One click, one goal, one mission: To get a one-touch flush solution
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Not one of those novelty models from Japan, mind. No indeed, my self-flushing lav uses a unique system; it must be a DIY job , er, I mean a custom build.
But what do I know? I had a peek inside and the insides are so unfamiliar I may just as well have been staring into an alternative toilet dimension of Lovecraftesque proportions. It's all cogs, levers and pendulums surrounded by barbed wire and mystic runes. I think I spotted a Mayan calendar at the back and I can hear monks chanting. Cthulu would refuse to snip a cable on anything less.
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"Do you have a screwdriver?" asks the plumber, who has turned up literally empty handed. "And a flashlight? Oh, and a pencil and some string?" Next he’ll be asking me for a wrench, copper piping and a blow torch.
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I have called in a plumber because I do not want a self-flushing toilet.
Call me unadventurous but I would prefer a conventional crapper that flushes when you press a button, turn a handle or yank a chain. The one I have at the moment triggers the flush mechanism all by itself every 23 minutes, day and night. The noise is driving us nuts, not least that of the water meter by the front door tick-tick-ticking through the euros with every useless drain and refill.
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The plumber keeps whistling through his teeth, puffing out his cheeks and making clicking noises with his tongue. At first, I thought he was trying to communicate in one of those South African languages and I wondered if I should respond in semaphore or by tapping out Morse code on my knee with spoons.
How hard can it be to make a privy work at the touch of a button? After all, everything works at the touch of a button these days, or at least the sales and promotional material say it does. Whether it's a smart speaker for the home, a project management suite for civil engineering or a surgery stuffed with brain surgery robotics, it'll be marketed as "simple" and "easy to use." One touch is all that's required!
Obviously this is not true.
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I saw a smart speaker advertised to say my entire library of banging tunes was instantly streamable upon me saying a word. What, one word? Which word? "Skelf"? "Adscititious"? "Oxyphenbutazone"?
Or do they mean I can assign a unique single-word shortcut to each track? So, for example, instead of having to clumsily request Der Mussolini by Deutsch Amerikanische Freundschaft three times while Alexa laughs at my accent, I could just say "Dwaal". Or to save me the trouble of ordering the device to play Bomb by Bush, I could simply utter the shortcut "Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis."
[6]Youtube Video
My electricity provider tells me I can call up my bills on screen "at the click of a mouse." I tried this and it doesn't work: apparently, I have to switch on my computer first.
Then I have to run a web browser which, depending on how I set things up, might itself require two clicks, albeit in rapid succession. Even assuming I have already bookmarked my electricity provider's website, I need two more clicks to find the bookmark and launch it. Then I have to log in with a username and password, which my password manager might deal with but I still have to click the "Connect" button. After this I have to dismiss cookie notices, notification requests and the pop-up Helpbot window with further clicks in order to navigate the site's impenetrable menus and eventually locate the billing section.
Then , finally, with a single click, I can call up my bill.
This strikes me a being a bit like a grocery shop claiming "We're located just around the corner!" when in fact you have to drive the first 27 miles to get to that particular corner they're just around.
The plumber has given up humming, hissing and tutting – which is just as well as it has been sending my smart speaker into a tizzy. Who knew that muttering "Ah no no no, tut-tut" was the shortcut to play Anthrax's cover version of Kylie Minogue's I Should Be So Lucky featuring Leonard Cohen on the twanging ruler?
He admits to me that he has never seen a flushing mechanism like it before in his life, which makes me feel a lot better as he reluctantly returns my screwdrivers, pencil, spot welder, electron microscope, ladders and forklift. He says he'll email me a quote and politely takes his leave. The barstard's still walked off with the string I lent him, but no matter: while he was huffing and puffing over the cistern, I lifted his house keys from his jacket by way of collateral. We can exchange later on Glienicke Bridge.
The plumber's reaction reminds me of that of the owner of a small independent garage that used to service my car for many years. The garagist eventually sold up because, he told me, cars had become too computerised for his oily-rag-and-wrench motor mechanic skills.
I imagine that similar emotions were experienced by the transport boss on the Toronto transit system when it [7]fell victim to a ransomware attack last week.
It wasn't exactly [8]The Taking of Pelham One Two Three , was it? Instead of slamming up and down a noisy control room, yelling quotable one-liners in a Bronx accent while sporting a tartan shirt and mustard tie, the transit manager probably ended up in a tiny side-office stacked up with broken monitors, dancing from one foot to another while a PFY poked around on a keyboard.
Ah, good, [9]my groin has lit up . I must have new mail.
