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Technology can sometimes go from east to west: Ubuntu DDE 21.10 remix ships in 22.01

(2022/01/07)


The newest and quite possibly shiniest Ubuntu remix has kicked a new [1]version out the door. Yes, yet another new desktop, but it's a sign of bigger things to come.

Ubuntu DDE stands for Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Edition – in other words, a remix of Ubuntu but with the desktop environment of the Chinese [2]Deepin distro. Deepin, formerly known as the no-less-silly-sounding Hiweed, is the free international edition of a Chinese government-backed enterprise distro called UOS. Deepin is based on Debian, and switched desktops quite a few times in its early versions until UnionTech developed its own desktop environment.

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Ubuntu DDE app store and app menu (click to enlarge)

We don't tend to hear much about it in the Western world, but open-source operating systems have been making great leaps forward in East Asia. At the turn of the century, the region was notorious for [4]its use of pirated software . The problems with updates and malware this caused, plus a desire to reduce dependence on American companies that mirrors [5]Western mistrust of [6]Chinese vendors , led to Beijing's [7]"3-5-2 policy" to phase out foreign hardware and software . This is scheduled to happen by the end of 2022.

One of several [8]results is KylinOS , which started out based on FreeBSD but moved to Linux with its third version. Since 2013, there's also been [9]an Ubuntu-based variant . The Reg installed Deepin, Ubuntu Kylin and Ubuntu DDE for a quick look, and came away impressed.

We can see why Deepin is cited by many as a polished and well-integrated desktop distro. This extends from surface cosmetics – a themed graphical GRUB menu, an attractively minimalist boot animation of its name gradually filling with sloshing liquid colour, a range of desktop wallpapers, colour themes, and subtle sound effects. This also extends deeper – for instance, software updates are integrated into the control panel and automatically install in the background, and the OS comes with a good range of its own homegrown apps, including a Chromium-based browser, and an app store that includes FOSS favourites such as Firefox, plus useful proprietary programs such as Skype and Google Chrome.

[10]Microsoft pushes ahead adapting Azure for 5G telecoms after swallowing AT&T's Network Cloud

[11]Europe completes first phase of silicon independence project

[12]Test this new Linux kernel – but don’t forget Christmas or that you have a family, says Linus Torvalds

[13]Pop!_OS 21.10: Radical distro shows potential but does not play nicely with others

Some of these things are true of Ubuntu Kylin, too. It has its own desktop called [14]UKUI , which faintly reminds us of Windows 7, including tasteful use of transparency effects.

It was originally forked from MATE, but is now going its own Qt-based way, although some MATE components are still recognisable. You can place the taskbar on any screen edge, and it works well in both horizontal and vertical orientations, which is rare and good to see.

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Its app-launcher can be sorted alphabetically, by category or by priority, and offers a full-screen view. The distro comes with both LibreOffice and WPS Office if you prefer the Fluent ribbon-based UI, and offers a LAN chat app, its own app store, a tidy network configuration tool, and more.

Warning: Very China-focused

It seems that Chinese customers expect a higher degree of fit and finish than Western Linux users are accustomed to. The snag for Western users is that both Deepin and Ubuntu Kylin are very China-centric.

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Ubuntu Kylin (click to enlarge)

To pick a few examples, their app stores are full of Chinese-language programs and services, messages occasionally pop up in Chinese, and Deepin's browser defaults to the Baidu search engine.

Both desktops contain built-in input method selectors, which are superfluous if your language uses an alphabet – but you can't remove them. And, of course, you might well feel concerned about the potential for tracking and spyware.

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Which is where Ubuntu DDE fits in: it grafts Deepin's very shiny desktop onto the more familiar Ubuntu base, with standard Ubuntu apps such as Firefox and Thunderbird. Unlike Deepin, Ubuntu DDE's installation program let us select our existing home and swap partitions, and even mount our Windows partition at bootup. The installed OS looks impressively good.

The desktop has a slightly macOS-like floating dock mode called "Fashionable", or a Windows-style anchored taskbar called "Efficient", and in both modes you can move it to all four screen edges. Like Windows, the panel defaults to hiding most status icons under a button, which makes it look tidy. The file manager showed all the other installed OS partitions, listed by name.

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We did encounter some glitches, though: the live medium's try-or-install screen crashed. Once we installed the recommended Nvidia proprietary graphics drivers, the Apple Exposé-like multitasking view stopped working.

The distro describes itself just as "ubuntu GNU/Linux" in the GRUB menu, which is a little unhelpful. Most other remixes shipped along with Ubuntu 21.10 back in October, but Ubuntu DDE only appeared at the beginning of January, these glitches seem to indicate that the team are having some integration difficulties.

A way to go yet

Ubuntu DDE has a lot of promise, but it's not quite there yet. It has some rough edges that both its parents lack. However, the pairing of Ubuntu's installer, app store, third-party support, and so on, plus Deepin's attractive and stylish desktop, will be compelling once the kinks are worked out.

