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JEDI mind tricks: Google said Pentagon contract didn't align with company values. Now it's chasing another defence gig

(2021/11/04)


Google has changed its mind about dealing with the US Department of Defense and is chasing a juicy chunk of the Pentagon's new [1]Joint Warfighting Cloud Capability (JWCC) contract.

Remember when Google's motto was "Don't be Evil"? The Reg speculated about when it'd quietly drop that [2]way back in 2013 , and sure enough, by 2018 it was banished to the very end of the code of conduct. [3]Called it.

There must have been some lingering memories of the slogan when Google dropped out of the bidding for [4]the Pentagon's $10bn JEDI contract , saying that [5]it wouldn't align with the company's values .

[6]Microsoft wins JEDI contract, Amazon complains. Amazon wins NSA contract, watchdog says Microsoft right to moan

[7]Google's 'Be Evil' business transformation is complete: Time for the end game

[8]No return of the JEDI: Supreme Court declines to hear Oracle's challenge to now-dead cloud deal

[9]JEDI contract might be no more, but case should live on, says Oracle: DoD only wants Amazon, Microsoft for new cloud deal

The deal [10]went to Microsoft in 2019 , and then the Pentagon [11]scrapped the contract earlier this year amid legal challenges from rivals scorned.

Within a month, the US National Security Agency [12]signed a different $10bn deal with Amazon's AWS instead , and as we reported earlier this week, [13]Microsoft complained about that .

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One of the tougher bits of gristle in the JEDI deal was that the Pentagon wanted a single supplier, which [15]Oracle felt wasn't fair , among others muscling in for a bite.

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The JWCC is obviously something totally different as this three-year deal will be a [17]multi-vendor contract , although with only two vendors deemed "capable of meeting the department's requirements," (Microsoft and AWS, as per the [18]DoD ), Google will have its work cut out for it. ®

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[1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/google-to-pursue-pentagon-cloud-computing-contract-11635982488

[2] https://www.theregister.com/2013/10/24/google_banner_ads/

[3] https://www.theregister.com/2019/09/27/google_birthday/

[4] https://www.theregister.com/2018/07/27/this_is_the_contract_youve_been_looking_for_pentagon_releases_jedi_bids/

[5] https://www.theregister.com/2018/10/09/google_jedi_drops_out/

[6] https://www.theregister.com/2021/11/01/gao_upholds_microsoft_aws_complaint/

[7] https://www.theregister.com/2021/11/01/google_opinion_column/

[8] https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/04/supreme_oracle_jedi/

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2021/09/21/oracle_jwcc_jedi/

[10] https://www.theregister.com/2019/10/26/microsoft_wins_jedi_deal/

[11] https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/06/jedi_contract_canceled_pentagon/

[12] https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/11/nsa_aws_ms/

[13] https://www.theregister.com/2021/11/01/gao_upholds_microsoft_aws_complaint/

[14] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_offprem/paasiaas&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2YYlXzEawgWR4RAGzAtLuvAAAAAk&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0

[15] https://www.theregister.com/2019/07/01/oracle_jedi_case_filing/

[16] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_offprem/paasiaas&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44YYlXzEawgWR4RAGzAtLuvAAAAAk&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[17] https://www.ccpo.mil/Products/JWCC/

[18] https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/2682992/future-of-the-joint-enterprise-defense-infrastructure-cloud-contract/

[19] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



Don't be evil

cyberdemon

So old-hat for megacorps these days...

Re: Don't be evil

Yet Another Anonymous coward

But less old-hat for their non MAGA hatted employees.

Opinion among the young devs we hire is that Amazon is toxic and Google is the more acceptable place to work. Only those who actually worship Satan, rather than merely being members of the temple, woudl work for Oracle

A Non e-mouse

Money talks.

Demonstration of a Negotiable morality

alain williams

Many of us are prone to that eg: [1]there are things that we all can do to help with climate change we might say that some are good, but how many do we really do ? I am not better than most.

Having said that: Google is evil.

[1] https://www.positive.news/environment/what-can-i-do-about-climate-change-how-to-lower-your-carbon-footprint/

Registered Competition for Google to Mine and Mind/AIMentor and Monitor .....

amanfromMars 1

...... or Try to Avoid Upsetting or Engaging?