I wake up my laptop to check and my email program announces it has updated itself while I was away. I must remember to fix this. A while back, in a fit of pique, I denied it permission to send me notifications, and now it just does whatever it wants without asking me first.
The plumber's email is waiting for me in the inbox but just as I am about to click on it, a message gets in the way to thank me for updating and to announce that I can now call up a list of its revised keyboard shortcuts "with a single touch."
Just the one, eh?
Since you ask, the new magic keystroke is CTRL+Y. I gave it a try using just one touch. Apologies for any typos in this week's column, but my finger is still in a splint.
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Re: Great Reference Mr. Brown
Gesundheit.
Don't make it a Castodrama
Avantgarde flush mechanisms are great until they need fixing.
Just pop down the local DIY store and grab the cheapest all-inclusive kit they do, Mr Dabbs.
Otherwise it'll be many more "Pffft"s, shrugs and €€€s.
(BTW It will turn out to be the o-ring silicone seal that absorbs water and causes water-filled bubbles on the surface of the seal. Just prick them all with a pin. Takes a while but is very satisfying.)
Re: Don't make it a Castodrama
One worse has to be Leroy Merlin. Their Cotê D’Azur branch is just off an almost unmarked road which, if you miss it, puts you right into the A8 péage. The store is up a long winding roads at the top of a hill which peters out to a track before you see the entrance. Store service makes you long for the occasional insult you get at Castodrama or even (what my nearest and dearest calls) BalsUpitrand.
Re: Don't make it a Castodrama
That actually used to be a very nice Habitat.
Thank you for drawing my attention to these devices
I note Amazon has one described as:
No Touch 100% Hygienic Hands Free Infrared Close Coupled Toilet Cistern Complete Fitting Kit Bottom Supply
It's just the close coupling to the bottom supply that has me a little concerned.
But at least it's hands free - not even one click.
Re: Thank you for drawing my attention to these devices
Why is there a need for handsfree flushes?
Is it for prople who don't wash their hands?
Re: Is it for prople who don't wash their hands?
But do you wash hands before or after flushing? What if another user does the opposite?
The only way to be both sure, and considerate of others, is to wash both before *and* after pressing the button/ lever/ whatnot. :-/
Re: Is it for prople who don't wash their hands?
That reminds me of a cruise ship we were on where there was a sign instructing you to use a paper towel to open the toilet door on exiting, but then didn't provide a bin for the used paper towels thus promoting the spread of whatever nasties (probably norovirus back then) that they were concerned about.
Re: Is it for prople who don't wash their hands?
At the motorway services recently I noticed the loo had a touchless flush (to it's credit, it seemed to work as required), but then you hand to use your hand to unlock and open the cubical door!
Re: Is it for prople who don't wash their hands?
I've seen those, but you still have to find a cubicle that is clean enough that you dare sit down (I sometimes take wet towels in to clean the seats because of the scumbags who insist on using cubicles for a Number 1, then do it all over the floor).
But that reminds me of a toilet in a restaurant in Switzerland I was in in the 1980s. It was either Verbier or Zermatt.
The seat had a motorised plastic sleeve. When you pressed the button, a new length of sleeve was pulled around so you always sat on a clean seat.
Re: Is it for prople who don't wash their hands?
They used to have those at Nice Airport.
Also ones where the whole seat would rotate through a washer/squeegy contraption at the back meaning you always had to sit on a damp bogseat.
Re: Is it for prople who don't wash their hands?
Toilet.
Flush.
Wash.
Leave.
Is it now needing rocket-science ???
Re: Is it for prople who don't wash their hands?
Depends on the type of work you do. A rocket scientist will presumably wash his hands after using the toilet. A motor mechanic may well choose to wash before.
Re: Is it for prople who don't wash their hands?
Back in the mists of time, when I studied chemistry, it was very much more important to wash your hands before, than after, the skin on your hands being somewhat thicker, and less permeable, than skin, *ahem*, elsewhere.
Of course, this is on top of wearing suitable gloves, using a fume hood, etc., and as a student, most of the chemicals commonly used were fairly innocuous, but it is important to teach good habits, to avoid ending up like [1]Karen Wetterhahn .
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Wetterhahn
Re: Is it for prople who don't wash their hands?
Thanks for the linked wiki page - I was not aware of it or the dangerous mercury compounds.
Re: Is it for prople who don't wash their hands?
The truly tragic thing is that Karen Wetterhahn was following the recommended safety procedures for dimethyl mercury at the time, it's just nobody realised at the time just how quickly it diffuses through latex, and skin.
Re: Is it for prople who don't wash their hands?
And a chef who works with hot peppers will definitely wash before, and hopefully, after.
Re: UPS drained *real* quick.
