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Mozilla founder blasts browser maker for accepting 'planet incinerating' cryptocurrency donations

(2022/01/05)


A few days ago, Mozilla Foundation invited netizens on Twitter to send in cryptocurrency donations via a new payment service provider.

This move by the Firefox browser maker [1]rapidly drew criticism, including that from Jamie Zawinski – who [2]named the Mozilla project and was one of the original Netscape [3]developers .

You can read the blistering thread [4]here yourself; it gives short shrift to the concept of using cryptocurrencies. Zawinski described the payment processor and digital coins as "planet incinerating."

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"Hi, I'm sure that whoever runs [Mozilla's Twitter] account has no idea who I am, but I founded @mozilla and I'm here to say fuck you and fuck this," Zawinski wrote, adding that "everyone involved in the project should be witheringly ashamed of this decision."

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Billy Markus, who co-created Dogecoin, one of the crypto-coins accepted by Mozilla, [8]observed in response to the general condemnation: "Reading the comments in this thread, as much as I rag on crypto-bros being counterproductive at marketing, the vitriolic, hateful, hyperbolic, hypocritical, sanctimonious whining coming from the anti-crypto people is 1,000x more insufferable than the pro-crypto people."

As recently as September, Moz's web-standards lead Tantek Çelik [9]slammed cryptocurrencies as being unsustainable, stating:

Proof-of-work methods (eg, blockchains) are harmful for sustainability… the more such methods are adopted, the more their energy requirements grow, without any discernible upper bound, which is grossly irresponsible given the global environmental crisis.

The Bitcoin-loving [10]laser-eye brigade were predictably [11]unhappy with Çelik's observations.

Zawinski, aka JWZ, who named the [12]CADT model of software development and has a [13]Dunning-Krugerrands tag on his blog for crypto-cash-related posts, is a reliable source of insight and pithy quotes, such as: "Some people, when confronted with a problem, think 'I know, I'll use regular expressions.' Now they have two problems."

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Another gem? "[Perl] combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript."

[15]Waterfox: A Firefox fork that could teach Mozilla a lesson

[16]Sweden asks EU to ban Bitcoin mining because while hydroelectric power is cheap, they need it for other stuff

[17]Another Debian dust-up with Firefox dependencies – but there is an annoying and awkward workaround

[18]Is your Apple Mac running macOS Monterey leaking memory? It may be due to mouse cursor customization

[19]Thousands of Firefox users accidentally commit login cookies on GitHub

Mozilla has accepted crypto-coin [20]donations for years, perhaps as part of its [21]long-ongoing efforts to alienate its own users: it's only the payment provider that changed lately, it seems.

When we approached Zawinski for comment, he said he was "actually far more depressed at the fact that the Long Now Foundation and Internet Archive have bought into this scam

cryptocurrencies – ed.

than that Mozilla has. Because while at this point Mozilla is a largely rudderless privacy-focused advocacy organization instead of a software project, the Long Now Foundation is putatively all about long-term thinking."

He added that there was "literally nothing in the modern tech ecosystem more short-sighted than the gambling instrument and ecological disaster that we know as cryptocurrencies."

We've asked Mozilla for comment. ®

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[1] https://mobile.twitter.com/mozilla/status/1476951030638260225

[2] https://www.davetitus.com/mozilla/

[3] https://www.jwz.org/blog/2011/11/watch-a-vc-use-my-name-to-sell-a-con/

[4] https://mobile.twitter.com/jwz/status/1478022085737803776

[5] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/applications&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2YdYjGVxvn83PE6p@etILUgAAAA8&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0

[6] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/applications&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44YdYjGVxvn83PE6p@etILUgAAAA8&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[7] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/applications&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=3&c=33YdYjGVxvn83PE6p@etILUgAAAA8&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[8] https://twitter.com/BillyM2k/status/1478738029405618176?s=20

[9] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2021Sep/0000.html

[10] https://www.wealthsimple.com/en-ca/magazine/laser-eyes-crypto

[11] https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/mozilla-vs-bitcoin

[12] https://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html

[13] https://www.jwz.org/blog/tag/dunning-krugerrands/

[14] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/applications&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44YdYjGVxvn83PE6p@etILUgAAAA8&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[15] https://www.theregister.com/2021/11/04/waterfox_firefox_fork/

[16] https://www.theregister.com/2021/11/26/sweden_bitcoin_mining_ban/

[17] https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/10/debian_firefox_issues/

[18] https://www.theregister.com/2021/11/17/apple_monterey_memory/

[19] https://www.theregister.com/2021/11/18/firefox_cookies_github/

[20] https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Donate_Bitcoin&oldid=1105674

[21] https://www.theregister.com/2021/11/04/waterfox_firefox_fork/

[22] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



Ilsa Loving

I can't remember if I've heard of this guy before, but just from the quotes posted I can already say I really like him.

Expanding horizons and equations

Anonymous Coward

Ah me, the author has done JWZ a disfavor. Equating the insight that klepto-currencies are hard on the planet with the mere quip that regexes are hard is.. um.. hardly fair. And the resulting pain and toll are hardly comparable. Give the guy credit for expanding his horizons over the ensuing 25 years.

The people sensible enough to give good advice are usually sensible
enough to give none.