Big Blue Rinse: IBM looked to reinvigorate its 'dated maternal workforce'
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- News link: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2022/02/14/ibm_age_discrimination_court_documents/
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A [1]document unsealed last Friday in the case file of Lohnn vs International Business Machines discloses evidence gathered by the plaintiff in which a person whose identity is redacted applauds "use of the disparaging term 'Dinobabies' to describe older IBM employees, as well as his plan for how to oust them from IBM's workforce, stating his intent to 'accelerate change by inviting the dinobabies (new species) to leave' and make them an Extinct Species'."
The document says the plaintiff also has IBM corporate planning documents that discuss IBM's recruitment plans and detail its workforce composition. That document is described as offering the following detail:
IBM was focused on hiring "Early Professional Hires" (a term IBM frequently uses for young employees fresh out of college or high school), "correcting seniority mix", and other similar terms evidencing strategies to replace older employees with younger employees.
Other evidence described in the document concerns an IBM plan to ask older workers to relocate or leave, with the expectation staff would choose the latter.
In 2017 The Register reported on a [2]remote office consolidation program that made just such a relocate-or-leave offer.
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Another [4]document [PDF] revealed last week describes IBM's "dated maternal workforce" and argues "this is what must change." That document also calls for IBM to "Shift headcount mix towards greater % of Early Professional hires."
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The second document also contains quotes from correspondence between a person whose identity has been redacted and a human resources team assumed to be IBM's, as follows:
Our millennial population trails competitors. The data below is very sensitive – not to be shared – but wanted to make sure you have it. You will see that while Accenture is 72% millennial we are at 42% with a wide range and many units falling well below that average. Speaks to the need to hire early professionals – and to avoid using downbanding of existing employees as a way to fill jobs. Honestly I think we should stop this practice – it means over-paying, creates blockers and inhibits bringing in new thinking from the outside.
IBM applied to have the documents remain off the public record, but the judge disagreed with that request.
A New York Times [7]report on the filing quotes IBM spokesperson Adam Pratt as stating "IBM never engaged in systemic age discrimination," and explaining that employees were let go "because of shifts in business conditions and demand for certain skills, not because of their age." IBM has also told media that in 2020 median age of its staff remains at 48 – the same as it was in 2010.
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[11]IBM researcher suing for age discrimination blames CEO Arvind Krishna for his ousting
The documents and their contents matter, the plaintiffs argue, because IBM's arbitration process for workers includes broad confidentiality agreements that prevent such material coming to light. The processes therefore stymie other former IBMers who feel they may wish to pursue an age discrimination action against Big Blue.
The plaintiffs therefore hoped the court would rule that IBM's arbitration agreement is unenforceable.
The case continues, as does Rusis vs International Business Machines Corp. Hundreds of former IBMers now allege, and are fighting, age discrimination at Big Blue. ®
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[1] https://regmedia.co.uk/2022/02/14/pacer_lohnn_vs_ibm.pdf
[2] https://www.theregister.com/2017/02/08/ibm_no_more_telecommuting/
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[7] https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/12/business/economy/ibm-age-discrimination.html
[8] https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/02/brocade_salesman_unfair_dismissal_tribunal/
[9] https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/05/ibm_tss_redundancy_biased_inadequate/
[10] https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/07/better_com_ceo_fires_900_on_zoom/
[11] https://www.theregister.com/2021/11/22/ibm_age_discrimination/
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The funny thing is they compare themselves to Accenture...
Not to the biggest software and hardware companies...
Re: The funny thing is they compare themselves to Accenture...
Well Beancounters do only understand other beancounters...
And lets face it IBM hasnt been anything but a consultancy for over a decade now...
Re: The funny thing is they compare themselves to Accenture...
That's true - they also measured how long those millennials stays working for Accenture before looking for a better job? That's one of the main reason those consultancies have a younger workforce.
Re: The funny thing is they compare themselves to Accenture...
Not sure what you mean here? Accenture are definitely not a firm of accountants.....
Well it's certainly not a hardware firm. Not unless auditing has really changed a lot in the past decade.
Accenture
Accenture aren't auditors either....
Re: Accenture
All consultancies are run by Beancounters. That's why they can, with a straight face, offer bids for work which are vastly under cost, because they know they will nickel and dime you until they make there usual obscene profits.
If they were run by engineers, scientists, or perhaps just decent human beings, they'd quote the cost for the actual work plus a reasonable profit.
Of course they wouldn't get the job then because the Beancounters at the purchasing firm would look at the numbers and see they're not as cheap as the Beancounters run consultancy. So what can you do?
So I repeat Beancounters only understand Beancounters...
Their own homepage says "Accenture embraces the power of change to create 360° value and shared success in the U.K. for our clients, people, shareholders, partners and communities." so it looks as if they don't know what they do either.
Bankers comparing sizes...
US Banker: Our staff work more hours than yours.
UK Banker: Our staff bring in more money than yours.
I can understand paying some attention to age if a significant proportion of the workforce will retire in the same year. What really matters is achievement and if IBM manglement are optimising for age instead then they are making determined progress on their path to irrelevance.
Prefering burnout over experience
> You will see that while Accenture is 72% millennial we are at 42%
Maybe the reason that Acc(id)enture has such a high proportion of younger employees is that they very rapidly leave the company in favour of better employment elsewhere.
Better options anywhere else
Why would anyone want to work for IBM these days? Just about anywhere else is a better option, even Accenture.
A New York Times report on the filing quotes IBM spokesperson Adam Pratt as stating "IBM never engaged in systemic age discrimination," and explaining that employees were let go "because of shifts in business conditions and demand for certain skills, not because of their age."
Nominative determinism?
Compare with Accenture?
Accenture - not an outfit I'd choose for any comparative purposes.
(I've worked with them).
IBM suck balls
Treating experienced staff as 'overheads' to be got rid of, is typical short-term beancounter asshole behaviour typical in all corporations.
16 going on 64
"IBM has also told media that in 2020 median age of its staff remains at 48 – the same as it was in 2010."
According to
[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginni_Rometty#2012%E2%80%932020:_Leadership_of_IBM
"She became president and CEO on January 1, 2012"
"She remained executive chairman until Dec 31, 2020"
So that median age was probably kept artificially high by the presence of her in the headcount.
A line from the song written by a 16 year old Paul McCartney goes
"Will you still need me, will you still feed me
When I'm sixty-four?"
Ginni Rometty is 64.
64-16=48
16 - the desired hiring age for IBM
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginni_Rometty#2012%E2%80%932020:_Leadership_of_IBM