Not to dis your diskette, but there are some unexpected sector holes
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Our tale comes from a reader Regomised as "Don" who describes himself as "an electrical engineer with credentials dating back to HP 2114 16-bit rackmount computers." Ah yes, the 2114. Not, we suspect, the tediously [2]modern Pavilion model but something [3]a good deal more historic , replete with knobs, switches and flashing lights.
It would be fair to say that Don enjoyed the golden age of computing. He told us he used a Digital PDP-LSI11/03 as his "desktop" until the era of the PC dawned. It also meant he was (and is) blessed with a lot of experience, something that came in handy when he decided to pay a visit to his wife's workplace over a lunch break.
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"My wife," he said, "was a software configuration-control software release manager at a top-5 computer company."
She was normally involved in the mainframe side of the business but, following an acquisition of a startup specializing in ATM machines, had found herself working with the teams dealing with the mechanical cash slingers.
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Always keen for a tour of anywhere with new tech, Don was shown around the facility. "We walked into the 'lab'," he said, "the classic raised-floor A/C space that the main-frames got to enjoy, and passed by the crew working on the latest release of the ATM code.
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"My wife quipped that they'd been at it all morning and couldn't get the code to load onto the floppies."
Ever helpful and always curious, Don offered his assistance and asked to look at one of the suspect 5 1/4 inch floppy disks,"and for sheer luck spied a sector hole..."
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For the uninitiated, hard sectored floppy disks have a hole for each "sector" (for want of a better word) while soft sectored disks have a single index hole. The holes punched into the hard sectored disks are present to let the controller know a new sector had started. Mixing the disk types, therefore, could prove problematic.
"Do you use hard sector media?" Don asked. "No," was the curt response.
"I spun the diskette in its jacket," Don told us, "and – sure enough – one sector hole appeared after another."
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"Well, these are hard sectored media," he announced to the assembled techies.
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Silence descended, possibly while someone worked out just how many hours could have been saved if the label of the box of diskettes had been looked at a little more carefully.
"I guess that's what you call a 'Duh!' moment?" said Don.
"They looked at me like I was welcome to leave immediately... I said my farewell and moved on."
Lunch had never tasted so good.
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I bow before such experience
I never even knew there was such a thing as a hard-sector discs.
And I've been using floppies since the IBM PC with double 360kb 5¼" floppies.
Salute to the master.
You were lucky
I started off with 8”, hard sectored, single sided disks and mag-stripe printer cards.
Graduated to soft-sector. Then 5 ¼ “... and so on.
Closest I've seen...
Was a user bashing the keyboard and screaming at the PC "why aren't you working"?
I went over and swapped the keyboard (without unplugging) with the one on the adjacent desk - cleaners had been in...
Re: Closest I've seen...
I started around ten years ago at a big IT company. It was quite a jovial office, with lots of pranks. For over a year, one of my colleagues complained that his mouse would occasionally move erratically across the screen. His machine was re-imaged and eventually, IMMSMC, replaced, but the issue still happened. One of the japesters had plugged another mouse into his docking station, which was never inspected, and said mouse would occasionally be moved....
Felt sorry for the poor chap... He was so good about it though...
Re: Closest I've seen...
A few years back in a large open plan office there were a number of support teams dotted around the place. One team always had their team meeting on a Friday afternoon. One week I went over and put a small piece of Sellotape across the optical sensors on our their mice.
Que lots of rebooting when they came back as most of them thought their machines had hung.
Took a few minutes for someone to work out it was Sellotape. And for some reason everyone looked in my direction...
Re: Closest I've seen...
Ah, that one's still a goodie.
I did it a few years ago to one of our HoDs. After she dragged me into her office, saying that her email wasn't working, it really needed to be working etc... etc... Turned out that it was a new machine and Outlook hadn't been pinned to the task bar. She didn't know how to open it any other way.
In the circumstance, I feel that mucking with her mouse was entirely justified.
Re: Closest I've seen...
his mouse would occasionally move erratically across the screen
A couple of roles ago we had a sister company that tended to go their own way. Amongst his other IT purchases*, without asking, the MD bought two identical wireless mice for himself and his finance guy.
He then complained of erratic mouse movements which we "must sort out". You can probably see where this is going! Their desks were effectively back-to-back, separated by a thin partition wall, and in those days wireless mice (mouses, meeses?) were single channel with no encoding so when the finance person moved his mouse there was just enough signal to cause erratic movement in the MD's mouse.
*His other one was to buy a Sony Vaio laptop from Dixons without asking. 13 months later we had to scrap it due to driver issues. Dixons weren't interested as it was out of warranty, Sony UK reckoned it was a parts bin special direct from Sony Japan so nothing to do with them,
Re: Closest I've seen...
Ah, the joys of cleaners moving or unplugging things. At one job I used to leave my memory deficient Sun workstation compiling overnight, and often found it had been brutally turned off by the cleaner yanking the plug out to use the socket for their vacuum cleaner. The cleaner only spoke Spanish, and this being before Google Translate or similar, I had to ask a Spanish speaking friend to help me write a polite sign that I put above the plug sockets. The sign suggested they use the sockets at the other end of the room. The sockets that our hated manager had his PC plugged into...
Gotta love his kind
Well, there's your problem.... Jamie Hyneman anyone?
When in doubt
C4
Such memories...
Ah, the joy of the diskette. Figuring out which manufacturer's media worked most reliably in which manufacturer's drives. Explaining to users why diskettes shouldn't be used as coffee cup mats. Carefully extracting the (usually 5.25") diskette from its jacket, rinsing it under a tap, drying off and replacing the diskette in the jacket of another sacrificial one, because the user (accountant's secretary) ignored the bit about cup mats. Explaining to a customer who was having trouble with reading diskettes that folding them in 4 to fit your shirt pocket really isn't a good idea. Turning single-sided diskettes in to dodgy double-sided by cutting the notch on the other edge of the jacket (it was an emergency, game state needed saving). Trying to get some sort of recognisable tune out of ACT Sirius (Victor 9000) diskette drives - which had variable speed zones across the disk. Attaching 8" drives ("Big D", I think?) to PCs for data transfer (EBCDIC to ASCII, anybody?).
Them were the days :-)
Re: Such memories...
I remember how amazingly fast discs seemed compared to loading from tape on the BBC Micros at school.
Greybeard -->
Re: Such memories...
You missed diskettes stapled into reports, and sticking the floppy to a filing cabinet with a fridge magnet.
Density
Many many years ago, we had a mix of 3.5 inch HD and DD floppies at our place. We also had a number if IBM PS/2's that were quite lax at checking what type of floppy disk was in the drive and would happily format DD disks (720KB) to HD capacity (1.44MB). Given that the DD media was manufactured as HD but failed to make the grade, this was mostly fine. Until of course the incorrectly formatted disk was taken to a machine that did check the disk type properly....
I still have an 8" hard sectored floppy knocking about somewhere, with a collection of documents I wrote on a Philips WP system in the mid 80s. I wonder if anyone, anywhere can still read that?
LSI11/03
That takes me back very nearly 40 years - we used those for our "Small Systems" course at uni, which was effectively assembly level programming.