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If anyone can explain why Jupiter's Great Red Spot is spinning faster and shrinking, please speak up

(2021/09/28)


Video The winds whirring round the outer edge of Jupiter’s Great Red Spot have grown more powerful over the past decade, reaching speeds of at least 400 miles per hour, the Hubble Space Telescope has shown.

Astronomers have spent more than 150 years observing Jupiter’s iconic feature, a gigantic oval-shaped splodge measuring 10,000-plus miles across, which is wider than Earth. Flybys by NASA’s spacecraft Voyager and Juno revealed the Great Red Spot was made up of swirling red clouds driven by a ferocious storm.

The storm is still raging today, and scientists aren’t quite sure how. In fact, the outer winds have increased eight per cent in speed while the inner winds are slowing, according to measurements taken by Hubble from 2009 to 2020. The clouds are stirred into a frenzy, rotating counterclockwise around the center of the vortex.

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“When I initially saw the results, I asked 'Does this make sense?' No one has ever seen this before," [2]said Michael Wong, a researcher working at the University of California, Berkeley.

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Wong tracked up to hundreds of thousands of wind vectors and analyzed their changes over a decade using software to figure out the increase in wind speed at the rim of the Great Red Spot. It turns out the wind is at least 400 miles per hour (180 metres per second).

“What does the increase in speed mean? "That's hard to diagnose, since Hubble can't see the bottom of the storm very well. Anything below the cloud tops is invisible in the data," Wong said. "But it's an interesting piece of data that can help us understand what's fueling the Great Red Spot and how it's maintaining energy."

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The gigantic oval vortex has changed since it was observed in the 1800s. Not only has the Great Red Spot started rotating faster, it has also decreased [9]in size , and is becoming more circular over time.

“I do think these two changes are related, but it is difficult to prove or explain that,” Wong told The Register . “At this point, we are just publishing our new finding, and perhaps future simulation work will help us understand the changes.”

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What’s powering these changes, however, remains a mystery as NASA’s latest video shows.

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It’s difficult to study the Great Red Spot. There isn’t much data describing what’s going on inside the storm beyond the surface, and changes can often take a long time to notice.

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For example, the changes in Hubble’s measurements of the Great Red Spot are relatively small; the wind speed changed at a rate of just 1.6 miles per hour per Earth year. The smallest detail astronomers can see on the Great Red Spot is 105 miles across, about twice the length of the US state of Rhode Island.

"We're talking about such a small change that if you didn’t have eleven years of Hubble data," said Amy Simon, a planetary scientist working at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center.

“Since we don't have a storm chaser plane at Jupiter, we can't continuously measure the winds on site. Hubble is the only telescope that has the kind of temporal coverage and spatial resolution that can capture Jupiter’s winds in this detail."

Wong believes that studying the physics behind the Great Red Spot will help astronomers understand storms on other planets like Neptune and Saturn.

“Ultimately all these dynamical features are powered by heat: solar energy absorbed in the atmosphere heating it, and internal heat from deeper inside the planet. so we are studying the great red spot and other features to understand how the atmosphere is driven by this heat release,” he concluded. ®

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Reg Units

Steve K

With this being a UK site, comparisons to the size of Rhode Island are not really illustrative......

75 miles is 5491.5163 brontosaurus

Re: Reg Units

jake

"With this being a UK site"

ElReg doesn't seem to think so ... [1]"The Register is a leading and trusted global online enterprise technology news publication" is the way they put it.

[1] https://www.theregister.com/Profile/about_the_register/

Re: Reg Units

Uncle Slacky

Never heard of "Global Britain"?

If anyone can explain why Jupiter's Great Red Spot is spinning faster and shrinking, please speak up

Anonymous Coward

"If anyone can explain why Jupiter's Great Red Spot is spinning faster and shrinking, please speak up"

The bath water is almost all drained out?

Re: The bath water is almost all drained out?

Anonymous Coward

Either that, or the fuelling process of the plasma cannon is now nearly complete ...

Re: The bath water is almost all drained out?

Dan 55

Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational planet.

Re: Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational planet.

Anonymous Coward

"That's no gas giant ...."

/gulp

Astronomical chaos

Anonymous Coward

Might just be a butterfly in Brazil flapping it's wings...

It's caused by maths...

Aristotles slow and dimwitted horse

1 : 4 : 9.

Just sayin'...

Re: It's caused by maths...

Anonymous Coward

its round not square

Re: its round not square

Anonymous Coward

\pi r^2

3D not 2D

Anonymous Coward

It's a twister.

It's a hurricane?

Version 1.0

Jupiter's a lot bigger than the Earth, the hurricanes are bigger and last longer maybe? Perhaps it will eventually disappear and another one will form again in a few tens of thousands of years?

Re: It's a hurricane?

Def

Yes. For a hurricane to form you need a source of heat heating the area of low pressure air from below.

On Earth that heat comes from the oceans, so as hurricanes reach land their source of heat disappears and they weaken and dissipate.

Because Jupiter doesn't have a solid surface, it's most probably heat from the liquid core that is fuelling this storm and helping to sustain it almost indefinitely.

Green energy

Steve Kerr

All we need to do is install a wind farm.

Problem solved.

Not sure which problem but it's solved.

kudos though for this, very interesting read - didn't realise that there had been astromonical views of this in the 1880's.

Re: Green energy

Draco

The first "official" observation of the Great Red Spot was in 1831 by Samuel Heinrich Schwabe.

However, there were earlier reports of spots on Jupiter. Robert Hooke observed on 9 May 1664 " a small spot in the biggest of the 3 obscurer Belts of Jupiter ".

This was later, apparently confirmed by Giovanni Cassini: " Besides that Transient Shadow last mentioned, there hath been observed, by Mr. Hook first ... and since by M. Cassini, a permanent Spot in the Disque of Jupiter. "

Both are recorded in the Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London 1666. Pages 3 and 143, respectively.

https://archive.org/details/Philosophicaltr1Roya/page/2/mode/2up

[The quotes given have been "modernized" by replacing use of the 'long s' with the more commonly used 's' we are familiar with. https://faqbite.com/why/why-did-people-write-f-instead-of-s-in-old-books/]

You can also see what looks like the Red Spot in Donato Creti's 1711 Astronomical canvas featuring Jupiter. He painted a series of 8 canvases - each featuring one of the the 5 known planets, the sun, the moon, and a comet in the background - using the best available knowledge of these bodies at the time.

http://images.zeno.org/Kunstwerke/I/big/77j538a.jpg

All these worlds are yours.

Jonathon Green

Except Europa. Attempt no landing there.

Storm = natural disaster?

Friendly Neighbourhood Coder Dan

I heard that there are ancient books explaining that storms and the likes are caused by stroppy invisible entities when they get offended for nonsensical reasons...

If that is the case, then the parties in that region of Jupiter must really be something else...

A sinking ship gathers no moss.
-- Donald Kaul