Crikey, .... there is a Veritable Embarrassment of Untold Novel Riches for Sharing in this following Virtual Confrontation/Surreal Entanglement.

amanfromMars [2111041549] ...... asks for more raw intelligence information on [1]https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/feds-arrest-primary-steele-dossier-source-durham-investigation-heats

saying he had been tasked to gather “raw intelligence”

Please more fully explain the exact nature of such gatherings. Are they live observations or still virtual inventions born and borne personally and privately of malice or benefit/progress or stagnation and perverse corrupt petrification aiding and abetting the furthering and fathering of constant terrorisation‽ .

Such a clarification will be more than just universally helpful and most illuminating/almightily enlightening, for it is not possible to lead anywhere farther/deeper/higher without acknowledging and accepting the answers supplied, for of course there can be many, with some more or less priceless beyond common worth, such be the AWEsome Effect with Invaluable Offerings from Novel Free State Suppliers ....... Core Ore Source Providers ....... Supply Drivering Enriched MetaDataBase Product Mining and Refining for/with/to a Redefined Output/Outlet/Input Socket ........ COSMIC Store.

To some tamed and proclaiming for many, is Nirvana there one of its Celestially Named Products.

I Kid U Not :-)

You have to admit that does sort of have the JEDI Product somewhat overshadowed and worthy only of redundant activities safeguarding its superseded programs/raison d’être.

[1] https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/feds-arrest-primary-steele-dossier-source-durham-investigation-heats

Re: Registered Competition for Google to Mine and Mind/AIMentor and Monitor .....

amanfromMars 1

And all of that is comparative and supportive of this mirror program/project too........ [1]https://www.rt.com/usa/539314-google-pentagon-contract-cloud/

[1] https://www.rt.com/usa/539314-google-pentagon-contract-cloud/

It's a $hame really...

Inkey

I wounder if that says more about us as a society

How easily it became ok to be evil if it put food on a table, paid the bills, made the bottom line look good,

I wonder if google could just get off the hamster wheel and go "nah we jist wana do search and utube thanks"

imho i think they gave us alot Andriod, floating ballon drone thing, go, gearth, robot dogs with machie guns, street view, utube, amongest many others not my default browser or search obvs

Alphabet who knows ... a foss mobile os, nobbled to hoover and monetise, sell as much of you as possible, robot dogs with machine guns,

and what might they know about us as a society ...

And how is that being used.

Re: It's a $hame really...

amanfromMars 1

...... but for Puny and Paltry Humans and Wannabe Caesars alike, all Part and Parcel of the Richest of Tapestries and Greatest of the Great Games with IT and AI and Mass Multi Media Moguls able and/or enabled to Lead Future Productive and Destructive Direction via the Scripted Presentation of Planned Former Events Employing and Engaging in Operational Missions with Information and Intelligence Gleaned/Scraped/Stolen from Compromised Sublime Internetional Network Communication Carriers and Suppliers ....... and Core Source Ore Miners ...... and Advanced IntelAIgently Designed Proprietary Intellectual Property Providers.

Fortunately though does the $hame not Prevent nor Hinder and Disrupt nor Disturb Full Hard Cored to XSSXXXX Alien Interventions into such Matters of Universal Significance and Global Disinformation Interest.

And now y’all know what to fully expect. Capiche, Amigos/Amigas/Ladies and Gentlemen/Man and the Dog on the Street?

It could be worse!

Pete 2

> Pentagon contract didn't align with company values.

Next time they might try to make the Pentagon align with Google values.

Re: It could be worse!

amanfromMars 1

That post headline should surely have been framed as a question, Pete 2, unless of course, you particularly wanted to imply Google values are more evil than those of the Pentagon and Departments of Defense, which are nearly always cloaked in the appearance of being offensive and invasive ..... and that renders the exclamatory statement still somewhat of a stretch too far for many to imagine it being worse rather than better.

Do you think Google [any effective objective browser and search engine manufacturer] realise they wield more pervasive and subversive powerful than the Pentagon?

Would they find that problematical or most encouraging and extremely rewarding and exciting .... such Google Power and Energy?

Which is MOST evil?

Tree

Compare USA to Chinese Communist Party or Gurgle to faceBUTT. Which is the most evil?

I think the talking dinosaur is much more polite than Greta Thurnburn Blah, Blah,Blecch.

Global warming by coal or petrol is superior to nuclear war.

Fission, however, is a great way to generate electricity.

Burning wood is a sustainable way to heat my house. Trees will grow back if you plant them.

There is much blarney in the world. We should learn to reject most of it as false,

Jonjonz

We all know Google only values 2 things:

* Acquiring data about individuals

* Using that data to make money, buy selling it, or selling advertising

Clearly the JEDI program did not offer them enough data on people (military and defense dept employees and thier families).

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or you can lose or it can rain.
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