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First they came for Notepad. Now they're coming for Task Manager

(2022/01/20)


Windows' murderous Task Manager looks set to get a makeover in Windows 11 after a work-in-progress turned up in the latest Insider Dev Channel build.

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Remembering the good times

The build, [2]22538 , is an otherwise relatively mundane emission from the Windows team.

Sure, there was great excitement among the community when the volume control that harked back to the days of Windows 8 was ditched in favour of something a bit more in keeping with the world of Windows 11 (you can now change the volume using your mouse or touchpad). But Task Manager has so far retained its last redesign, and still looks like a throwback to Windows of yesteryear.

[3]That's assuming users can actually find it . Infamously, Microsoft removed the familiar right-click-on-the-taskbar approach of old for Windows 11 and adopted a slightly odd right-click-on-the-start-button method instead.

The original Task Manager was a utility developed by former Microsoft programmer Dave Plummer and [4]first turned up in Windows NT 4 . "Task Manager is," said Plummer, "quite frankly, [5]a natural born killer ."

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Or at least it was, until the poor thing was defanged as Windows evolved. Its inability to be quite as murderous these days as Plummer had originally intended has led to gnashing of teeth by administrators and a "You were supposed to kill the Not Responding Tasks, not join them" [7]meme .

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Still, no trace of the occasionally muddled UI of Windows 10 must remain, and this is no doubt why Microsoft is tinkering with the appearance of Task Manager, as noted by [10]@FireCubeStudios with credit to other users including [11]@gus33000 (Gustave Monce - notable for other tinkering, including [12]getting Windows 11 up and running on a Lumia 950 XL phone .)

[13]Notes on the untimely demise of 3D Pinball for Windows

[14]BeOS rebuild / Haiku has a new feature / that runs Windows apps

[15]2021: A Bork Odyssey. Is it remake of Disney's The Black Hole or explorer.exe being shown the door?

[16]Revealed: Why Windows Task Manager took a cuddlier approach to (process) death and destruction

[17]The inevitability of the Windows 11 UI: New Notepad enters the beta channel

We managed to get the work in progress up and running, and yes - it does indeed look like Microsoft is pondering a redesign of Task Manager to fit better with the Windows 11 aesthetic.

However, the new design can't really be described as functional at this stage (and would not be dissuaded from its conviction that we were running on a Surface Pro 8). It does seem that after the [18]Notepad redesign, nothing is sacred in the eyes of the Windows behemoth.

Hidden goodies aside, the new build also contains updates to the voice access feature and a fix to stop Explorer crashing for some users when hardware volume control buttons are jabbed. Interestingly, there was also a fix for "an issue that was impacting Task Manager reliability."

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Sadly, we were afflicted by one of the known issues : there are two arrows on our taskbar for the hidden icon flyout and text and icons are misaligned. Microsoft recommended a reboot, which had no effect for us. But hey – this is development code after all. ®

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[1] https://regmedia.co.uk/2020/05/26/tm-winxp.png

[2] https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2022/01/19/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22538/

[3] https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/05/windows_11_in_detail/

[4] https://www.theregister.com/2020/05/26/task_manager_confession/

[5] https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/30/windows_task_manager_termination/

[6] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/oses&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2YemVOVNwkKGKbs63HbQD3AAAAIw&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0

[7] https://preview.redd.it/jbh0t0puet011.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=f3fcd3445bd26c25285e37466f4076a0c0232d5a

[8] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/oses&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44YemVOVNwkKGKbs63HbQD3AAAAIw&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[9] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/oses&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=3&c=33YemVOVNwkKGKbs63HbQD3AAAAIw&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[10] https://twitter.com/FireCubeStudios/status/1483901005255348227?cxt=HHwWhsC4wcWG8JcpAAAA

[11] https://twitter.com/gus33000

[12] https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/30/windows_11_pi/

[13] https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/07/pinball/

[14] https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/10/haiku_linux_wine/

[15] https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/09/bork/

[16] https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/30/windows_task_manager_termination/

[17] https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/06/notepad_update/

[18] https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/06/notepad_update/

[19] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/oses&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44YemVOVNwkKGKbs63HbQD3AAAAIw&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[20] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



Anonymous Coward

Yes, yes we all know what the WindowsXP task manager looks like but you've neglected to show us the new one

Geoffrey W

https://www.windowslatest.com/2022/01/20/our-first-look-at-redesigned-task-manager-for-windows-11/

Geoffrey W

Oh, and the current task manager doesn't look like the article screenshot either. It has already been redesigned. The new redesign isn't really all that different from the current design. A bit of a non story really. Yawn...[returns to hibernation]...ZZZZ

Anonymous Coward

And it's already available by right-clicking on the Start button, so that's not new either.

