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Microsoft fixes Point of Sale bug that delayed Windows 11 startup for 40 minutes

(2022/04/26)


A fresh Windows 11 patch slipped out overnight as an optional update, but contains an impressively long list of fixes for Microsoft's flagship operating system.

One bug addressed in [1]KB5012643 could leave Point of Sale terminals hanging for up to 40 minutes during startup.

The content of the release, 22000.652, had previously shown up as [2]22000.651 in the Release Preview ring of the Windows Insider program earlier in April.

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Microsoft did not specify the Point of Sale element in that release, simply stating: "We fixed an issue that delays OS startup by approximately 40 minutes."

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Windows is still the OS of choice for many PoS systems, predominantly used in the retail and restaurant industry, although the bright point for some sellers will be that they haven't yet updated to Windows 11 – as we pointed out [6]last week , it is continuing to struggle both in the enterprise and at home, according to figures published by IT asset management platform Lansweeper.

Other fixes in this fresh Windows 11 patch include tweaks around TPM and the plugging of a memory leak that affected Windows systems in use 24/7. Yes, it is 2022 and Windows can still leak memory if you don't turn it off regularly.

[7]Microsoft plans to drop SMB1 binaries from Windows 11

[8]Windows 11 usage stats within touching distance of... XP

[9]Windows 11 growth at a standstill amid stringent hardware requirements

[10]Microsoft backtracks on lack of easy Windows browser choice

Microsoft described the fixes as "improvements" and chose to highlight the fact that temperature would now be displayed on top of the weather icon on the taskbar despite the significance of other fixes.

The patch arrived with news of a new owner of the Windows inbox apps (or the "Essential Experience") as Microsoft would have it. John Jansen, formerly of Edge Browser and PWA fame, has been [11]handed the role once held by Steve Teixeira (now VP of Product at Twitter).

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The response was as measured as one would expect, with pleas to not shift the Windows Inbox apps into the shiny – [13]and a little sluggish – world of PWA. Oh, and could he pull Notepad and Paint [14]back from the precipice on which both seem to be teetering?

That'd be grand. ®

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[1] https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/topic/april-25-2022-kb5012643-os-build-22000-652-preview-43a75ee7-d857-4943-a2b9-f961538bd2b0

[2] https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2022/04/14/releasing-windows-11-build-22000-651-to-the-release-preview-channel/

[3] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_security/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2YmgXLVtBHt8vVEMyi3mrtAAAAQQ&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0

[4] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_security/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44YmgXLVtBHt8vVEMyi3mrtAAAAQQ&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[5] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_security/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=3&c=33YmgXLVtBHt8vVEMyi3mrtAAAAQQ&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[6] https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/19/windows_11_marketshare/

[7] https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/20/smb1_uninstalled_by_default_windows_11/

[8] https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/19/windows_11_marketshare/

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/windows_11_stalls/

[10] https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/microsoft_browser_choice/

[11] https://twitter.com/thejohnjansen/status/1518621506128912384

[12] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_security/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44YmgXLVtBHt8vVEMyi3mrtAAAAQQ&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[13] https://twitter.com/Stop_Bad_Press/status/1518679396705619973

[14] https://twitter.com/el_jasoon/status/1518774934830563328

[15] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



FFS.

NoneSuch

There should be no external cause to stop Windows from booting.

Powershell has issues opening on Win10 without an Internet connection. Gee, I wonder why?

Re: FFS.

Dave Null

What are you talking about?

Re: FFS.

Anonymous Coward

Seeing as it's the Point of Sale edition that was affected, I imagine it was an Out of Cheese Error. The simple workaround is obviously to keep some cheese handy to scan during Windows startup.

Re: FFS.

Little Mouse

Everyone should always have some pocket cheese or meat handy, for emergencies like this.

Re: FFS.

Jellied Eel

I recommend a tin of Spam. Both shelf and pocket stable. Also easy to convert potential to kinetic energy, especially if you've played cricket or baseball. Also if PoS terminals are installed next to microwave ovens, can be used to uninstall Win10.

shurely shome mishtake?

42656e4d203239

>Yes, it is 2022 and Windows can still leak memory if you don't turn it off regularly.

"Yes, its 2022 and Windows still leaks memory" is what you meant to say. Turning it off doesn't stop the leak.... no, wait, it does if you don't turn it back on again.

/mines the one with Pedant stencilled across the back.

Hubert Cumberdale

Lidl's PoS terminals still seem to be running some version of XP fairly successfully (recognise that beep?). Or am I mistaken?

Zippy´s Sausage Factory

XP? My local supermarket (not Lidl) was still running Windows 2000 last time I saw...

Blackjack

I remember when Windows 98 would never shut down, looks like 11 really has trouble getting out of bed.

P.O.S.

Little Mouse

I'm amazed that Windows 11 has already been deployed into live environments like this. The wrinkles haven't been ironed out yet and it's effectively still in Beta.

P.O.S. indeed.

Re: P.O.S.

Paul Herber

P.O.S.

Poxy Old Sh*te

Impressively long or depressingly long?

Mage

This is the maybe 5th major iteration of NT which was first released as NT 3.1 nearly 30 years ago (1993).

It's really a fiddled with version of Windows 10.

Are they rushing stuff out with little design and less testing? It's an appalling list of fixes.

Note:

NT 3.1. NT 3.5 (possibly 1st Server & Workstation artificial versions), NT 3.51 (add faked for Win95 apis not in NT3.5 or Win32s intended to stop people running Office 95 on Win32s on Win.3.1, Win 3.11 & WFWG3.x).

NT 4.0 (Add Explorer shell and stupidly move Graphics driver into Kernel for 10% performance). Took sp6 to fix all. Sp7 would have added USB but cancelled to save Win2K sales). Note that original Win95 had no USB.

Win2K, XP 2003: really NT 5.x. The third version

Vista, Win 7: really NT 6.x, win7 should have been free to Vista users. The 4th version

Win 8, a sort of Phone GUI version of 7. Should never have existed on desktop.

No Windows 9 because idiots during NT 4 & NT 5 era checked for Win9x

Windows 10. Really 5th version because Windows on Desktop was an aberration. Mostly free to Win7 & 8 users. 4th or 5th iteration.

Windows 11. Increment version number for Marketing reasons. See version numbers of Word For Windows!

Re: Impressively long or depressingly long?

dboyes

Makes OpenVMS 9 on Intel seem positively attractive. A properly designed, stable, reliable, cluster-able OS that doesn't mess around. No systemd, proper system abstraction, granular security....

Guess Doug Cutler finally gets the last laugh.

Re: Impressively long or depressingly long?

Anonymous Coward

"Guess Doug Cutler finally gets the last laugh."

Dave Cutler has been (and afaik still is) a Microsoft employee for many years (since 1988?). He's not long passed his 80th birthday.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Cutler

Sadly although VMS on AMD64 is here and now (after a fashion), the company responsible for developing and marketing it seems to have even less of a clue than HPQ.

Unexpected delay in bagging area.

spireite

Unbelievable frankly....

Unbelievable that the bug existed.,,,,

Even more unbelievable that ANYONE thought that W11 was remotely needed for a till!

Steal this tagline. I did.