Win 11 adds 'requirements not met' nag for unsupported hardware
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The latest Release Preview of Windows 11 [1]adds an [2]undocumented feature that slaps a line of text in the lower right hand side of the Windows desktop and a similar warning in the Settings app for any system that fails to meet Windows 11's exacting standards.
The message is short and to the point: "System requirements not met. Go to Settings to learn more."
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It's also far less obtrusive than the watermarks on unactivated Windows 11 systems, which shows inside full-screen apps. This one does not.
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Microsoft's strict [6]hardware requirements for Windows 11 are well known, and the [7]method for bypassing them is likely also known to anyone who needs to run Windows 11 on older computers or in a virtual environment.
Even when circumvented, Microsoft takes pains to notify users, which can get cumbersome in enterprise environments. (This will be rare, as Windows 11 on unsupported hardware is nightmare fuel for admins.)
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However, the warnings are not as burdensome as the hardware requirements, which have kept Windows 11 software from running on countless machines that didn't meet the requisite 4GB RAM, 1GHz 64-bit processor.
As of November 2021, Microsoft's latest operating system was only on [9]0.21 percent of systems included in a survey of 10 million IT assets, compared to Windows XP's 3.62 percent.
Microsoft didn't respond to a question about whether or not it plans to take any additional action against those running Windows 11 on unqualified hardware. The Windows-maker put a number of restrictions in place on [10]unregistered copies of Windows 10, but hardware requirements aren't the same as violating terms of service.
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Microsoft would be setting itself up for serious PR blowback if it started restricting Windows 11 on unqualified hardware after upsetting people with strict hardware requirements in the first place.
[12]Microsoft's problem child, Windows 11, is here. Will you run it? Can you run it? Do you even WANT to run it?
[13]Windows 11 in detail: Incremental upgrade spoilt by onerous system requirements and usability mis-steps
[14]Want to check out Windows 11 but don't want to buy a new PC? Here's how to bypass the hardware requirements
[15]Running Windows 10? Microsoft is preparing to fire up the update engines
Microsoft has previously stated that Windows 11 installs on unsupported hardware [16]won't be entitled to updates , though when and how that cutoff is decided remains unclear, as this feature would have been pointless had that time already come.
It's also worth noting that, as previously reported by The Register, hardware requirement checks on Windows 11 are only performed when [17]upgrading a PC from Windows 10 , and it's those instances where the bypass comes in, and where warnings will start to appear.
Fresh Windows 11 installations from an ISO file don't check for hardware requirements, so if you're willing to start fresh you might be able to avoid this entire kerfuffle.
Unless, that is, Microsoft is adding that watermark to all systems, even those with a fresh installation that didn't experience a hardware check with a prior version of Windows 11. ®
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[1] https://twitter.com/XenoPanther/status/1503809634053799936
[2] https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2022/03/15/releasing-windows-11-build-22000-588-to-beta-and-release-preview-channels/
[3] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/oses&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2YjkDoT7D65gX92ftABf09AAAAIY&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0
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[6] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/windows-11-requirements#:~:text=Processor%3A%201%20gigahertz%20(GHz),required%20to%20install%20Windows%2011
[7] https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/06/bypass_windows_11_requirements/
[8] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/oses&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44YjkDoT7D65gX92ftABf09AAAAIY&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0
[9] https://www.theregister.com/2021/11/17/lansweeper_windows_11/
[10] https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/using-an-unactivated-windows-10/d7420644-fb2d-4c19-8948-0c7199e90e35
[11] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/oses&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=3&c=33YjkDoT7D65gX92ftABf09AAAAIY&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0
[12] https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/05/windows_11/
[13] https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/05/windows_11_in_detail/
[14] https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/06/bypass_windows_11_requirements/
[15] https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/24/windows_10_updtae_incoming/
[16] https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/06/bypass_windows_11_requirements/
[17] https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2022/01/24/windows_10_updtae_incoming/
[18] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/
Re: Nix it in el Reg
Until the next update changes everything.
The game of cat and mouse continues...
Re: Nix it in el Reg
What is it with the people at Microsoft, that think they have the god given right to do this?
Maybe someone should point out to Satya Nadella, the ins and outs of the simplicity of an MK light switch, because the 'current ones' have been in place 15 years in my house, and never once have they failed, and never once have MK told me they are 'out of date' and need replacing.
Microsoft Windows does the drudge, in the same way as an MK light switch and like MK light switches, the basic functionality of Windows hasn't changed since Windows 7 or even longer, aka. 15 years.
Microsoft needs to remember it's what happens in the room when the light is on that is important, not the switch itself.
Re: Nix it in el Reg
Well there's also shitheads like TurboTax that declared my Windows 7 unacceptable
Then the fun began when Windows 10 shit the bed when it saw my USB CDROM drive, which works fine in Linux and Windows 7. No amount of Windows updates, BIOS updates, or driver installs made it work.
Correction
"Even when circumvented, Microsoft takes pains to notify users, which can get cumbersome in enterprise environments. (This will be rare, as Windows 11 on unsupported hardware is nightmare fuel for admins.)"
