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Chinese paper runs interview with Alibaba staffer who claims she was fired after exec rape claim

(2021/12/13)


Chinese state-owned media has run an interview with a woman – identified only by her last name Zhou – who alleged she was fired after claiming one of the firm's execs raped her while on a business trip, according to an interview between Zhou and Dahe Daily .

Zhou was [1]allegedly sexually assaulted on a business trip by a superior back in August, after being pressured to drink excessively with clients. When she reported the incident, Zhou said Alibaba executives demanded she produce video evidence before they would take action. Desperate to be heard, Zhou took to the company intranet, where she posted an 8000-word account of her accusations. She also distributed pamphlets in the corporate canteen.

Dahe Daily [2]published an interview from December 9 with Zhou, where she states that the e-commerce giant terminated her contract without severance pay at the end of November, on the grounds that she spread false information – specifically "being raped by executives and not handling the company's knowledge" and violated corporate policies that forbid "publishing or disseminating inappropriate remarks to the outside world, or deliberately fabricating or disseminating fictitious facts, or disseminating unverified information, causing a bad impact."

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According to a machine translation of the interview, Zhou told Dahe Daily, "In this regard, I would like to say that whether I privately seek out leaders to deal with it, or complain about the lack of results in defending rights in the canteen, or publish articles on Ali's intranet, they are all feedback problems within Ali and have never been disseminated to the outside world." She added that she had not previously been interviewed by the media.

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The story has taken several twists and turns over time. Initially, as Alibaba became laden with a PR nightmare, it fired the accused manager. CEO Daniel Zhang took to the [6]company blog to address the incident. Two more execs resigned, and Alibaba pledged to reform its codes of conduct and workplace policies. It also offered (we swear this is true) [7]self defense training for female staff.

[8]Better CEO is 'taking time off' after firing 900 staff on Zoom

[9]Alibaba the biggest, but more clouds on China's horizon

[10]Alibaba splits itself into Chinese and overseas ops

[11]Activision Blizzard accused by California watchdog of fostering 'frat boy' culture, fatally toxic atmosphere

In September, prosecutors in the town of Jinan, where the incident is alleged to have occurred, decided not to file charges against the manager. One of the execs who resigned, Li Yonghe, later [12]petitioned the court to require Zhou to issue a grand gesture of an apology in the form of a prominent public statement on a national website for 15 days.

Throughout the timeline, Zhou issued only one statement through her lawyer until her interview with Dahe Daily where she discussed the aftermath –inclusive of subsequent negative mental health, harassment, and the threat of lawsuits from the wives of the executives.

Zhou also expressed indignation at Alibaba's actions:

[Speaking] as a victim of a case who has not yet received the care and help she deserves, Alibaba claims to have set up various so-called organizations to protect the rights of women and employees? Do you really care about women, or are you making a show?

We can't help feeling this story is not yet over. We have asked Alibaba for comment. ®

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[1] https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/09/alibaba_fires_manager_alleged_sexual_assault/

[2] https://finance.sina.com.cn/chanjing/gsnews/2021-12-11/doc-ikyamrmy8341543.shtml

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[6] https://www.alizila.com/alibaba-on-assault-interim-investigation-results-and-penalty-decision/

[7] https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/13/alibaba_strengthen_organizational_guardrails_for_positive_workplace_environment/

[8] https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/10/better_ceo_holiday/

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/09/china_cloud_market/

[10] https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/06/alibaba_splits/

[11] https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/23/blizzard_lawsuit_discrimination/

[12] https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/03/alibaba_assault_claim_apology_sought/

[13] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



I'm shocked... well, not actually shocked at all.

The Dogs Meevonks

A Chinese company, trampling over the rights of it's victims... well I'm shocked... actually not shocked at all.

Re: I'm shocked... well, not actually shocked at all.

Potemkine!

I would be surprised if this problem occurs in China only.

Once again the only thing that helped the victim was giving bad PR. Before that, nobody gave a damn about her rights and the prejudice she suffered.

Re: I'm shocked... well, not actually shocked at all.

Anonymous Coward

The original Ali Baba was honest and was saved from the 40 thieves by his slave girl who married his son. I guess that in today's society there is a reverse takeover and the 40 new managers make sure that the girl doesn't marry Ali Baba Jr. and no one lives happily ever after.

Re: A Chinese company, trampling over the rights of it's victims...

sabroni

A company trampling over the rights of it's employees.

FTFY, no need for the racism or to pretend they do this to random people.

Re: A Chinese company, trampling over the rights of it's victims...

snowpages

A company trampling over the rights of its employees.

FTFY

What I'm shocked about..

lglethal

What I'm shocked about is that this interview was actually carried by a State-Owned National Newspaper. That means the CCP backed this woman going public! Obviously Alibaba is in the bad books at the moment, but even so, that this will get any State media coverage is truly shocking!

What next? Going after the Ex-VP for sexually assaulting the Tennis Star Peng Shuai?

Hey, *psssst*!

_LC_

Hey, *psssst*! ¾ of all anchormen and company moguls in Germany have been accused (and proven) of rape and or “sexual misconduct”. I heard that it's mandatory to be a rapist in order to be eligible for presidency in the US. Let's point the finger at China, though. I'm sure that, unlike us, they can't handle things themselves!

Re: Hey, *psssst*!

Warm Braw

In this case, it's China pointing the finger at China. And China doesn't do that unless it has a very compelling reason - which will have nothing to do with the alleged victim. I think that's sufficiently cynical in itself.

Re: Hey, *psssst*!

_LC_

Right, because it has to be sinister. If a Chinese gives you confect, you're about to be poisoned!

It's not like they have courts in China (*Haaaassangetshiiiie!*)...

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