Deepin's desktop and app portfolio is both ambitious and impressive. It's more complete, more customisable, and for us works better than Elementary's customisable equivalents, and embraces apps from outside its ecosystem where Elementary rejects them.

Last year, [20]The Reg looked at Cutefish OS , another radical new environment with Chinese backing. In functionality and style, both Deepin and Cutefish make mainstream desktops like GNOME and KDE look pedestrian and conservative. This is because Western Linux vendors such as Red Hat, SUSE, and Canonical have been focusing on servers for years.

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They have largely abandoned the desktop space to Google and the very limited ChromeOS, and the Linux desktop experience is stagnating. It may yet be that China's 3-5-2 programme and resultant development efforts will result in major improvements to Linux on the desktop. ®

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[1] https://ubuntudde.com/blog/ubuntudde-remix-21-10-impish-release-note/

[2] https://www.deepin.org/en/

[3] https://regmedia.co.uk/2022/01/06/ubuntu_dde1.jpg

[4] https://www.theregister.com/2001/05/21/vietnam_crowned_as_top_software/

[5] https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/18/us_huawei_malware/

[6] https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/18/us_huawei_malware/

[7] https://www.theregister.com/2019/12/09/china_orders_ban_on_us_computers_and_software/

[8] https://www.theregister.com/2019/12/09/china_orders_ban_on_us_computers_and_software/

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2013/03/22/china_makes_linux_os_with_canonical_help/

[10] https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/05/microsoft_azure_network_cloud/

[11] https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/24/european_processor_initiative_phase_one_concludes/

[12] https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/20/linux_5_16_rc6/

[13] https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/16/pop_os_2110_new_system76/

[14] https://www.ukui.org/

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Korev

Maybe it really is the year of Linux on the desktop...

Still waiting, but optimistic

Anonymous Coward

For so many years have been hearing about the Chinese being about to mandate Linux on the Desktop but it never arrives. It would be the smart thing to do for them and would be awesome news. All desktop OS are decent enough to use now, just needs the traction to get developers to build their apps on Linux.

Chinese are smarter than most FOSS worshipers....

LDS

They have no need to mandate something that can't run what they need to run. It wouldn't be smart at all.

And or they rewrite all the desktop applications they need - but probably a lot are still Western ones it would take them a lot of years, money and effort to write, and as the recent news about wholly underfunded but critical FOSS applications and library shown, many developers still like to be paid for their work.

Re: Chinese are smarter than most FOSS worshipers....

Doctor Syntax

Those of us in the West who use Linux or BSD as our daily desk/laptop OS are able to find all the applications we need. almost always FOSS applications. The question, then, is not necessarily whether the applications exist but whether there are Chinese translations for their UIs. If they aren't available from the original projects the Chinese would be able to provide their own if only they had access to the code...

Re: Still waiting, but optimistic

Doctor Syntax

Do you know that it "never arrives"?

As TFA says, there are several Chinese FOSS alternatives. Is there anyone here who knows if they are actually widely used there?

Re: Still waiting, but optimistic

Korev

They could pop to Munich to see how it's done

Doctor Syntax

When it comes to desktop environments pedestrian and conservative are good. Their purpose is - or should be - to unobtrusively enable the user to run applications and open files. What the user doesn't need is a new, exciting and unfamiliar way of doing or failing to do this that then has to be fathomed out. A DE that makes for an impressive demo runs the risk of being the exact opposite of what the user needs.

But all these new DEs offer "discoverability" don't they? I don't want to spend today discovering how to do what I knew how to do yesterday.

Neil Barnes

Exactly: why on earth do I want a desktop that isn't the same as the one I already know how to use?

unimaginative

I used to regularly change DEs on my kids desktops so they could adapt to computers lookinbg different and not think everything had to work like what they were used to.

@unimaginative - In Microsoft's eyes

Anonymous Coward

this is child abuse. I would be more careful if I were you.

unimaginative

I agree.

I do not spend much time interacting with the DE so it mostly needs to just work. The UI and behaviour of applications matters a great deal, but all I really care about the DE is 1) it displays info and controls I want and 2) I can launch and switch between applications easily.

I use XFCE which is very old fashioned - but it does everything I need.

Rich 2

I don’t think there is anything old fashioned about XFCE. If it isn’t broken….

I use i3 - similarly “old fashioned” - for the same reasons.

There are countless years of people’s lives invested in developing whizzy desktop widgets and other crap that nobody ever uses. The only purpose of such nonsense is to fill up your disk and slow down the machine. Sad really.

Is Ubuntu Even an Os??

Anonymous Coward

I thought Ubuntu was a root kit?? Every time I install the distro my Windows partition starts acting funny.

Re: Is Ubuntu Even an Os??

Doctor Syntax

(Resists sitting duck comment about Windows partition)

"starts acting funny"

I bet helldesk operators just love you.

Wolfclaw

Billions of Linux only desktops in China may force software/game developers to shift resources, which is bad news for Microsoft but good news for us that would like to remove the Windows tax on our systems.

What is the sound of one hand clapping?