Seriously, you do not want to make that cable your earth
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"Andrew" takes us back to the 1980s, the days of DECNet, DEC Rainbow PCs, and the inevitable VAX or two.
Back then, DECnet was a big noise in networking. Originally conceived in the 1970s to connect PDP-11 minis, it had evolved over the years and was having its time in the sun before alternative networking technologies took over.
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At the time, it was all the rage. "We had a load of VAX boxes and Rainbow PCs all over the office, spread over four floors," Andrew recalled. "So we installed Digital's latest and greatest routers, connected by thickwire Ethernet."
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"For those who are too young to remember, this was a thick, yellow, armored coax that was electrically balanced," he explained. "That means it had a very important minimum bend radius, and you could only connect to it at marked points where the reflections peaked. You used a bee-sting to connect a coax cable."
While it was a little more complicated than the topologies of today, it did the trick. "All was fine for a couple of months. PCs were connecting to VAXes; VAXes were exchanging files and email on what was then the state-of-the-art All-In-One office system."
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It was, as Andrew put it, "great stuff."
Until it wasn't. One floor dropped off the network completely. The floor below was, according to Andrew, "running like a three-legged dog with arthritis." Hardly a shining example of DECnet, and he (and a tame network engineer) were called upon to diagnose the issue.
They went to fourth floor first and fired up their test kit. Sure enough, the cable showed issues and zero connectivity to other floors. "Back to the third floor," he told us, "and the reflectometer said the problem was between floors."
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So to the riser to look at the cable itself... and the panels were already off with a pair of electricians busying themselves with the wiring within.
This was a bit... odd. Andrew and his pal asked what was going on.
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"Oh," came the cheery response, "we were just commenting on this new armored earth cable that you boys have installed."
"Never seen it before, but it sure is useful to be able to earth this new spur we are just about to turn on."
We imagine there was a short pause as Andrew gathered his wits and pondered the least sweary way of delivering his explanation. No, this was NOT an earth. It was, in fact, the network...
"...and if they turned on the power not only would the circuit not be earthed, but hundreds of thousands of pounds of computer equipment would go up in smoke."
"Network?" asked the electrician. "What's that when it's at home?"
Ah, the 1980s. Simpler times. These days all we need to worry about is Bob in Sales insisting he be moved from the Wi-Fi access point for fear of having his brain cooked while still spending much of his day with a smartphone pressed to his ear.
As for Andrew's nearly-earth DECnet: "The cable was ruined and had to be replaced. The next one had tags on it saying 'NETWORK – DO NOT TOUCH'."
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Maybe they'll work on something more current soon...
The idea certainly has some potential, so I don't see why it would meet any resistance
I'm wired about this...
At least when they were given the heads-up about the cable they did a quick volte-face on the idea...
I think it may lack capacity and may induce problems.
Bee-sting ?
Haven't heard of that term. Always known them as Vampire Taps.
Re: Bee-sting ?
Are you sure you're not just making these up? Because both of these sound like the kind of names people would make up.
Re: Bee-sting ?
That’s the thing about names.
Re: Bee-sting ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire_tap
Re: Bee-sting ?
Neither have I – my personal understanding of the colloquial use refers to something else entirely (and it's often used unflatteringly[/misogynistically], though I gather that certain websites have it as a USP – there's [1]a niche for everyone I guess).
[1] https://xkcd.com/305/
Re: Bee-sting ?
I was thinking the same
Rainbow - Nostalgia
The mention of the DEC Rainbow PC takes me back to my time working for one of the oil & gas operators. I moved to one of their UK HQ offices and got my first hands-on experience with “my own” desktop PC (until then, I had got quite familiar with teletype and VT220 access). The Rainbow could boot to CP/M or the new MS-DOS. Mine has a 10MB HDD and two 5.1/4” floppies and booted to MS-DOS. My main application was Lotus Symphony with which I ran a spreadsheet/database to oversee procurement inspection for North Sea operations (back then my £2m budget was quite a lot of money). I could “email” suppliers by direct access to the telex system (quite common, almost mandatory, for regular suppliers back then). Didn’t see the network in the article, though - the network connection was via RS232 serial.
Someone had planned ahead when setting out the offices and there were more ports than usually needed; printers were also connected into the network so you had the ability to print direct to other offices. It was there I got quite familiar with RS232; my job had nothing to do with IT but support was patchy and I found my Psion II, with an RS232 cable, was great for troubleshooting connection issues. For example, printer settings were far from standardised and the easiest way to find out how a printer was set up was to plug in the Psion and run a small script that ran through the various combinations - the one(s) that actually printed out were the ones in use…
The DEC Rainbow wasn’t the fastest PC of the day, but it did what was needed at the time. Fond memories :)
Re: Rainbow - Nostalgia
It was there I got quite familiar with RS232
Well most Brits eat serial for breakfast...
Re: Rainbow - Nostalgia
I thought RSR232 ran over copper, not fibre?
Re: Rainbow - Nostalgia
For example, printer settings were far from standardised and the easiest way to find out how a printer was set up....
At the risk of sound all old-farty, there few greater delights for me than installing Linux on a machine and having it just find and install all of the printers on our network. Dear God, the HOURS spent battling with printer drivers in the Good Old Days.....
Much applause for this one...
Ah, the 1980s. Simpler times. These days all we need to worry about is Bob in Sales insisting he be moved from the Wi-Fi access point for fear of having his brain cooked while still spending much of his day with a smartphone pressed to his ear.
Thank you for that. Just thank you.
Sparkies...
I've met the gambit of them, some so brilliant they make me seem like troglodyte, others well, had a hard time finding their own butt crack, which we all could see...
Re: Sparkies...
I don't think we've had any here who've caused major damage. But we have had a few "special" cases. Like one electrician unplugging some major networking gear (severing the site's network in two) so he could plug in his drill. Or mis-wiring a fire alarm, setting off the entire system and incurring a £1k fine from the fire department for an instant-response false alarm
Ah DEC
This brings back memories of the old rt11 systems I used to operate - I still drink my coffee from a DEC Rainbow mug replete with the Basinstoke support telephone number.
PCSA, Vampire Taps and All-In-1...
Damn you, I'm still drinking to forget them...
Shouted across a room - "Log in to All-In-1, I just sent you a message!"
Thicknet cables with their 15-way D connectors used to confuse users, who would plug them into the joystick port on their sound cards and wonder why they couldn't connect. (Younger readers - this is much like plugging your RJ45 network drop cable into an ISDN card),
Thicknet was positively skinny compared to the inter-floor hydra cable I encountered on one site. BICC ISOLAN hubs serving two floors, delivering RJ45 Cat 3. Yes, you read that right, Category 3. I can't remember how many U's they took up in the cabs, but "many" springs to mind.
For extra giggles, the ISOLAN network cards in the PC's would release their magic smoke if anyone ever attempted to install Windows 95. Log in, and your machine would be impersonating Robert the Robot from Fireball XL5 within moments.
I thought RS232 was a Ford rally car that never went in to production?
A pair of thick sparkies were working on thicknet cable. How appropriate. Next decade, they did some twisted pair work.