As long as Ctrl+Shift+Esc still works in a few years when I'm forced to switch to 11, I'll be good.

logicalextreme

Windows 11 updates the design of tart Menu, Action Center, and even taskbar[…]

Sounds like a saucy update.

JDPower666

It is linked to in the article. Admittedly I did scroll up and down looking for a pic myself so a strange omission, but it is linked to.

Ms just does not know when to stop fiddling

Steve Davies 3

Naturally, while 'Rome burns'.

Their insistence in [redacted] things up is legendary and for most of the time, no good reason.

Re: Ms just does not know when to stop fiddling

alain williams

If it ain't bust don't fix it.

A good design philosophy -- but as a developer I do understand the temptation to fiddle.

NoneSuch

With every Windows update I lose more control of my own system. Processes I cannot kill off when they hang (because as full Admin I don't have authorization) services I cannot change (because you really didn't mean to do that. we at Microsoft know better than you) and the endless invasive telemetry to the point where Powershell fails to open promptly if there is no Internet connection.

Windows is no longer a Operating System. It is a personal data gathering utility tied to profit making similar to crypto currency miners. The more you use it, the more data MS has to sell on to its partners.

Ranting 'cause you love to rant?

Jou (Mxyzptlk)

Killing special Tasks: You have to be "SYSTEM", "TRUSTEDINSTALLER" or one of the other builtin special accounts. If you don't know how to do that you don't need to kill tasks which you cannot kill. Same goes for Service configurations: If you don't know how to change them despite MS trying to block you, you really shouldn't.

Powershell not opening when there is no Internet: Tell us exactly how you achieved that, by default this is not true. But you can whack powershell into a configuration to make it so since Windows is still a somewhat open OS - which proves again that you should not have admin rights in fist place.

You get a point for the telemetry stuff/data gathering, though if you use the normal control panel (on the pro version) it goes down to reporting program crashes and the like. But you can turn that off too.

"But hey – this is development code after all"

Pascal Monett

Yeah, and it's name is Windows 11.

Please bundle Process Explorer directly...

LDS

... and stop the Fluent Design "I wish I could look like a web page and waste as much screen estate as I could while neutering controls" philosophy....

Re: Please bundle Process Explorer directly...

devin3782

Fluent design only an E and an F away from shit

Re: Please bundle Process Explorer directly...

Jou (Mxyzptlk)

You will have to go back to Windows 3.x if you insist on that. Remember "Active Desktop" from Windows 95? Making your desktop background a webpage, making your fast Win95 slow down to a jumping mouse and invited web-virii right to your desktop?

Microsoft recommended a reboot

heyrick

They've been saying that since Windows 95...

Re: Microsoft recommended a reboot

DJV

I'd recommend a re boot up Microsoft's arse*!

*or "donkey" for left-pondians.

Re: Microsoft recommended a reboot

jake

They've been saying that since before MS-DOS 2.x

Chris G

Windows could do with two task managers, one for killing unwanted processes and one to provide a clear path for Windows developers that leads to a fully functional OS that the customers wants.

Don't expect to see either anytime soon.

Jou (Mxyzptlk)

Recommending Process Hacker. My most loved feature: I can set tasks to low priority + low i/o priority (ffmpeg for example) and make it REMEMBER that setting for the selected program.

Don't tend to use windows task manager

tiggity

I use Process Hacker, as its more useful (you may have issues in corporate environments though as a lot of AV & similar "security software" flags it as a nasty, because it has (obv.) lots of low level functionality they deem suspect. You can get the code and build your own to be sure there's no hidden nasties (AV will still whinge though)

Who Cares?

Uncle Ron

I couldn't care less what Microsoft's "plans" for Windows 11 are. Until they rescind their elimination of ALL my home PC's and notebooks from using it, MY plan is to go to Linux Mint when support for 10 is dropped. I'm gone from MS forever. Goodbye. (It wasn't so nice knowing 'ya.)

Re: Who Cares?

Phil Opian-tube

When you do make the change be patient. Linux is not Windows and there is learning curve. It can be frustrating at first but after a few weeks it gets easier and a joy to use. Like many others have said, "I wish I switched sooner". The refreshing feeling that YOUR machine is 100% under YOUR control. It does what you tell it. It does not have hidden masters pulling strings and spying on you. It's stable and runs for weeks before YOU restart it. It upgrades only when you allow it and you can chose what updates if ever.

@Phil Opian-tube - Re: Who Cares?

Anonymous Coward

Getting out of Windows has a steep learning curve no matter which direction you take. It's like getting out of a hole.

@Phil Opian-tube - Re: Who Cares?

Anonymous Coward

Exactly! With Linux and *BSD, the PC trusts you and you trust the PC. This doesn't come free but best part is you can always fall back into the welcoming, warm, infantilizing arms of Windows where you'll be protected from harming yourself.

Stupid

Potemkine!

