UK spy boss warns China hopes Russia will help it take over tech standards
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- News link: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2022/03/31/gchq_sir_jeremy_fleming_speech/
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In a [1]speech delivered on Thursday at the Australian National University's National Security College, Fleming said the world is experiencing "generational upheaval" of security architectures.
One sign of that upheaval is China's increasingly strident attempts to shape technology standards.
China believes Russia will support its digital markets and technology plans
"China is a sophisticated player in cyberspace. It has increasing ambition to project its influence beyond its borders and a proven interest in our commercial secrets," Fleming said.
"It also has a competing vision for the future of cyberspace and it's increasingly influential in the debate around international rules and standards. China's bringing all elements of state power to control, influence design and dominate technology – if you like, the cyber and the fiber," he added.
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"Without action it is increasingly apparent that the key technologies on which we all rely on for prosperity and security won't be shaped and controlled by the West in the future," Fleming said.
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Fleming is not a lone voice on this issue. The Biden administration has made increased US presence in standards processes a priority, and the internet community has pushed back strongly against China's plan for a "New IP" standard that has potential to [5]fragment the internet and allow more central control. China is pushing New IP through the International Telecommunications Union – not the Internet Engineering Task Force or the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers that currently drive IP development and internetworking standards. China's choice of standards bodies is widely interpreted as forum shopping, to find a receptive audience for a proposal that would not be accepted by current gatekeepers.
The director predicted China and Russia's recently restated friendship could derail China's attempts to become a cyber power.
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"China believes Russia will provide additional impetus and support to its digital markets and its technology plans," he opined. "A China that wants to set the rules of the road –the norms for a new global governance – is not well served by close alliance with a regime that wilfully and illegally ignores them all."
Fleming's speech also offered an assessment of Russia's cyber-ops in its illegal invasion of Ukraine.
"We've seen sustained intent from Russia to disrupt Ukrainian government and military systems," he said, plus "what looks like some spillover of activity affecting surrounding countries. And we've certainly seen indications which suggests Russia's cyber actors are looking for targets in the countries that oppose their actions."
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Fleming said some have expressed surprise that Russia has not executed cyber attacks on a scale that would see them considered "cyber Pearl Harbors."
"It was never our understanding that a catastrophic cyber-attack was central to Russia's use of offensive cyber or to their military doctrine," he said.
Fleming offered other observations on the illegal war. Among them: "It increasingly looks like Putin has massively misjudged the situation.
"It's clear he misjudged the resistance of the Ukrainian people. He underestimated the strength of the coalition his actions would galvanise. He under-played the economic consequences of the sanctions regime. He over-estimated the abilities of his military to secure a rapid victory.
"We've seen Russian soldiers – short of weapons and morale – refusing to carry out orders, sabotaging their own equipment and even accidentally shooting down their own aircraft."
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Russia's use of misinformation has also not gone well.
"Russia wrote the hybrid warfare book," Fleming said. "State media, online media and agents of influence are all used to obfuscate motivations and justify military actions." Promulgating disinformation to "sow mistrust in the evidence and to amplify false narratives" is another Russian tactic.
"But here again, it's clear that Putin has miscalculated. President Zelensky's information operation has shown itself to be extremely effective. It's agile, multi-platform, multi-media and extremely well-tailored to different audiences.
"In the UK, it's focused in a new Government Information Cell which identifies and counters Kremlin disinformation targeted at UK and international audiences," Fleming added, noting unprecedented use of intelligence to combat Russian misinformation.
"In my view, intelligence is only worth collecting if we use it, so I unreservedly welcome this development," Fleming said.
Fleming concluded his talk by calling for renewed collaboration between nations, and for nations to begin "working with businesses in new and truly collaborative ways.
"And to do this we need to make sure that our counteroffer – to states who haven't yet decided which way they should jump – is persuasive and coherent. Too often it's not.
"Whatever we do, we must make sure that we stay true to our values – those that have made our systems and democracies so successful and will do so in the future too," he added, but also noted "all of this change will take decades to resolve.
"But what I can be clear on now is that how we approach these challenges will be as important as what our response is." ®
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Re: The war in Ukraine is a devastating blow to the image of a mighty Russia
> It should have been a win
No, it should have never happened.
If Putin hadn't been so isolated, mistrusting his own advisers and believing his own bullshit, then he might have known that he could never win in Ukraine.
I'm not defending the invasion, far from it.
But Putin went in, that's a fact, and there is 70 years of NATO paranoia that says that Putin's army should have steamrolled the place.