Microbiologist wash their hands before and after.
I did not know about Karen Wetterhahn, what a tragic story.
Re: Thank you for drawing my attention to these devices
Eden:” At Eton we were taught to wash our hands after using the WC”
Churchill: “At Harrow we were taught not to pee on our hands”
Infinite loop...
I used to work at a place where there was a sign over the paper towel dispenser...
"Now wash your hands"
Re: Thank you for drawing my attention to these devices
Supposedly true story: brother of my best friend was an aircraft mechanic in the Canadian Air Force. He was visited at work by a trio of American Top Gun types.
He pops into the washroom for a quick leak, and with hands and arms covered in some kind of aviation gunk, returned to work without cleaning his hands.
The hotshot Yankee pilot shouts "In the American military they teach us to wash our hands after using the toilet."
To which he responds "In the Canadian air force they teach us how to piss without getting it all over our hands '
Re: Thank you for drawing my attention to these devices
This is just where technology and the use of it has gone completely bonkers. Exactly why does a toilet or tap need any form of electronics in it?
Handles and more recently push buttons have proved adequate for years only requiring the occasional washer of valve to fix.
I get the sensors in public toilets, particularly on the urinals but on taps etc, just stupid.
Even the fashion for the valves rather than siphons has created more issues with them leaking more frequently and the leak often unseen as the overflow is into the bowl. I know there was a lot of fuss about how the valves reduced water usage as they could "dual flush" but with the push to reduce the size of the flush it is now so inefficient, the small flush is useless and the big flush often fails on "solids".
Net result more water used instead of having one slightly larger flush.
Re: Thank you for drawing my attention to these devices
Precisely. Why the need for extra 'smart' bits that will go wrong within a few months (just after the warranty expires)
Our facilities team took the opportunity to revamp our toilets during office lockdown closure.
Nice one, they were looking a bit worse for wear but they still functioned.
We now have fancy new toilets with electronic no touch flush senors, but and here's the kicker, after installing them they realised there wasn't any power by the new cisterns so they had to use batteries to power the flush. Normal triple A's!!!
Pathetic! Now every three or four weeks the toilets clog because the sodding batteries have died.
To make it worse everyone is now petrified that it won't flush after they've used the toilet so everyone is flushing once before they use it to check it's still working!! Batteries run out twice as fast.
Re: Thank you for drawing my attention to these devices
Clearly a sh*t job, but I wouldn't poo poo it.
I'll be here all week, thanks.
:)
Re: Thank you for drawing my attention to these devices
Having recently fitted several dirt cheap Wickes loos with dual (4 litre / 6 litre) flushes I can safely say that they seem to work perfectly well. Problems I've seen in the past (even with old-fashioned flushes) tend to be down to dodgy waste plumbing - if the loo isn't quite level (particularly front-to-back) it can cause problems, as can a too-tight bend immediately behind the pan or maybe a pipe which doesn't "fall" properly.
At least we have 4" waste pipes around here, rather than some other countries which seem to try to force everything down to 3" or even smaller.
Our own toilets are flushed using rainwater. We have a 7,500l tank under the garden which takes run-off from the roof, and a 24V pump which (now) runs from solar-charged batteries. Last winter it ran from a mains transformer - I'm interested to see how the system works over the winter this year. So far there has only been one day when the battery charge has risked getting too low to run the pump. I could put bigger batteries in, but they get quite expensive.
No, it'll never pay back - the price of potable water in our part of the UK is under 1p per 6l flush - but we have historically had a lot of problems with getting rid of rainwater around here, so flushing some of it down the loo helps considerably, and gets us a discount from our water bill - the "surface water rebate".
M.
Posting AC because its recent stuff
So we are moving into a nice shiny new office.
We have decided that the designer / architect needs to be shot, or at least fall down some artisanal stairs somewhere.
getting back to the relevancy.. they have installed the touch free loos like you mention.
While you do mention the random flushings when no one is there, you fail to mention the random flushings while you are sitting contemplating why you suddenly have a wet arse.
The blue stripes that change colour to indicate that you have flushed from outside of the door.
We also have a dark décor reminding me of the metal bars I frequented in my youth, but without their charm.
I could go on about the rest of the place but better not :)
Re: Posting AC because its recent stuff
Reminds me of so many airport toilets I've visited in the past (back when flying was still a thing). Sitting there, as still as possible - which let's face it, isn't that easy when you're "doing the business". Eventually, you move half a millimetre and the sensor behind your back decides that you've finished. Immediately, you're subjected to an arse soaking as the flush triggers beneath you.
Re: as the flush triggers beneath you.
