Zoom-o-cracy: Wales MP misses vote, allowing COVID-passport rule change, blames the IT dept
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- News link: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2021/10/08/zoom_welsh_covid_passport_vote_parliament/
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A member by the name of Gareth Davies issued a furious statement
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on Twitter, appearing to blame the institution's IT department for stripping him of his suffrage on an issue of national importance.In Davies' absence, the controversial vote was carried 28-27 in favour of the Health Protection (Coronavirus Restrictions) Regulations. Under the rules, all over-18s would need a COVID Pass to enter nightclubs, indoor, non-seated events for more than 500 people, such as concerts or conventions, outdoor non-seated events for more than 4,000 people and any setting or event with more than 10,000 people in attendance. A negative lateral flow test (aka rapid antigen test) result within the last 48 hours would also count.
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It might have been so different had member Davies not had problems voting, which earlier reports suggested were down to a Zoom link.
But later the [6]member of Senedd (MS) took to Twitter to vent his anger, seemingly attributing the cause to a more complex technical system.
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"I am deeply upset, frustrated and angry at last night's events and my inability to cast a vote against vaccine passports. Yesterday, IT challenges meant that I was unable to access the voting system," the MS said.
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Davies, who was attending the Conservative Party conference in Manchester at the time of the vote, went on to say he would be taking up the issue with the IT department of the democratic institution.
"Concerns have been raised with the Senedd's ICT department and I will be making a personal statement in the Senedd this afternoon," the member went on.
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Any professional IT department might be used to a little bit of flak from the users, but the thought of "concerns" being raised by a member like Davies must have had them quaking in their boots, throwing monitors out of windows and chomping through ethernet cables while screaming, "Oh no, not concerns."
And what of this voting system to which the Senedd member alludes?
In a [11]video recording of the proceedings , an MS can be heard saying, "We still have a member who is desperately trying to get into Zoom."
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In a tone reminiscent of [13]Jackie Weaver , the council chair made famous by the internet through her ardent chairing of Zoomocrasy, Llywydd (Speaker) of the Senedd, Elin Jones told the Conservative Senedd Member for Clwyd West: "Darren Millar, we are holding the vote, and we have made every opportunity possible for that member to get in, including sharing my personal phone…"
So, regardless of the state of the parliament's voting system, it would appear member Davies had the opportunity of using a communications network in uses for more than 100 years.
Davies had promised to make a statement on the issue in the parliament yesterday afternoon, but it was not allowed, [14]according to reports .
Jones refused, saying that the statement already shared with the press and on Twitter was sufficient. At the same time, she reminded all members of the Senedd to "ensure they are present early enough and in time to vote," especially while voting from a new venue for the first time. ®
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[2] https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/17/zoom_incompatible_with_gdpr_hamburg_warning/
[3] https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/01/geeks_guide_newport_transporter_bridge/
[4] https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/26/bumble_location_leak/
[5] https://www.theregister.com/2020/05/15/armed_police_knight_wales/
[6] https://twitter.com/GarethDaviesVoC/status/1445768858338349067
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[11] http://www.senedd.tv/Meeting/Clip/4af76c1b-0566-421e-a33c-f26bc4501a60?inPoint=04:52:30&outPoint=04:53:10
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[13] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB3P_0GAi0I
[14] https://nation.cymru/news/llywydd-refuses-to-allow-statement-by-tory-ms-who-failed-to-vote-on-covid-passes/
[15] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/
Welsh, so probably sheep balls. And as the article mentioned, he could have just phoned his vote in. The guy sounds like an idiot.
I agree
Perhaps he was hankering after an El Reg moment though.
It is literally impossible for a [1]33-year-old to fuck up a Zoom call and a phone call. Even if they're in the Tory party. Isn't it?
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gareth_Davies_(Welsh_politician)
Er, you might have to readjust your expectations of our non-technical brethren. Remember someone recently gave a deposition to a judge while appearing as a kitten on zoom.
If he was at the Conservative Conference...
Was he trying to use the conference centre's wifi? I'd expect a political conference to be awash with journalists, bloggers and party activists constantly hammering the bandwidth. Perhaps a tactical retreat back to his hotel or even a coffee shop would have solved his problem?
Re: If he was at the Conservative Conference...
Or 4G?
Re: If he was at the Conservative Conference...
Why was he the only Conservative member from Wales at the conference?
And, if not, why didn't any of his Welsh compatriots have a problem?
Remote voting
Surely remote voting is there to deal with medical or pandemics absents. Not to enable them to bugger off on a party political jolly?
Anyway, couldn't they just use the alternative phone dial-in number?
Controversial why?
It's bizarre that the vote is even that close.
Was he really going to vote to let potentially infectious people, infect large crowds with their plague? Gareth [plague] Davies: "Yeh people carrying a deadly infectious disease, should be *allowed* to secretly visit large crowds to spread it! That's a *good* thing. I read so on Facebook/Murdoch/Daily Telegraph".
He personally would be liable for any deaths, if his vote was the decider vote that killed them. I get that he doesn't care about that, because he's a selfish assshat, that not fit to lead, but perhaps I can make another argument here to convince his fellow tories they should dump him....
People will go to concerts and parties, safe in the knowledge that everyone there has been vaxination or does not have the disease. That's good for the economy. If 'plague spreader Davies' Tory MS for Vale of Clwyd, had his way, they could not be that sure and would not take that risk. It would have a negative effect on the economy.
There, I said it, the N word for Tories, his choice would have had a NEGATIVE effect on the economy.
So sack him because he would have had a negative effect on the economy, and not because he wanted to intentionally kill a lot of his fellow Welsh with a moronic decision showing lack of reason, competence or empathy, because someone told him it's his political identity.
Re: Controversial why?
You only need to show a vaccine to get into events with more than 500 people?
Is this a plan to depopulate Wales? What are they planning to use it for afterwards?
Here we have 90% vaccinated and you need to show a passport to sit outside at a bar (max 4 people)
Thank fsck I'm now an immigrant expat
Can't fix
All the technology in the world can't fix
Hands up for anyone who thinks he contacted IT before he decided to not be present at an important vote to test alternative connection capability.
Anyone? Bueller?
Re: Can't fix
The same type that will grill you over business continuity while having no plans of their own.
Re: Can't fix
Ah, that wonderful 'But in your DR scenario I am dead so how do you propose to get my tasks done?' moment
The cynic in me suggested he knew the result in advance (most votes are reasonably well known how they'll turn out) didn't want it to fail but didn't want to be seen to be not wanting it to fail. So invents IT problems, claims he would have voted against, looks good even though it passes.
I've been around for too long.
Odd. I have had all sorts of problems trying to get in with WebEx before, and slightly less with Teams (once you realise that "web support" to MS only means Chrome and their Chrome-clone Edge), but never with Zoom.
For all of the piss-poor security and questionable Chinese background, Zoom seems just to work and not suck donkey balls at every opportunity. I guess that is why it became the pandemic's remote meeting method of choice.
Perhaps the honourable member was the one sucking donkey balls?