in the war that MS is waging to get everyone onto W11.

In the last round, W10 floored W11 and now leads on points.

Seriously, will MS ever take the hint that W11 is an even worse pig than W10. People have learned to live with W10 and seem to be baulking at the prospect of having to replace so much IT kit when times are hard both in Business and at Home. W11 is just not in the plans of the companies that I do IT work for. One has asked me to work out what it would take for them to move their back office to Linux and put Macs on the desks. The MD bought a new laptop with W11 pre-instaled. He hates it with a vengeance and after a week, he got me to put W10 on it. He's already looking at an M1 powered Macbook. I suspect that this company is not alone.

MS seem oblivious to the financial problems that people are experiencing all over the world.

@AC So which is it, are they "baulking at the prospect of having to replace so much IT kit "

or not

"One has asked me to work out what it would take for them to move their back office to Linux and put Macs on the desks"

Good point Falmari.

One can't be "baulking at the prospect of having to replace so much IT kit " while simultaneously looking "to Macs on the desks".

How many PCs can one buy for the cost of a single Mac?

From the point of view of RTI and TCO, we'll be running our W10 PCs until W10 goes EOL and Microsoft can go whistle.

Despite the adverts and hype, W11 does SFA that W10 can't. So why should we upgrade?

Asking costs nothing. He can make up his mind what to buy when he sees the price.

I would assume that has kit dies, moves out of support he would migrate peoples PC's to mac/linux at that point, probably what I would do!

You see this with Windows all the time, when the new version is released then users install it and find problems. So there's always a lot of complaints initially but MS will work to fix the problems and over time (a year or two) the new version will become usable ... W10 has been a good illustration of this, it's now reasonably usable, but initially most users returned to Windows 7 after their "upgrade".

MS will work to fix the problems and over time (a year or two) the new version will become usable...

at which time MS will make it EOL.

MS builds the new versions to sell more PC's when the PC manufacturers say, "We need to increase our system sales" so MS says, "We'll upgrade Windows..."

What do MS care? They're sucking up money into Azure like no tomorrow, and that's not going to stop no matter how bad things get - that's their cash cow now. Long gone are the days of Windows generating any significant revenue - as far as Microsoft are concerned, Windows is just a portal to their cloud services now, be that 10 or 11.

Nothing actually wrong with Windows11, it works but to be honest I can't see what I've gained by installing it, nothing Win10 couldn't do. I didn't pay for it as my company gives us MSDN and I got it off there, if I had to pay MS can stick that as it's just not worth the time, money or effort as you don't appear to actually gain anything with W11 over W10 from what I've seen having used it these last couple of months.

MS seem oblivious to the financial problems that people are experiencing all over the world.

They're not oblivious to it; they just don't care.

And also: MS seem oblivious to the problems that people are experiencing with Windows 11 all over the world.

"The Register contacted Microsoft in order to get the raw data behind Nadella's claims. We will update should the company respond."

Ha ha! Good one!

Oh, so it has exceeded +0.001% adoption ?

Well done Nadella, have yourself a pint.

At this rate, by 2100 you just might equal XP.

More ads in the file explorer. More telemetry in what apps you use and how often you use them. And less browser choice.

According to redmond at least

Don't give them the id... Oh, too late!

Been running Win11 ( only cos I have MSDN through my shop and get it free! ) and to be honest I can't see what the fuss is about. As a techie who does bits of dev work in various languages that require the build tools, plus playing latest games off Steam, I cannot see I've actually gained anything running Windows11 over Windows10, to be honest I'm probably not doing anything that Windows95 couldn't flipping do at a push!

Joking aside, other than MS bottom line, personally I'd say that if you're on Windows10 and thinking about Windows11, I wouldn't bother unless there's something you really want from the MS new vanity project!

I got W11 preinstalled on my new personal laptop, whilst my work laptop remains on W10. Other than the one-time hit of having to relocate the start menu back to where it ought to be, learning to right click on the start menu to access the task manager, and learning to live with the lack of ungrouped/labelled taskbar buttons (I've deliberately avoided investigating any of the 3rd party shell hacks so far, because I've wanted to give native W11 a fair chance to prove itself to me), I've so far found nothing in W11 which makes it stand out as being sufficiently different to W10 that it merited a whole new version number to itself.

Hell, so far I've not seen anything that would even merit it being classed as a service pack back in the good old days when Windows had such things, rather than the dreaded "feature updates" MS now like to ram down our throats. Quite why MS felt the need to brand it as a whole new version, rather than just roll out the changes as part of their ongoing efforts to keep W10 users guessing what their OS will look and behave like after every update, is beyond me.

So for now, I haven't seen anything in 11 that would make me want to upgrade from 10 if I was given the option to do so, however I have seen a few things which make me wish my new laptop had come with 10 instead. More accurately, I wish it could have come with 7 instead, otherwise it sounds as if I actually like 10 whereas I merely prefer 10 over 11, but that's like saying I prefer being hit in the face over being kicked in the nuts...

"rather than a deep-seated dislike of the new Start Menu or the departure of Task Manager ".

It is the reason. Or to put it another way--once Microsoft makes something worse than it was they seem determined to make it even crappier at each update.

" they seem determined to make it even crappier at each update "

Actually, such departures are the output of teams of young folks who believe they're brilliant, want to stamp their mark on the product, but know nothing about ergonomics (even that the word means anything more than office chairs with lumps on).

When we have a population of total amateurs (in the worst sense of the word) doing engineering, this is the inevitable result. Yes, they can code , but they have absolutely no idea about design as an enabler of function.

If my case is typical, I'm not surprised the uptake is slow.

My main personal Win10 machine started pestering me that my upgrade was ready around the end of January. I was busy with other things at the time and kept ignoring it. I realised a couple of weeks ago that it had stopped nagging me. I'm still getting 21H2 updates to Win10, but there's no mention at all about the Win11 upgrade anymore, even though the PC is fully complaint.

Maybe if Win11 had more patience / less ADHD it would be more widely adopted.

So, I have Windows 10 looking like Windows 7 (proper Start Menu button, use of Quick launch toolbar, etc.) and I'm happy with that. I got a new test PC which came with Windows 11. I eventually got it to look like Windows 7 with third party tools at which point it was "why should I upgrade my other PCs?"

So, I haven't bothered - and probably wont until there's a proper compelling reason to do so.

Alan

I'm a consumer who can upgrade, but don't.

I do not accept Panos Panay telling me where I should put my taskbar.