That didn't happen. Not by any measure.
On tech standards, China could simply create its own version of the ISO. Base it on them for compatibility initially, and release the docs for free.
An awful lot of PhD thesus are coming out of China too, compared to us lot. Something to do with actually recognising and funding education instead of using it as a cash cow.
Many of my former university researcher colleagues have left and gone into commercial roles instead. Better hours , conditions and pay. Says it all.
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Chinese technology always comes with at least one weak point.
Also, Chinese IT always comes with brazen spyware, even worse than the Google-FB-MSFT-CIA spyware.
The Chicoms can build 777G phone networks and phones with 6 cameras on each side.
I will stick with a low-bandwidth Linux laptop from Bulgaria, without high speed backdoors.
Re: The World's Weakest Metal: Chinesium
Well, this is exactly the point.
China can create as many standards as it likes. Nobody else has to use them.
If 'New IP' has flaws then the rest of the Internet will use old IP or Western IP or whatever else it chooses. China can choose how to interact with the rest of the Internet the way it does now.
Although in the UK I suspect the Government will leap aboard the New IP train the moment they hear it offers them them ways to control the Internet. Doesn't seem to matter who we vote for, the answer is always 'Internet bad!'.
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It is high time for Europe (no EU needed for this purpose) to build our own computers and communication systems. Free of the American, Russian or Chicom spyware.
I prefer a small, secure computer to a high speed, blinking backdoor.
We already have the pieces:
ARM CPU
OLIMEX laptop
Infineon, STM, NXP semiconductors
Trolltech GUI
seL4 operating system
INRIA proven correct C compiler
Modula-2
Eiffel
Nokia
DeltaChat secure, GDPR compatible messenger
Re: IT Airbus
Except that Europe can't actually build them, since ARM is fabless, there is no advanced substrate manufacturing (yet, in 2/3 years things might change), there is very little advanced PCB manufacturing (i.e. no high-frequency communications), no big optical fiber companies (no photonics for comms, datacenters etc.), there is no IP or manufacturing for advanced storage, no high-volume display manufacturing, ... The list could go on.
Even if one managed to get that on the continent, one would still be missing the manufacturing of the materials (polymers, metals, silicon) for those devices.
This new wave of protectionism and "independence" in the name of security is pushing in the opposite direction, calling to eliminate (regardless of feasibility) the mutually beneficial trade relationships which are one of the main instruments in diplomacy.
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The hypocrisy is breathtaking ...
The only reason this is news is envy. You can bet your bottom dollar that China is trying to do all the things our governments would loved to have done years ago.
as if there aren't enough things to sort out in this country.
shooting down their own aircraft
Yeah, I wouldn't read too much into that. Hardly the first time badly trained clowns have done that.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2877349.stm
Trying to take over the standards process? Yes, they keep copying the West - in this case Microsoft.
Standards created by the USA
China is trying to introduce "undemocratic values as the default for vast swathes of future tech and the standards that govern it."
I don't remember the standards introduced by the US govt and companies, being decided upon democratically. Some are good, but others are dire. The fact that M$ Word format is the default standard for documents is dire.
Re: Standards created by the USA
Let's not confuse things.
ISO is a standard. IEEE makes standards, ASTM makes standards. IETF makes standards. And they are made rather democratically on technical merits.
"Some are good, but others are dire. The fact that M$ Word format is the default standard for documents is dire."
That is not a standard, that is history (surely with politics involved) and uneducated consumers. Just like why Windows is the most used OS, Google the most used search engine, etc. etc.
With China, we are talking about a system that until 1989 condemned relativity, quantum mechanics, the big bang theory on the basis that they were not Marxist theories (e.g. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/243755811_Organized_criticism_of_Einstein_and_relativity_in_China_1949-1989). And that political system has not changed.
Use your intelligence?
"intelligence is only worth collecting if we use it".
Plausible, but dogmatic. Depends what you mean by 'use'.
The war in Ukraine is a devastating blow to the image of a mighty Russia
Russia's failure in Afghanistan was understandable. It was a mistake for everyone who ever set foot there.
Russia's failure in Ukraine is not understandable. It should have been a win. Maybe not an easy one, but a win, nonetheless.
To have the Russian army bogged down, or even retreating, is a damning indictment of a serious lack of preparation and foresight.
The bear has lost its claws. Russia's credibility as a military threat is in the toilet, and Putin's reputation has been hit for six.
I wonder what mayhem will come from that.