Microsoft removed the familiar right-click-on-the-taskbar approach of old for Windows 11 and adopted a slightly odd right-click-on-the-start-button method instead.

What's the point, except pissing out users??

Why changing those kind of things people are used to? It just makes things harder to be done.

Re: Stupid

Geoffrey W

I Agree, but it's hardly a Motte and Bailey keeping out marauders from tinkering with a few innards. Once you're aware how to do it you're off and running and will soon forget there was ever an alternative. And it was already on the start right click anyway so there's already a bunch of people who won't even notice the change.

I can't believe I'm defending Microsoft but, come on guys! Really!

Re: Stupid

Phil Opian-tube

The point is M$ and windows is part of the new world order. The constant tinkering, blatant spy ware and control is all conditioning. Spyware used to be illegal but when it is a mass surveillance tool used by governments it gets a pass. And still the mass use it?? Ask yourself why you still use it.

daflibble

Burn all down and start again it's time for star shaped corners and blinking text next year.

Why hasn't windows 12 been announced yet?

Geoffrey W

Nothing is burning down except a few commenters. They moved some stuff from the top to the left, and some stuff from the left to the top. So they rotated a few things. Agreed, it's a bit pointless, but it's hardly a great fire of london. It looked pretty much the same since Windows 8.1. I haven't checked with the blessed windows 7 [genuflect...genuflect] because I can't be arsed finding where I stuck those machines.

Doctor Syntax

The principle of interfaces when they came into computer science was that the interface, by remaining unchanged* enabled the developer to improve the the implementation behind it whilst not requiring the user of the interface to change in step. What does the I in GUI stand for? That's right - interface. So why is that simple principle not being followed?

What really gets up my nose about this is that Microsoft imposes non-optional GUI changes on its victims supporters who then argue that Microsoft can't be ditched for anything else because of the training costs it would involve. Stockholm Syndrome?

* Of course a new facility could require the interface to be augmented but it shouldn't be broken.

The picture in the article is wrong

rmullen0

Why do you have a picture of Windows XP Task Manager? Microsoft changed the look of that a long time ago. The article doesn't even make sense.

"But hey – this is development code after all." Yeah, nah.

ComputerSays_noAbsolutelyNo

Hmm, when I was recently setting up some new computers for colleagues, the pre-installed Windows 10 asked me if I wanted to update to Windows 11. It asked liek some websites ask whether you like to allow cookies or whether you like to allow cookies.

Fortunately paid-for Windows 10 still allows you to remain on Windows 10.

"... a fix to stop Explorer crashing for some users when hardware volume control buttons are jabbed."

Is there any bug description that is more Windows?

OOPS!

Al fazed

Thoght it said, anaesthetic......

ALF

Doctor Syntax

How about implementing top to be run from the command line?

This is why some are still on Win7.

ShadowSystems

Win7 is stable & lets us get shit done.

Along comes Win8, nobody can find anything, the UI blows goats, & the outcry is such that MS is forced to release an update to restore some of the functionality. Meanwhile Win7 users take a "wait & see" attitude in the hopes MS will release an OS that lets us get shit done.

Along comes Win10 that makes Win8 look like visual & functional sanity in comparison. Nobody likes it, it takes forever for folks to figure out where all the functionality has gone (to either work around via MS approved means or to find a 3rd party utility to force the fix down MS' throat), and folks are still having trouble getting shit done. Meanwhile Win7 users are still waiting.

Then comes Win11 & cranks the idiocy up to eleven. Functionality gone, useability gone, UI designed by a drunken myopic colour blind Vogon, and to put shit flavoured frosting on an already shit flavoured cake, MS doubles down on all the shit nobody wants, to remove all the shit they need to get shit done. Meanwhile Win7 users are still waiting.

Yes Win7 is a security issue waiting to be exploited by n'er-do-wells, but Win10/11 has become a security, useability, & functionality shit show exploited by MS itself. Damned if you stay, damned if you "upgrade", so WTF is the answer?

"Just use Linux" isn't really an option for some. From legacy software that is bespoke & nobody has created a newer version to replace (think CNC control software, ancient interface software for hardware nobody makes anymore, etc), or software the Linux community hasn't been interested in creating (and no, the typical person off the street is not about to write the replacement code themselves), Linux can be the answer a lot of the time, but when it's not, it's a deal-breaker that stops the migration dead in it's tracks.

Win7 may be old & crotchety, but then so am I, and at least it lets me get shit done.

Win10/11 is new, shiny, & about as useful as bollocks on a tuba. =-/

Task Manager must be killed...

Marty McFly

Otherwise users may be able to see all the extra garbage MSFT is running on the system.

Remember, 'Monetizing the user after the sale' has been Redmond's strategy for the better part of the past decade.

The meek shall inherit the Earth. (But they're gonna have to fight for it.)