FTFY
Re: Correction
Certainly a support nightmare, because users will wonder where all the right click context-sensitive menus have disappeared to.
Even the option to delete a file is somewhat hidden (non-obvious), in Windows 11, with users having to resort to a modern icon on the 'command bar' (replaces the ribbon bar), in Windows 11 file explorer, the menu option 'Delete' is now missing, hidden under 'Show more options'.
Microsoft needs to wake up to the fact that I will NOT buy new hardware whenever they decide they want more revenue...
Cue the Linux users
This will be a great opportunity for users to abandon Windows and all their favourite apps, and move over to Linux and the pleasures of apt-get.
Re: Cue the Linux users
Can't tell if you are being sincere or if you actually struggle with apt-get... ;).
I will give you an up-vote for the benefit of the doubt.
Re: pleasures of apt-get
Other package managers are available.
Choose the distro that meets your own use case.
apt
now.
Re: Cue the Linux users
Exactly. It's so nice when I can say "apt install [package]" and it downloads it, figures out what else needs to be installed, and just does it.
I say "apt update" and "apt upgrade" on the 1st and 15th of the month and I'm good to go.
It Just Works.
The Windows 11 ISO has 'hard blocks' in place, even with a clean install.
"Fresh Windows 11 installations from an ISO file don't check for hardware requirements, so if you're willing to start fresh you might be able to avoid this entire kerfuffle."
Microsoft changed things very late in the day, and obfuscated things, regarding the retail ISO "Get Windows 11 ISO".
There are 'hard blocks' in place even for a clean install.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows11/
The ISO (downloaded from this URL) does check the hardware requirements during a clean install and places 'hard blocks' in place on the hardware if there is no TPM chip, Secure Boot enabled or a processor that meets the minimum specification (Intel Gen 8 or later).
Yes, there are ways to bypass this (registry setting hacks or removal of a key file from the ISO), but the ISO by default 'as shipped' has 'hard blocks' in place for both a clean install and an in place upgrade.
It won't install, and you can't bypass those checks, i.e. Microsoft doesn't treat such checks as a warning during the installation aka. 'soft blocks', it stops you from installing Windows 11.
Re: The Windows 11 ISO has 'hard blocks' in place, even with a clean install.
That's because Microsoft believes it is their computer, not yours and they only want the latest and best hardware for their attempts at a working OS.
What about?
Those of us who have supported hardware and still don't want to trust Win11 for the next few years?
Re: What about?
Silent updates.
Re: What about?
Silent updates? That'l be Linux then...
Re: What about?
Yep. One day soon you'll power on your PC and be greeted with a fullscreen "Hi! We upgraded your computer to Windows 11 for you! Now while we move all your personal data to our cloud, create your Microsoft account so you can log in, and check out all these amazing offers and addictive games from our carefully selected partners! We think you'll love Candy Soda Saga!"
I wish I was certain I was joking.
Re: What about?
Microsoft's strict hardware requirements for Windows 11 are well known, and the method for bypassing them is likely also known to anyone who needs to run Windows 11 on older computers or in a virtual environment.
What is not so well known is how to prevent Micros~1 from installing Win 11 on a machine that meets "Micros~1's strict hardware requirements", because the machine's "operator" 1 just doesn't want it.
1 I originally typed "owner" here, but as any fule nose, from Micros~1's perspective, you don't own your machine...they do.
Re: What about?
I guess disabling the TPM in the BIOS should mean it doesn't make the requirement?
Although I expect MS will start to silently drop these restrictions if the number of Windows 11 installs doesn't tick up and too many people stick on 10.
Re: What about?
But then you get a huge warning in the Settings -> Windows Update saying the system isn't W11 compatible etc. Fortunately this isn't a problem, W10 will continue to update. Although like GWX, expect the nagging to get more desperate as we get closer to W10 EoL.
However, if MS determines your machine is W11 compatible, you do have problems as it seems it only permits the installation of critical updates, blocking feature updates from say 2004/20H2/21H1 to 21H2, they would much prefer users to click on the upgrade now to W11. Whilst there are ways around this, it should be unnecessary
Re: What about?
Those of us who have more than adequate hardware (I do) and STILL have no intention of "trusting" Win -any number you like - EVER? Icon cos you already know what I TRUST.
Just when you thiught that they could not sink any lower
they come out with this...
The more that they apply clusterfucks like this to the OS... the happier I feel for getting off their bandwagon in half a decade ago..
macOS and Linux provide all my computing needs. microsoft.com is blocked at my firewall and has been for 4+ years.
Dear Microsoft
"Operating System usability and functionality requirements not met. Must try a lot harder."
Now piss off and try again.
Windows 11 is proof that ...
Windows 10 is the last version of Windows you will ever need.
Seems fair
If and when Microsoft decides to add some feature(s) to Win11 that will require certain functions only found on the supported CPU list, people won't be able to claim that they weren't duly warned.
Nix it in el Reg
HKCU > Control Panel > UnsupportedHardwareNotificationCache > SV2
Change to 0.
:)