... but somehow is still difficult to (re)trigger once you've finished and stood up....
Re: as the flush triggers beneath you.
It all sounds so much like a throwaway footnote from HHGTTG.
Re: Posting AC because its recent stuff
Dorset County Council offices - has state of the art eco - toilets.
Until there was a power cut and the toilets won't flush and so all the staff went home........
Re: Posting AC because its recent stuff
That's to discourage you from spending too long on the khazi. "Every 23 minutes", as described in the article, is by design - that's the absolute limit for a toilet break as specified by EU directives.
Why not just cut the power to the thing?
Or replace it with a £55 toilet from Screwfix?
Almost needed a new keyboard there
I managed to hold back the laugh long enough to swallow the mouthful of coffee... but it was close.
"Ah, good, my groin has lit up. I must have new mail."
I was almost in tears after reading last week's column and that one sentence brought it all back, visons of Dabbsy poking at his illuminated crotch on the metro!
Re: Almost needed a new keyboard there
This one got me too.
Unfortunately, my mid-morning tea did not fare quite as well so I am now typing at an odd angle while it drains out of my keyboard - you can nearly hit CTRL-Y in one keystroke from this angle ;)
(I would say you owe me a new keyboard but have a pint for the entertainment)
Re: Almost needed a new keyboard there
I do my best to not picture Dabbsy poking at his crotch, illuminated or not!
Anthrax's cover version of Kylie Minogue's I Should Be So Lucky...
...featuring Leonard Cohen on the twanging ruler
Can't seem to find it on the tube of you. But I really want to.
Re: Anthrax's cover version of Kylie Minogue's I Should Be So Lucky...
That's what I was going to ask, is this really a thing and how do I not know about it?!
Re: Anthrax's cover version of Kylie Minogue's I Should Be So Lucky...
I googled it but, unfortunately(?), got no relevant results...
Re: Anthrax's cover version of Kylie Minogue's I Should Be So Lucky...
The fact that this doesn't seem to exist makes me sad.
Re: Anthrax's cover version of Kylie Minogue's I Should Be So Lucky...
Try Children of Bodom - Oops I Did It Again, instead.
It could have been worse!
I had a plumber to connect a gas hob. I had to give him wire wool and a heat conducting mat. He then wen to test the gas pressure and announced that we had a gas leak as there was no pressure. He called the gas emergency service who turned up and found no leak. They did find something blocking the hose on the plumber's gas pressure meter though.
Re: It could have been worse!
"They did find something blocking the hose on the plumber's gas pressure meter though."
Of all the laughs from Dabbsy's article, for some reason that caused the biggest! :D
Obviously, a hammer
I wonder how clicking with a hammer would go. It should silence the unwanted dialogs from popping up any time soon thereafter.
Maybe the toilet will also appreciate a little click with a hammer as to place misplaced items back into place.
Re: Obviously, a hammer
A co-worker of mine once told me that however sure I might be that a gentle tap with a hammer was just what was needed to align a toilet properly, don't use that hammer. Porcelain does not handle hammers well. (His family seems to have been hard on toilets: a brother-in-law had accidentally shot a toilet in his parents' house--toilets tolerate bullets even less that hammer taps, I gather.)
Re: Obviously, a hammer
The guy who recently came to fix the air-con on my car discovered the same thing about condensers. It doesn't matter how simple it might seem to just gently tap it into position, rather than wrestling with the corroded brackets on the underside of a car, you're running the risk of turning a profitable job into a loss-making one when you have to replace a £150 part at your own expense.
Spot welder and a forklift
Oh yes. I, too, have had a man fix this or that thing. They inevitably turn up with one or two pieces of equipment, usually an angle grinder or a pair of worn out pliers (or is it a worn out pair of pliers?), proceeding to borrow from me the exact instruments they need to discarge their profession but are in no posession of, whereas I usually am, courtesy of our local Lidl's. Last week I bought there a roll of stainless steel welding wire just to be able to demonstrate to my acquaintances that, indeed, these are interesting times. Said professionals always mumbe something about my gadgets being consumer grade whereas their (non existent) equiment needs to be heavy duty stuff for real professionals, not these cheapo playthings, mind you.
I believe these men and women of profession are the true masters of the state-of-the-art supply chain management, just in time delivery and tools-as-a-service-to-the-serviceman-mfd-as-a-service.
Re: Spot welder and a forklift
We had a massive upgrade done to our hospital phone exchange - IIRC three engineers, down time planned, the works. Twenty minutes or so into the upgrade - "Excuse me AC, can I borrow a screwdriver?"
Great Reference Mr. Brown
Love that movie! Caught by a sneeze or was it a cough?