "Founder" like some form of participation trophy.

Re: Dear Employees,

Lord Elpuss

You mean like SpaceX, Tesla, PayPal, Neuralink, Deepmind, Hyperloop, Starlink, Zip2 or Solarcity?

Idiotic comment.

March

elsergiovolador

Marxist March through institutions spilled over to big corporations. The irony.

At very least the woke brigade there is not milking the tax payer (to an extent).

Re: March

MrDamage

His Muskiness's fanbois really are out in force today. Keep on peddling your FUD my friend, Elon might let you play with his little rocket one day.

Woke rocket

elsergiovolador

Can a rocket penetrate the space without getting consent?

Or is the consent assumed (like when big corporations want to help themselves to your health data without your permission), because the void can't say no?

Re: Woke rocket

Anonymous Coward

Don't worry. Elon will soon claim that he... the richest man ever owns all of space above 55miles and that everyone else will have to pay him to use his air/space space.

Yes, I am joking but AFAIK, he has had any trace of empathy removed from his body. He is getting more like his idol, Donald J Trump every day. He only thinks of himself and his own enrichment and to hell with anyone else.

Any best who will be in charge of the next series of the US 'The Apprentice'?

Yep, Elon, you're fired' musk.

I'm split

Boris the Cockroach

over this one

Would I want a driven clown who has the habit of shoving both feet in his mouth from time to time as well as inspiring his staff to go build the daftest thing today (a rocket that can land on a platform in the middle of the ocean... who really needs that? a bond villian?) as a boss

Or would I prefer some boring MBA stamped out by Harvard et al and only speaks in pre approved corperato speak complete with meaningless phrases that serve only to fill out the squares on a bullshit bingo card.

Re: I'm split

bazza

There's all sorts of factors there. Take the "boss who inspires"; they can be the most depressing person to work for, if they also go and create the conditions where all one's hard work is thrown in the dumpster by them screwing something else up, such as over-leveraging the financial side of things, or pushing through features that, actually, can never be made to work.

And the MBA can - if well trained - be fabulous, by literally leaving the creative / engineering side to get on with it, but making sure they're not too wild. There's nothing wrong with a good MBA asking for a good project plan, backed up by realistic assessments of risk. They're the ones who can let engineers a little off the leash, with a clearly defined "you've got this long before the money runs out", and it's a good thing to be forced to focus on outcomes and whether they're achievable.

I think that the natural ebb and flow indicates who is really good, and who is not. Wherever you get really, really good senior engineers hanging round for a long time, bringing in the best of the young hotshots too, there you likely also have good business-person(s) behind them. That occurs only if the whole outfit is really good, business-wise and engineering-wise, both of which are key to long term success.

The problem in the US is that there really is a penchant for "firing the staff", no matter what, so it's difficult for teams to be assembled, coalesce and become effective. In Europe, where it's typically far harder to fire staff, I think that this gives good engineering companies an advantage. They're limited / actively discouraged from firing staff, so that means their teams can become maturely capable even when company economics are slightly down. Everyone good wants to work for them, which helps the company back up.

More than anything

Andy 73

It suggests that the narrative that Musk is a key contributor to SpaceX's progress is a fiction, given that a significant portion of the staff consider him to be an embarrassing liability they want kept at a distance.

It'll also be interesting whether he thinks his "leadership" is so important that he's willing to get rid of any number of highly skilled staff. I suspect they're not quite as fungible as staff at his car plants.

Re: More than anything

JamesTGrant

Well it’s not like it’s brain surgery…

Mr. Rockford, this is the Thomas Crown School of Dance and Contemporary
Etiquette. We aren't going to call again! Now you want these free
lessons or what?
-- "The Rockford Files"